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    Default Are These Tax Deductible?

    1. Pole Dance Classes
    2. Gym Memberships
    3. Waxings
    4. Hair extensions, colorings, cuts, ect
    5. House fees

    I have been dancing for six months now and it is tax season, yaaay. >_< I am going to pay my taxes and have kept all my receipts to clothes, waxings, ect but I am wonder if they are all really tax deductible? I also live in Louisiana if that is helpful, I know things are different state to state.

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    Default Re: Are These Tax Deductible?

    Based on my own accountant's interpretation of IRS regs

    1. debatable due to the 'housewife test' ... housewives take pole dance classes with no business reason for doing so
    2. technically no due to the 'housewife test' ... housewives buy gym memberships with no business reason for doing so
    3. technically no due to the 'housewife test' ... housewives get waxed with no business reason for doing so
    4. technically no due to a recent IRS ruling applying to 'celebrities' which denied deductions for maintaining 'personal' appearance even though it was a necessity for them to obtain work
    5. definitely yes for independent contractor dancers ... definitely no for 'employee' dancers.

    However, there is another provision of IRS regs which states that anything that is 'ordinary and necessary' for conducting normal business is legitimately deductible.

    In the end, it will come down to an auditor's / tax court's decision. Obviously, taking these sort of deductions increases the chance of being audited significantly.

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    Default Re: Are These Tax Deductible?

    1. Pole dance classes - Only deductible if you are engaged in stripping as a trade or business. Not deductible the first tax year you strip. Only in subsequent tax years and only if a pole dance class helps you improve your earnings. Also, you have to put the right occupation code on your Schedule C and you report income in excess of your expenses on Schedule C.

    2. Gym memberships - No.

    3. Waxings - Only deductible if you are engaged in stripping as a trade or business. Also, you have to put the right occupation code on your Schedule C and you report income in excess of your expenses on Schedule C.

    4. Hair extensions, colorings, cuts, etc. - No. But, wigs might be deductible as "costumes." Again, the right occupation code on your Schedule C and you report income in excess of your expenses on Schedule C.

    5. House fees - Yes for independent contractors. There is one case that can be argued even for employee dancers. But, to get there, you'll be in tax court and it helps to be in the 9th Circuit.

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    Default Re: Are These Tax Deductible?

    This may not aply to u but if you dont have $5800 worth of deduction then u cant even get deductions on anything. There was a thread on this in CC
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...=tax+deduction

    Like Melonie said the housewives test if a woman with a vanilla job would buy it then u cant get it as a right off i dont know about what Zofia said because im not a stripper but do ur research or talk to an accuntant dont go to a brand like H & R block theyre the Mc Donlads of taxes
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    Default Re: Are These Tax Deductible?

    ^^^ actually, that's only the case for 'employee' dancers who receive regular paychecks from their club. For dancers operating their own 'independent contractor' business, the individual limits on what are actually business expense tax deductions do not apply.

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    o thats good im still fairly new but i am soooooooooo savings receipts on EVERYTHING i spend on camming this year for next year
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    very true about it being up to the auditor. Went through it and yes put down the occupation unless you may think it will harm your future if you plan on doing something else. I was LUCKY and had a understandable auditor, she went in and re did everything. My red flag was occupation and the deductions. She did not know what a cam girl was so I said I'm basically a online stripper, sent her to my profiles and she actually pointed out other things I could deduct but didn't have a receipt for. Keep those receipts.

    If ever audited... play nice and they will play nice as well. They are so use to ppl bitching and abusing them. It took her a year to finish my audit so I was super nice and felt bad for her bc that was a ton of paperwork.

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    If ever audited... play nice and they will play nice as well. They are so use to ppl bitching and abusing them. It took her a year to finish my audit so I was super nice and felt bad for her bc that was a ton of paperwork.
    Auditors can be even more 'co-operative' if they are young and male LOL !!!

    But this is a serious point ... i.e. that 50% of the 'battle' during an IRS audit is 'perception' on the part of the auditor. Since a significant portion of the numbers involved are the result of self-generated financial records without 3rd party documentation ( i.e. 1099's ) to back up those numbers, it makes a HUGE ... and I mean HUGGGGGGE ... difference whether the auditor perceives that you have been honest and accurate and professional in keeping your financial records, versus potentially 'pulling numbers out of thin air' when it's time to file an annual tax return. So things like maintaining a separate business only bank account, maintaining a double-entry business balance sheet with daily / weekly entries, filing and paying estimated taxes quarterly etc. all contribute to a positive 'perception'.

    And in general, auditors are aware that dancers and camgirls both have potential additional income streams that bypass the 1099's reported by clubs / webcam hosts. If you wind up establishing a very poor 'perception' with an auditor, it's very possible for the auditor to disagree with your unverifiable self-generated number for total taxable income !!! And if the auditor estimates that you earned $100k but you only have $50k worth of 1099's, there is no way for you to absolutely prove that you did NOT receive an additional $50k via direct club customer tips / payments, via online wallets or debit cards, etc. that the auditor might claim you did.

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    Default Re: Are These Tax Deductible?

    sorry to necro this but i thought this question kinda fell along the same lines as this thread - i wanted to ask what it really means to write something off. Basically u take the full amount of the item that u bought out of ur total moneys your supposed to pay the IRS or a % of it - Im clueless . Thank u again for answering my last thread Melonie i went thru all my payments ive gotten on MFC and SM since jan made a ledger and made a list of the few things I've gotten that I plan on writing off
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    Default Re: Are These Tax Deductible?

    ^^^ where a business operator is concerned ( as opposed to an employee ), IRS code allows 'business expense' tax deductions which directly subtract from the amount of 'gross receipts' which the business operation took in. Where basic business expense tax deductions are concerned, unlike employee deductions there usually aren't any percentage thresholds or other limitations to the amount of the deduction allowed. Thus every dollar's worth of tax deductible business expense directly reduces the 'net business profits' upon which taxes are then calculated by a dollar.

    If you look at the line items on Schedule C this should be fairly clear ... bring up and scroll down to Part 2 Expenses
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    Thank you - StripperWeb would be lost without you when it comes to taxes n stuff we're glad ur here never leave us ok lol
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    Was that link bookmarked in ur browser Melonie- its broken now what was the doc called ill find it myslef on the website u iz busy lady i know =^y^=
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    ^^^ edited to a non-IRS link that actually works !

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    Thax : )
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    Default Re: Are These Tax Deductible?

    OK now that you can see the line items of Schedule C Part 2 ...

    - house fees can be entered under 'commissions and fees'
    - tax prep an be entered under 'legal and professional services'
    - a computer for dedicated webcam use can be entered under 'other business property'
    - dancer's license fees can be entered under 'taxes and licenses'
    - ISP high speed internet for dedicated webcam use can be entered under 'utilities'

    Other specific business expense tax deductions can be individually listed in Part 5, with the total then entered under 'other expenses'
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    i wish i could right off my cox bill but i do use it for other stuff too i do work from home after all : P
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    ^^^ assuming you're referring to high speed cable modem ISP via Cox Communications, you can probably get away with taking a business expense tax deduction for 50% of the itemized cable modem service cost.

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    i was : P how would that work just save the bills ?
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    ^^^ yes save the bills, and enter the 12 month total of cable modem line item charges * 50% under 'utilities' when you file your Schedule C and tax return next spring.

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    I'm late to this discussion, but have the perspective that tax code is complex and like the law can be interpreted many ways. I spoke to one tax preparer who made the analogy of 'painting the front door of a business' - it might not have been absolutely necessary from a maintenance perspective, but helped make a good impression / image. The same argument could be made for beauty or clothing items, again within reason, and with documentation and good logic to back it up. Even better is if the dancer had income records to show she made more money after getting a new outfit, tan, whatever.

    Regarding the internet bill, I would consider taking a % based upon the amount of business vs. pleasure usage, same as a company car that is driven home and might be used on weekends...

    You just need to evaluate the level of risk you are willing to take and how much record keeping you're willing to do to document and justify.

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    at this point the convo was over imdone picking melonies brain (for now hee hee ) but u do make good points too so thank you. =^y^=
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    Default Re: Are These Tax Deductible?

    Thank you for posting this question. I was curious about these too.

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    The same argument could be made for beauty or clothing items, again within reason, and with documentation and good logic to back it up. Even better is if the dancer had income records to show she made more money after getting a new outfit, tan, whatever.
    I feel the need to point out that the IRS has recently released a ruling in regard to the NON deductibility of beauty and other personal appearance related items for 'celebrities'. That new ruling states that, even though personal appearance is a necessary concern, and even though maintaining / improving personal appearance affects 'celebrity' income, such expenditures are now ruled to be for personal benefit, and as such, not deductible as legitimate business expenses. And the same IRS logic will undoubtedly apply to non-'celebrities' as well i.e. dancers and camgirls. Thus future attempts to take business expense tax deductions for things like dep't store makeup, tanning, hair and nails etc. are now virtually guaranteed to run afoul of the IRS.

    In regard to work related clothing deductions, there is IRS precedent for this as well. If the clothing is something that would be purchased by 'housewives' who have absolutely no business reason for doing so, then that clothing cannot be deducted as a business expense. Thus bikinis, lingerie, Vic's Secret stuff, etc. are NOT tax deductible on the basis that 'housewives' also buy and wear them.

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    Default Re: Are These Tax Deductible?

    Melonie, you said "tax prep" is deductible. So the amount that I'm paying my CPA to help me file my taxes for 2013 can be deducted ?

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    Default Re: Are These Tax Deductible?

    ^^^ yes, accountant's fees can be deducted under 'professional services' on your Schedule C

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