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    Hi, I'm new here. I live in the suburbs of Los Angeles and I recently re-discovered strip clubs after a long absence.

    Back in the 90s, I went to a few clubs like Deja Vu and they were extremely tame compared to the way things are now. Basically there was more of an emphasis on girls dancing on stage and putting on a show before they started hustling for dances. When I did get a dance, I was always told to put my hands on the chair and not touch anything. The most I would get is a nipple brushed across my face.

    Fast forward 15 years and I rediscovered the strip club scene, and what do I find?

    These places have basically turned into brothels.

    I won't name clubs, but I went to some in the City of Industry and surrounding areas (pomona, north oc, etc), and damn things have changed. There is little emphasis on stage dancing and most of the girls seem to just sit around.

    The best/worst part (depending on your point of view) is that the girls basically proposition me for services. I decided at one point to get a 2-for-1 couch dance with a girl and as soon as she got on my lap she grabbed my hand and put it on her ass. Then she grabbed my other hand and put it on her tits, so I basically spent the 2 songs groping her and fingering her.

    Then I decided to go with a multi-song VIP dance with a different girl and as soon as we got into the private booth she said "So all you want is a dance baby?"

    I said, "What else is there?" and she laid down a menu of services that I could purchase. Unreal. It was awesome I guess, but I just chose the dance.

    Later, a 3rd girl approached me while I was sitting alone. She kneeled down next to my chair and put her hand on my junk. I started getting hard and she unzipped my pants and put her hand inside my pants and started stroking me. She then offered me a blowjob if I purchased a VIP dance and gave her a specific tip. I declined.

    Before I left, I was chatting up a really cool and cute young girl who wasn't propositioning me at all. Not even doing a hustle. I decided to grab a quick 3-song dance in the VIP before I left, and again she hit me up with "So all you want is a dance baby?" I said "Why don't we just fuck?" and she told me it would be $100 and immediately pulled out a condom. I bent her over and pounded her for 3 songs and timed my nut perfectly right as the 3rd song was ending.

    I've had similar experiences at a few different fully-nude clubs in this area. I'm guessing it's normal now? Unfortunately, the looks of the girls aren't as great as they used to be. Sometimes I just want to watch a beautiful woman dance on stage while I throw dollar bills at her, instead of being hustled for blowjobs by skanks.

    Sorry if my language is too harsh, I'm new here. But it's a genuine question.....

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    Default Re: Are legitimate clean dancers being chased out of L.A.?

    "I said "Why don't we just fuck?" and she told me it would be $100 and immediately pulled out a condom. I bent her over and pounded her for 3 songs and timed my nut perfectly right as the 3rd song was ending."
    and then you have the balls and hypocrisy to call them skanks and say its a brothel and the good ole days are gone. disgusting, really..


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    So you were so "disgusted" with what strip clubs have become that you decided to perpetuate the cycle and engage in sexual activity inside the club?
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    Default Re: Are legitimate clean dancers being chased out of L.A.?

    coi is dirty. cleaner places are near the airport or noho (my personal fav). but at all clubs, be articulate about what you want. some girls just know theyll get more $$ if they are dirty upfront (aka grab your dick during a simple dance or while talking on the floor to get you to spend more, and then once theyve gotten $$ theyll do a standard dance). just tell girls you dont like a certain type of contact.

    that being said, it seems like you do want extras, so please just stay in coi and fuck the pimped out crackheads for cheap and stay out of the nicer clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    "I said "Why don't we just fuck?" and she told me it would be $100 and immediately pulled out a condom. I bent her over and pounded her for 3 songs and timed my nut perfectly right as the 3rd song was ending."
    and then you have the balls and hypocrisy to call them skanks and say its a brothel and the good ole days are gone. disgusting, really..

    Well at that point she was the 4th girl I had interacted with (in terms of buying something) and since all of them had propositioned me for sexual services I just decided to go for it.

    I'm not being judgmental. Just observing what is happening and going with the flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LonerWithABoner View Post
    Well at that point she was the 4th girl I had interacted with (in terms of buying something) and since all of them had propositioned me for sexual services I just decided to go for it.

    I'm not being judgmental. Just observing what is happening and going with the flow.
    ok, well not that im defending these girls actions, but you are just as guilty in accepting them or "going with the flow". you have no right to call them whores or skanks when you yourself are a "jon" and just as guilty

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    Quote Originally Posted by FasaCorp View Post
    So you were so "disgusted" with what strip clubs have become that you decided to perpetuate the cycle and engage in sexual activity inside the club?
    I never said I was "disgusted". But after having multiple girls offer to have sex with me, I couldn't help myself.

    In some ways I enjoy the new paradigm. I mean, at least now I know I can easily go get laid whenever I want. But at the same time, it would be fun to see the truly beautiful girls come back so I can enjoy their stage dances and throw dollar bills at them. You know, the old-fashioned way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FasaCorp View Post
    So you were so "disgusted" with what strip clubs have become that you decided to perpetuate the cycle and engage in sexual activity inside the club?
    I never said I was "disgusted". But after having multiple girls offer to have sex with me, I couldn't help myself.

    In some ways I enjoy the new paradigm. I mean, at least now I know I can easily go get laid whenever I want. But at the same time, it would be fun to see the truly beautiful girls come back so I can enjoy their stage dances and throw dollar bills at them. You know, the old-fashioned way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LonerWithABoner View Post
    I'm not being judgmental. Just observing what is happening and going with the flow.
    Oh, you went with the flow alright. And got away with it quite cheaply I might add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    ok, well not that im defending these girls actions, but you are just as guilty in accepting them or "going with the flow". you have no right to call them whores or skanks when you yourself are a "jon" and just as guilty
    Yes, that's true. I'm a john and a mark, and I didn't mean to be insulting with the world skank.

    I apologize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    ok, well not that im defending these girls actions, but you are just as guilty in accepting them or "going with the flow". you have no right to call them whores or skanks when you yourself are a "jon" and just as guilty
    Yes, that's true. I'm a john and a mark, and I didn't mean to be insulting with the world skank.

    I apologize.

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    Oh, you went with the flow alright. And got away with it quite cheaply I might add.

    Well, this particular visit stands out in my mind because it was my re-introduction to the way strip clubs are working now.

    I paid:
    $10 entrance
    $10 mandatory non-alcoholic drink
    $20 2-for-1 dance with girl #1
    $60 VIP dance (3 songs) with girl #2
    $60 VIP dance (3 songs) with girl #3 (the one who was stroking me, I failed to mention I also got a dance with her)
    $60 VIP dance (3 songs) with girl #4 (the one I fucked)
    $100 tip for extra

    Total: $320 for essentially a 10-minute quickie and some foreplay. That's actually pretty damn expensive.

    At minimum it will cost me $200 to get a quickie like this (considering all expenses), if I just grab the first girl who propositions me and never get any other dances.

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    Sorry, double post for some reason.

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    That is very cheap, seeing as how you spread a little over a lot. If you paid the girl you had sex with the full 320, it would have been much better. But that's beside the point. Please refrain from engaging in sexual activity in clubs. You're only making the situation worse.
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    Default Re: Are legitimate clean dancers being chased out of L.A.?

    And then?

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    Actually, it's $320 for 27 (9 songs x 3 minutes each) minutes of groping and sex with a total of three different hot young dancers. Seems fair, particularly considering top end escorts in LA are now at $1k and up for an hour of the same.

    I have a very good idea who you nailed--is she named after an adult beverage?

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    Ewww, really? Ive heard LA is bad but damn! So you basically had sex with this girl for free, you paid the price of dances, thats not a sex price, ewww, just ewww! Something should be done about all these extras going on in the strip clubs, all us clean dancers should come together and get these girls out of the clubs! I mean its making our jobs so much harder. I mean we expect to be paid 100$ to dance for 3 songs but when the next girl who might look just as good as you is willing to give sex for that price, who can compete with that? I have absolutely nothing against escorts, I actually really respect what they do but they get paid and paid well to do what they do as they should, I just feel they need to not give services in the club itself, I dont even mind if you find a custy in the club who is going to become a client, later on after work, not in the club is the thing with me. I am a bitch to all extras girls, especially cheap ass extras girls cause your taking $$ out of my pocket and making my/all clean dancers jobs, harder. I noticed alot of newbie, young, stupid girls do this or the ones on drugs.

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    ^^^This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikk View Post
    So you basically had sex with this girl for free, you paid the price of dances, thats not a sex price, ewww, just ewww!
    Actually he paid her $60 for three dances and $100 over and above that for the sex...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LonerWithABoner View Post
    Hi, I'm new here. I live in the suburbs of Los Angeles and I recently re-discovered strip clubs after a long absence.

    Back in the 90s, I went to a few clubs like Deja Vu and they were extremely tame compared to the way things are now. Basically there was more of an emphasis on girls dancing on stage and putting on a show before they started hustling for dances. When I did get a dance, I was always told to put my hands on the chair and not touch anything. The most I would get is a nipple brushed across my face.

    Fast forward 15 years and I rediscovered the strip club scene, and what do I find?

    These places have basically turned into brothels.

    I won't name clubs, but I went to some in the City of Industry and surrounding areas (pomona, north oc, etc), and damn things have changed. There is little emphasis on stage dancing and most of the girls seem to just sit around.

    The best/worst part (depending on your point of view) is that the girls basically proposition me for services. I decided at one point to get a 2-for-1 couch dance with a girl and as soon as she got on my lap she grabbed my hand and put it on her ass. Then she grabbed my other hand and put it on her tits, so I basically spent the 2 songs groping her and fingering her.

    Then I decided to go with a multi-song VIP dance with a different girl and as soon as we got into the private booth she said "So all you want is a dance baby?"

    I said, "What else is there?" and she laid down a menu of services that I could purchase. Unreal. It was awesome I guess, but I just chose the dance.

    Later, a 3rd girl approached me while I was sitting alone. She kneeled down next to my chair and put her hand on my junk. I started getting hard and she unzipped my pants and put her hand inside my pants and started stroking me. She then offered me a blowjob if I purchased a VIP dance and gave her a specific tip. I declined.

    Before I left, I was chatting up a really cool and cute young girl who wasn't propositioning me at all. Not even doing a hustle. I decided to grab a quick 3-song dance in the VIP before I left, and again she hit me up with "So all you want is a dance baby?" I said "Why don't we just fuck?" and she told me it would be $100 and immediately pulled out a condom. I bent her over and pounded her for 3 songs and timed my nut perfectly right as the 3rd song was ending.

    I've had similar experiences at a few different fully-nude clubs in this area. I'm guessing it's normal now? Unfortunately, the looks of the girls aren't as great as they used to be. Sometimes I just want to watch a beautiful woman dance on stage while I throw dollar bills at her, instead of being hustled for blowjobs by skanks.

    Sorry if my language is too harsh, I'm new here. But it's a genuine question.....
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    I think this is going on everywhere in all likelihood. They are sex workers and limited dollars being spent in a very competitive environment means they find themselves in a dilemma.....charge less for their services or offer more for the money. Y More for the money is apparently the predominant choice.
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    Well, yes, it is spreading, the economic pressures are high everywhere. Chili Palmer states in the OP's case was not an unusual expense level for what was delivered, location and vis-a-vis the general sexwork market in Greater LA, and I'll defer to his better knowledge thereof.

    As our pink friends often mention, those sorts of prices tend to create a race-to-the-bottom scenario that can make things tougher both for the clean dancers and yes, even for the extras girls if eventually it becomes expected as a matter of course and can't command as high a premium; it can also inconvenience the casual visitor if it becomes unprofitable for the girls to stick to just dances and there has to be heavy upsell.

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    Update:

    I went to a different club last night in the City of Industry. I won't name the specific club.

    I paid a small entrance fee, a small fee for my mandatory drink, and sat down in the main area watching the stage. I made eye contact with a cute young latina girl who was working there and winked at her and she came over to talk to me.

    After a few minutes of small talk, she hit me up for a dance. I got a 2-for-1 nude dance in the lapdance booth, which isn't completely private, but is slightly blocked from view from the rest of the room. I immediately started groping her and sucking her tits and she let my hands and tongue go wherever.

    At the end, I had a full erection and she was rubbing it (her hands on the outside of my pants) and she told me "we can take care of that in the VIP room". We commenced negotiations and everything was available for a price. I chose the BJ option (no condom) in the VIP room for a very modest and affordable price, in addition to the price to the club of the VIP dance itself.

    We went to the bar, I paid the guy, he gave her the ticket, we went to the little booth in the back, I paid her the tip, she got on her knees, and 3 songs later I was zipping up my pants and she was wiping off her mouth. I was in and out in less than a half hour.

    L.A. area strip clubs are becoming a paradise for perverts like me.

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    Looks like another troll. You know, when I started reading his post I thought he was going to complain about the prostitutes who have invaded the strip clubs until I see he had sex with one and a blow job with another and then said they are now paradises for perverts like him. Translation he goes to the clubs for sex.

    I have no problem with prostitution at all and if this is something a man wants I see no problem going to an escort. However, going to clubs for sex just pisses me off.It's men like him and the women who cater to men like him that have ruined the industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    Looks like another troll. You know, when I started reading his post I thought he was going to complain about the prostitutes who have invaded the strip clubs until I see he had sex with one and a blow job with another and then said they are now paradises for perverts like him. Translation he goes to the clubs for sex.

    I have no problem with prostitution at all and if this is something a man wants I see no problem going to an escort. However, going to clubs for sex just pisses me off.It's men like him and the women who cater to men like him that have ruined the industry.
    Don't blame me, I'm just reacting to the world.

    Like I said in the original post, I first started going to Los Angeles-area strip clubs in the 90s when things were very tame. You weren't even allowed to grab a girl's ass.

    Then for over a decade I never stepped foot inside a strip club because I discovered sensual massages and escorts and figured if I was going to blow all that money, that I should at least go home satisfied. But out of curiosity, I decided to hit up some of the strip clubs and I've found they've totally changed.

    In a way, it's disappointing because it used to be fun to watch the girls dance. But now at these ghetto City of Industry clubs the girls barely dance at all.

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