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    OK so we are a couple having a go at camming.

    Tonight we were on for 3 solid hours doing our best on SM, and we got 1 pvt making us $6 in 3 hours. Pathetic.

    All beggers & freeloaders, even setting our price to $4.99 still loads of beggers and freeloaders.

    3 other sessions this week have gone exactly the same.

    So after 3 hours of deciding SM appears to be overrated, we try to split cam chaturbate and cam 4 - over 400 viewers and not ONE tip over the course of another hour.

    Seriously?!? People say stick with it, we really cannot believe that we can make even MINIMUM WAGE doing this so far.

    Put so much research in, like 40 hours this week and nothing. It didn't pay off. They didn't have cash.

    Grrrrr!

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    Default Re: New to camming, fed up already!

    Maybe camming isn't for you..? It's a sales job essentially... My mom was in sales while I was growing up and she did well but put my dad on a sales floor he wouldnt make anything...
    Maybe it's slow?
    you say you'reon SM...how is your lighting, cam quality, laptop(i7?) and Internet speed...alot of placement and therefore traffic is based on that.
    Maybe you just haven't found your hustle yet.
    I stay stick it out but play around with your style, maybe try singles camming, check your cam feed, lighting, change up sites etc.

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    Default Re: New to camming, fed up already!

    Couples in general don't do as well as single women.
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    You are sassy AND smart Miss Pickles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbeth View Post
    Maybe camming isn't for you..? It's a sales job essentially... My mom was in sales while I was growing up and she did well but put my dad on a sales floor he wouldnt make anything...
    Maybe it's slow?
    you say you'reon SM...how is your lighting, cam quality, laptop(i7?) and Internet speed...alot of placement and therefore traffic is based on that.
    Maybe you just haven't found your hustle yet.
    I stay stick it out but play around with your style, maybe try singles camming, check your cam feed, lighting, change up sites etc.
    We have great lighting, setup with HD cam etc but not getting much attention at all :/
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    Default Re: New to camming, fed up already!

    Quote Originally Posted by MissSassyPickles View Post
    Couples in general don't do as well as single women.
    very true. If you look at the top hosts they are nearly all camming by themselves.


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    Default Re: New to camming, fed up already!

    When I first started I didn't make "bank" Hell, I struggled to make payout. I cammed every night. It is a "stick with it" game. Many sites that others do great with I did not.

    Customers ask me to bring in a man all the time and I will not do it. I refuse.

    You guys have to find the site that suits you. IMO any first time cammer should not split cam, I believe you need to learn each site. I didn't start using multiple sites until I found a site that worked for me then I brought in other sites.
    It took me 6 months of camming and fucking around to find MY SITE.
    Most posts that you are prob reading about streamate imlive cam4 chaturbute MFC etc are coming from VET cammers making good money.

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    Default Re: New to camming, fed up already!

    Maybe try camming by yourself? If you can bank by yourself, why do couple show?

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    Default Re: New to camming, fed up already!

    Please don't take this the wrong way, but I get so frustrated by how new cammers think camming is easy money.
    It's a job, and unlike the other jobs where you clock in and clock out, a lot of if relies on regulars. Not as much on sm as mfc but still. those regs are the ones who come back for more every week and will make you feel better on your off days. It takes times to build up a regular schedule and regular custies. Couples rarely do as well as single girls even though on cam sites that allow it, they get huge amounts of traffic. that traffic isnt paying. I find personally my best customers are ones who want to 'be' with me or 'picture' themselves with me or whatever. they dont want to see my guy fucking me. lol (thats just me but obviously it varies from custy to custy.) Very rarely do new girls get lucky and get a lucky streak their first few nights and stay at the top, and some do get that lucky streak and go right back down to the bottom again. This industry is very hit and miss, and we all have bad days. really bad days. days of NO profit. and we all have amazing days. days that make it all worth it. If you're serious about camming the only way to really learn about it is to DO it. you can research and look up all the info and stats you want, at the end of the day how you actually perform on cam makes all the difference. and just sometimes getting that guy who comes in at the right time with the money. But to just put 3 hours in and expect things to be amazing is unrealistic. and i cant help but feel if you really did do 40 or more hours of research youd know that this isnt even common for regular cammers.

    sorry for the long post guys >.> <.< /endrant


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    Default Re: New to camming, fed up already!

    Quote Originally Posted by KillKeely View Post
    Please don't take this the wrong way, but I get so frustrated by how new cammers think camming is easy money.
    It's a job, and unlike the other jobs where you clock in and clock out, a lot of if relies on regulars. Not as much on sm as mfc but still. those regs are the ones who come back for more every week and will make you feel better on your off days. It takes times to build up a regular schedule and regular custies. Couples rarely do as well as single girls even though on cam sites that allow it, they get huge amounts of traffic. that traffic isnt paying. I find personally my best customers are ones who want to 'be' with me or 'picture' themselves with me or whatever. they dont want to see my guy fucking me. lol (thats just me but obviously it varies from custy to custy.) Very rarely do new girls get lucky and get a lucky streak their first few nights and stay at the top, and some do get that lucky streak and go right back down to the bottom again. This industry is very hit and miss, and we all have bad days. really bad days. days of NO profit. and we all have amazing days. days that make it all worth it. If you're serious about camming the only way to really learn about it is to DO it. you can research and look up all the info and stats you want, at the end of the day how you actually perform on cam makes all the difference. and just sometimes getting that guy who comes in at the right time with the money. But to just put 3 hours in and expect things to be amazing is unrealistic. and i cant help but feel if you really did do 40 or more hours of research youd know that this isnt even common for regular cammers.

    sorry for the long post guys >.> <.< /endrant
    Thank you for your words, well written and we understood what you said completely. Puts things into perspective.

    I guess i'm too much of an optimist, gotta be more realistic with this.

    We will continue to work on it

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    Default Re: New to camming, fed up already!

    It takes time for it to work... Not one night. Not 3 hours but month of trying to see what works/doesn't work for you. Experimenting with it... Personally me- I started camming 3 years ago. I tried every site out there. I made less then a minimum for A LONG time. It takes dedication and determination. Camming is not for everyone but if you truly want to succeed at it you need to put a lot of energy in to it in the beginning... I am just now- 3 years later- feel like I am making it...
    So what I am trying to say is- if you REALLY wanna TRY to make it work- be ready to put a lot of sweat and tears in to it...
    Quote Originally Posted by Curvy Jane View Post
    OK so we are a couple having a go at camming.

    Tonight we were on for 3 solid hours doing our best on SM, and we got 1 pvt making us $6 in 3 hours. Pathetic.

    All beggers & freeloaders, even setting our price to $4.99 still loads of beggers and freeloaders.

    3 other sessions this week have gone exactly the same.

    So after 3 hours of deciding SM appears to be overrated, we try to split cam chaturbate and cam 4 - over 400 viewers and not ONE tip over the course of another hour.

    Seriously?!? People say stick with it, we really cannot believe that we can make even MINIMUM WAGE doing this so far.

    Put so much research in, like 40 hours this week and nothing. It didn't pay off. They didn't have cash.

    Grrrrr!

    /Rant

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    Just to add to what the other ladies are saying about couples vs solo, I'm not sure which "niches" you fit into, but I notice that you have "curvy" in your name. It's hard to tell from your photo how "curvy" you are. If you are BBW tho, I suggest trying solo camming. Unfortunately, couples who do really well seem to be in a very limited category/categories. I think it's awesome that so many different types of women can do really well at camming if they stick to it & work hard. There are so many different types of men who want different types of women, of all body types, personalities, etc. However, couples camming seems to be extremely limiting in this regard & I've rarely seen a couple do well who doesn't fit very particular specifications.

    So, in short, I agree that you should try it solo & see how it goes. Guys might find you more approachable that way. Having a man on cam with you can be intimidating to the male customers, & it can also bring out the nastiness in men who see another man as competition.

    I also agree that with as few hours as you've put in, you can't really gauge how things "are" on there. There are so many performers & the turnover rate is very high. There are a lot of guys who love new performers but many more who aren't willing to invest in someone who might just be gone tomorrow.

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    In my experience with chaturbate I do great on my own and terrible with the fellow. Guys in my room and regulars have even said they'd prefer to not see me with anyone else, even another female (I provide the "girlfriend" fantasy/experience). Thank goodness I never brought my gent in my own room and only broadcasted under his screen-name. Over all typically the guys in couples on cam are generally (note I am making a generalization that I have been told) seen more as stunt cocks and the ladies take the fore-front. Maybe try it out on your own. The number one thing I see people do that get's them no tips as new cammer's is giving away ANYTHING without getting tipped for it. Never ever give away your goal before you meet it. People pay 1000tokens to get me to strip tease just my top off and this generally warms up the room (different people tip in on that) and I hit it nearly every time-- I chat in the mean-time. But on nights where the tips are not coming in and I know if I was half naked sexy dancing people would tip more, I still do not take my top off- Or else how can I expect anyone to pay for it next time, the regulars know the drill. They even stop tipping when known big tippers come in the room because they will wait to see if that tipper will take care of the goal for them etc. Sell personality, whether it's shy, sweet, kind, cheeky, bitchy, etc- there is a customer for every style. Don't just sit on cam bored because noone is tipping either-- even though you are not giving into their demands of "open boobs bb" and "if you took off your top people would tip more" - those are 90% of the time said by greys anyway who just want a freeshow. Enjoy your room. Depending on my mood I talk about work, books I've read, travels, ask them questions that I would ask someone I am getting to know, like "What is your favorite thing that you did today" or "where is your favorite place and why is it your favorite place" etc or bounce around on the bed or do yoga-- etc -- that's just my style- you'll find yours. Hope this advice helps (didn't know if you already knew all that but thought I'd pitch in what I've learned) Cheers and good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adorkable View Post
    In my experience with chaturbate I do great on my own and terrible with the fellow. Guys in my room and regulars have even said they'd prefer to not see me with anyone else, even another female (I provide the "girlfriend" fantasy/experience). Thank goodness I never brought my gent in my own room and only broadcasted under his screen-name. Over all typically the guys in couples on cam are generally (note I am making a generalization that I have been told) seen more as stunt cocks and the ladies take the fore-front. Maybe try it out on your own. The number one thing I see people do that get's them no tips as new cammer's is giving away ANYTHING without getting tipped for it. Never ever give away your goal before you meet it. People pay 1000tokens to get me to strip tease just my top off and this generally warms up the room (different people tip in on that) and I hit it nearly every time-- I chat in the mean-time. But on nights where the tips are not coming in and I know if I was half naked sexy dancing people would tip more, I still do not take my top off- Or else how can I expect anyone to pay for it next time, the regulars know the drill. They even stop tipping when known big tippers come in the room because they will wait to see if that tipper will take care of the goal for them etc. Sell personality, whether it's shy, sweet, kind, cheeky, bitchy, etc- there is a customer for every style. Don't just sit on cam bored because noone is tipping either-- even though you are not giving into their demands of "open boobs bb" and "if you took off your top people would tip more" - those are 90% of the time said by greys anyway who just want a freeshow. Enjoy your room. Depending on my mood I talk about work, books I've read, travels, ask them questions that I would ask someone I am getting to know, like "What is your favorite thing that you did today" or "where is your favorite place and why is it your favorite place" etc or bounce around on the bed or do yoga-- etc -- that's just my style- you'll find yours. Hope this advice helps (didn't know if you already knew all that but thought I'd pitch in what I've learned) Cheers and good luck!
    Many thanks for the advice, we will take all that on board.

    Strangely our couple account gets more attention than my solo account on SM, but that is only from a week so too early to gauge but like you say on CB it's the other way around.

    I'm a shy, quiet kinda girl that easily gets mistaken for boredom.. trying to figure out how to work with that?!..
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    Shy and quiet can work too-- just be active instead, do things that may intrigue them... Check out other girls cams and see what you would tip for personally, A lot of girls are just already going at it, so I think.. why would someone entering the room now such as myself tip as I can already get the whole thing, or a girl just sitting there staring at her screen.. I think.. boring.. clicks next.. I even chat with greys.. But it should be something that demonstrates you... And put up a goal-- I like the tip goal king app--

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    One thing that I do on SM that helps ME....is I log on and have only me in free chat. That way I get lots of guys doing SOLO stuff, and every now and then doing couples shows.
    Ive recently heard that this is technically not allowed on SM, so Im not sure if this is great advice! I think the only reason (perhaps) that I get away with it, is because instead of them doing what they NORMALLY do (create a solo account for each person, and then create a seperate SOLO account) SM just turned my SOLO account into a couple account.
    I dunno why they did that, but Im glad they did, cause it works out better for me

    That being said, if you can't do THAT, I would keep doing the couple stuff for a while. One thing I noticed is that it's really hard for the guy to continue to preform and preform....
    after your guy is 'done' for the night, maybe log into your solo account.

    I also vote for BBW IF you fit into that category. I've seen even curvy girls in BBW, so if you're close enough it might even work to your benefit, even if you're say....100 lbs lighter than most of the girls in that category.
    It would certainly help you in the way that....you could be on page 4 or something of regular girls, but you'd still probably be on page 1 RIGHT near the top (considering you have an HD cam, and great internet) of the BBW's
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    Yeah, SM prefers that you don't use your couples account as a solo account. Girls abuse that to try to get better placement, and it's misleading to the customers. Even if you have in your room topic that you're solo, the guys will complain, even to support. Though you don't need the guy on cam to get the customers interested.

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    Yeah, I hear that. Don't know why we don't have a separate couples account, but....*shrugs*
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    Can I share my experience with you?? The first week I cammed, I was soooooo disappointed.. I wanted to quit.. I was on unemployment was sick of getting laid off and wanted to try something that had more of an opportunity.. I figured I would be getting shows left and right and it would be easy.. I wouldn't have to work much.. now this was in 2003... My first week I only made $35.00 the WHOLE WEEK!!! ...my primary site was on IMLIVE... I worked about 2 hours a day.. I didn't think I had to work more!!... BUT.. I decided to put in as many hours as I could STAND!!... and for me it's a career.. I put myself out there all over the place!! ..clips, cam sites, social media, porn videos, photo shoots, phone sites,,... etc etc... And for SM!.. .I started with them in 2009,... and because I was split camming not even paying attention to the potential of SM..I only made 200 a week more or less.. and now I make over 1000 a week ... just on SM alone and I split cam still!!..LOL... I am trying to get to a consistent 2 grand a week...IT'S ALOT OF WORK!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissSassyPickles View Post
    Couples in general don't do as well as single women.
    I disagree. Myself and my bf usually pull more than I do alone. Only reecently has my solo modeling caught up. But doing both= SMART

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    Also..if you want the couples route, focus on personality. You want to see BOTH people not just one. If your bf isn't very chatty/comfortable people will pick up on it and it will make THEM uncomfortable. I do well with my man because he gives off a strong air of bicurious and is comfortable with people seeing me naked. It makes the guys comfy tipping for it.

    I would also reccomend [if you like to chat and you think you would do well with a tipping time set up over privates] to try the tip goal route. Try chaturbate for that. Set a tip goal for naked and then oral and then sex and in the meantime talk to people A LOT.
    You WILL need to be patient though. If you don't "get lucky" as is said, it will take a while to find your stride. It will take work and commitment. It took me MONTHS before I was pulling anything decent. And I did ALLL the research...I raped this forum lol.
    But it CAN be done. This isn't an easy job. All it's perks [no boss! no set hours!] come with a price.

    I'd say give it a month. If you're still not pulling much and you've tried some different methods, maybe cammin' ain't for you. Not everyone can do it, much to the surprise of mainstream media =)

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