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    As some of you know, when i first started camming, it was on MFC. $1k/week was nothing and I loved what i did. after about six months it started to drop off to the point where i made nothing, so i moved on. I've occasionally gotten on MFC since, but it's always awful(10 tokens in two hours awful).

    Last night I did a "free show" for some of my fans, and promoted the idea none of them had to make accounts. It was basically just a hang out. It went well, everyone was laughing, joking, and having a really positive time. The scary part?

    No one on my room was random. Some MFC guys popped in and out, but it was mostly just my fans, who were there under the pretenses they wouldn't have to spend money. Only one o them was premium, and though he did tip me, this realization really scared me - if I'd just logged in to try and make money, and didn't purposely have people coming to talk, I would have had an empty room and made nothing in the 101 minutes I was on. Even on my slowest of slow days on SM it's never been THAT bad.

    Is this where camming is headed? I know there are girls here who still do well on MFC but the fact i was on, talking, smiling and doing literally everything right for an hour and a half and no random guys decided to stick around scares me. It reminds me that while camming may be a job, there really is no security that comes with it.


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    Default Re: My MFC experiance and why it scares the crap out of me

    Totally wrote a reply and it vanished into the middle of nowhere! But anyway it said something like:
    I know how you feel. If they actually had any respect for you they would have signed up and tipped regardless of what you said. Maybe you need to take a look at your so call 'fans' and decide if they are worth your time and effort. and then I said - That is why I am moving onto selling clips and doing sites that dont require free chat.


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    I don't think MFC should scare you. It's one of those sites where you HAVE to put in consistent effort to get a good return. You HAVE to build a presence on there, sometimes for months, before it pays off. Everybody knows that there are some sites like SM where you can log on and make money immediately but MFC is not one of them. You mentioned you haven't cammed on MFC in a while, so how is your cam score? Is it low? Because if it's low of course you're not going to have guys find you. You'd need to drive your own traffic and try to do whatever it takes to get a higher cam score so that you get some more traffic to your room and hope it is paying traffic. Once your cam score drops too low I think you might as well give up, that's exactly what I did and I don't regret it in the least. I know it's possible to raise a 4-500 score to over a thousand but I don't have the time to put in that much effort for no immediate return, and a lot of other girls don't have that kind of time either.

    To answer your question I do not think that your experience the other night is where camming is headed. MFC just isn't for you. That's not an insult, it isn't for me either but if doesn't mean you can't be successful elsewhere. I think the problem with the MFC model is that damned cam score combined with the fact that they don't have categories like every other site out there. Cam score can bring one on an upward spiral or a downward spiral, there's not a lot of in between with that. So once a girl's cam score start going down she's not getting as much exposure. If MFC impemented searchable categories by ethnicity, age, body type, etc. maybe that girl with the lower cam score might be visible if guys were browsing within a niche category but since they don't have that option, the girl goes unnoticed and doesn't get tippers into her room. Luckily most sites aren't as exclusionary as MFC.


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    Jaana, I sucked at MFC but on SM, I do very well. I read in another thread that naked is similar to MFC, just no camscore. I may try there as a backup site, although it looks slow and lots of freeloaders too, but at least there is no camscore to worry about and I think the private rates are better. However, I am seeing lots of gals building up toward shows in free chat, just like on MFC (even though it's against the terms). No way I'm doing that...I can't stand when the nice guys have to pay for the freeloaders..that's the only good thing about SM's gold shows.


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    In any over-saturated market there's always the thought of possibly bottoming out. That's why I believe women should spread themselves and never put their eggs in one basket. That way, if something bottoms out, you have enough to get by on and can go after the next best thing. Trust me, this industry will forever evolve and as long as you're on the up and up on the industry you can make money and milk everything. I not only cam on the side, I do phone sex too still and have a vanilla business for back up just in case.


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    You control your room. You REWARDED them with continuing to be there & tolerate them not tipping you. Should have logged off.
    I would never spend that much time & NOT make money.

    Don't mistake freeloaders for fans.

    Awesome that Streamate works for you. Remember MfC is a a different kind of hustle.

    I get plenty of privates on MFC & SM. I never reward bad behavior on either site. It is my room, I am in control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    You control your room. You REWARDED them with continuing to be there & tolerate them not tipping you. Should have logged off.
    I would never spend that much time & NOT make money.

    Don't mistake freeloaders for fans.

    Awesome that Streamate works for you. Remember MfC is a a different kind of hustle.

    I get plenty of privates on MFC & SM. I never reward bad behavior on either site. It is my room, I am in control.

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    I think a lot of you are misunderstanding me. i wasn't TRYING to make money last night. These are fans I have from a porn board who don't generally purchase cam shows., many of them have bought clips in the past. This was a MEET AND GREET/hang out, not a show, I didbn't want to do privates. i didn't do anything sexual. i sat around fully clothed and talked about hockey and MSt3K for an hour. that was my intention. What scared me was the fact that no one other than the people from the forum that I invited stayed. They are NOT freeloaders and I don't appreciate some of you making assumptions about my fans like that solely because they didn't spend money on me yesterday even though i told them the show as just supposed to be a group hang out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    I think a lot of you are misunderstanding me. i wasn't TRYING to make money last night. These are fans I have from a porn board who don't generally purchase cam shows., many of them have bought clips in the past. This was a MEET AND GREET/hang out, not a show, I didbn't want to do privates. i didn't do anything sexual. i sat around fully clothed and talked about hockey and MSt3K for an hour. that was my intention. What scared me was the fact that no one other than the people from the forum that I invited stayed. They are NOT freeloaders and I don't appreciate some of you making assumptions about my fans like that solely because they didn't spend money on me yesterday even though i told them the show as just supposed to be a group hang out.
    Well you weren't clear in your OP. You use the words "free show" and sirens blare in everyone's heads, lol. Maybe you should edit your OP and explain yourself better and not get mad at the upset at the rest of us.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    I think a lot of you are misunderstanding me. i wasn't TRYING to make money last night. These are fans I have from a porn board who don't generally purchase cam shows., many of them have bought clips in the past. This was a MEET AND GREET/hang out, not a show, I didbn't want to do privates. i didn't do anything sexual. i sat around fully clothed and talked about hockey and MSt3K for an hour. that was my intention. What scared me was the fact that no one other than the people from the forum that I invited stayed. They are NOT freeloaders and I don't appreciate some of you making assumptions about my fans like that solely because they didn't spend money on me yesterday even though i told them the show as just supposed to be a group hang out.
    Well, as far as people not staying in your room, if you were on MFC looking to get off, would you stick around in a models room who obviously wasn't going to be doing anything sexual? So, that doesn't mean MFC is a bad place, it just means your room wasn't an appealing place to be for anyone except those that just wanted to talk to you.

    Also, even when I'm not doing anything, my fans (even a few twitter 'friends' that have NEVER bought a show) tip me from time to time just to see me smile. Even when they only came into my room to talk to me/say hi. I feel like if your fans are that amazing one of them would have at least tipped you as a "Thanks for hanging out with us" kind of thing. Idk, I just feel like that would have been appropriate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StephanieXS View Post
    Well, as far as people not staying in your room, if you were on MFC looking to get off, would you stick around in a models room who obviously wasn't going to be doing anything sexual? So, that doesn't mean MFC is a bad place, it just means your room wasn't an appealing place to be for anyone except those that just wanted to talk to you.

    Also, even when I'm not doing anything, my fans (even a few twitter 'friends' that have NEVER bought a show) tip me from time to time just to see me smile. Even when they only came into my room to talk to me/say hi. I feel like if your fans are that amazing one of them would have at least tipped you as a "Thanks for hanging out with us" kind of thing. Idk, I just feel like that would have been appropriate.
    That's the thing. When I joined MFC abck in 2010, people DID hang out for the conversation. the same thing still happens on SM today. In fact, I'd say my conversations and personality make me more money than my looks do. THAT'S what was scaring me. The room felt just like it did three years ago, only this time people weren't staying.

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    Jaana, maybe you could do your experiment again but then have a tip goal and see how things go? I feel like because you went in with the intention just to hang out, it wasn't necessarily a fair representation of your earning potential on MFC.
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    Im unclear how the unpaid outcome of intentionally driving nonpaying members to a paysite on one site is a sign of the endtimes of the camming industry.

    3-5 people gave you very careful and thoughtful advice but youre intentionally stepping over it to favor of defending your fans. This is a camming forum, we'll focus on the income generation aspect of your examples. We dont know these friends of yours so we cant pretend to understand your relationship to them. Just understand that when you tell people that their industry is going to pits and this is one example of why youre scared -- expect pushback and scathing analysis from your colleagues?

    Since IVe been on SW there are numerous people who have predicted the decline and death of camming (usually focus on 1 or 2 sites for some reason), and all of them have been wrong. It is such a strange impulse and nearly every 'scary' prediction and handwringing have failed, so I never understand why some make it such pessimism a habit - it is like negativity exhibitionism? IDGI. Then almost each one gets defensive when people in this industry push back at their evaluation. Of course we will?

    Take these specific nonpaying fans to OOVOO or Tinychat in the future? Dont invite them to a paysite platform you know theyll never signup for. Especially dont invite them on a site where your rankings / rating / traffic is dependent on time online : tokens received, and then tell them 'dont sign in or signup'? Non-nude or 'just hanging out' is irrelevant to this equation as people get paid for their company every day?

    Maybe members willing to pay came by but heard you only talking to people not in the room and saw you were talking about very niche stuff and left? Maybe you started the show on a low camscore and that set the tone for that 110minutes? Maybe it was just a slow hour on MFC?

    There was a very strategic "anti-effort" on your part, so you cant blame the site's built-in traffic exclusively for the outcome. Id expect MFC to have more built in traffic for 110minutes but more things were at play here.





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    Quote Originally Posted by roast View Post
    Im unclear how the unpaid outcome of intentionally driving nonpaying members to a paysite on one site is a sign of the endtimes of the camming industry.

    3-5 people gave you very careful and thoughtful advice but youre intentionally stepping over it to favor of defending your fans. This is a camming forum, we'll focus on the income generation aspect of your examples. We dont know these friends of yours so we cant pretend to understand your relationship to them. Just understand that when you tell people that their industry is going to pits and this is one example of why youre scared -- expect pushback and scathing analysis from your colleagues?

    Since IVe been on SW there are numerous people who have predicted the decline and death of camming (usually focus on 1 or 2 sites for some reason), and all of them have been wrong. It is such a strange impulse and nearly every 'scary' prediction and handwringing have failed, so I never understand why some make it such pessimism a habit - it is like negativity exhibitionism? IDGI. Then almost each one gets defensive when people in this industry push back at their evaluation. Of course we will?

    Take these specific nonpaying fans to OOVOO or Tinychat in the future? Dont invite them to a paysite platform you know theyll never signup for. Especially dont invite them on a site where your rankings / rating / traffic is dependent on time online : tokens received, and then tell them 'dont sign in or signup'? Non-nude or 'just hanging out' is irrelevant to this equation as people get paid for their company every day?

    Maybe members willing to pay came by but heard you only talking to people not in the room and saw you were talking about very niche stuff and left? Maybe you started the show on a low camscore and that set the tone for that 110minutes? Maybe it was just a slow hour on MFC?

    There was a very strategic "anti-effort" on your part, so you cant blame the site's built-in traffic exclusively for the outcome. Id expect MFC to have more built in traffic for 110minutes but more things were at play here.
    They were in my room. Why would I be on cam and talk to people not in my room?

    My point in posting this wasn't to get advice. i was sharing my experience as it related to similar expiriances I'd had years ago on the same website, doing the same thing. Like i said in my OP, one of them did tip me and he tipped well. Everyone else has bought clips in the past. I told them I wasn't doing private or group shows but i didn't tell them to not tip. I'm sorry if I like to give people who have been good to me a non-sexual treat once in a while.

    I don't think my conversation scared anyone off. These are literally the same things I talk about any time I'm on cam because they're what I love. I would hardly consider professional sports and movies niche.

    Like I said before, this exact show three years ago would've made me $100. last night it made me $30. THAT'S what scares me about MFC ad why I get paranoid. You can't blame someone in my physical and financial condition for being paranoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    I like to give people who have been good to me a non-sexual treat once in a while
    there are definitely ways to effectively monetize this, unless one uses the site frequently/has a high cam score mfc probably isn't the best way to go about it

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    Like I said before, this exact show three years ago would've made me $100. last night it made me $30. THAT'S what scares me about MFC ad why I get paranoid. You can't blame someone in my physical and financial condition for being paranoid.
    honestly, if I did the same thing I did three years ago I probably wouldn't have much success either. Camming changes, we adapt, that's not a tenet exclusive to a particular cam site. There is one critical difference between your experience 3 years ago and now though, three years ago you used the site regularly and had a base of regular tipping customers. I've never used mfc but it doesn't seem to be the kind of site where you can drop in every now and then and expect to bank.

    I know you have a ton on your plate right now in terms of stress but I think what chicas are getting at is that two hours on a cam site isn't indicitive of anything, and that feeling worried and/or paranoid doesn't solve much. Thinking strategically and testing different ways of doing things to find out what works for you does. One bad night on any site is not evidence of an industry-wide decline for anyone, including you. The best and worst characteristic of our job is the same (depending on where we stand at any given moment): there's a ton of $$$$ out there. It's up to each of us individually to figure out how to get it.


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    Jaana, you can't just return to a site like MFC after a long hiatus and expect to make the exact same amount doing the exact same thing. MFC doesn't work as SM does, I'm sure that you know that.

    When you first started, I'm sure that you didn't bank right away. I certainly didn't. You most likely had to take the time to build a following (we all have to). Now 3 years later, are your followers still there? Maybe they are, maybe they're not, in any case, during your time of absence they might've found someone new to follow or cancelled their accounts. MFC is about having people who like you as a person, and that usually takes time. They need to see you there often. They rarely just pop in, ask for a private and leave. The people who were there were people from a forum who KNEW that you were going to do a meet and greet. Everyone else that popped in didn't know what was happening, and perhaps the event wasn't as interesting for them because they didn't know you. You said that you weren't TRYING to make money, yet you still are upset when you didn't make much?

    Also, how is your camscore? Has it dropped? Guys on MFC are lazy and stick to the first page, and the first few rows. People who pop into your room might've just been looking for a "free show" if you advertised it that way (I don't know what was in your topic).

    You can't just judge the future of camming from one experience. It's as if I went to a clothing store and expected the EXACT same items of clothing from 3 years ago (unless it's a store known for that, but even then, they have new items every season). Things in this world just tend to change over time; technology, fashion, standard norms... Cam sites are not excluded from this list. Just like any brand, you have to build awareness of your presence and of what your shows consist of. People tend to go with the familiar names on MFC.

    I'm not trying to chew you out here Jaana, I respect you as a camgirl and consider you as one of the most diverse on here. You offer plenty of great advice that I've followed. I just don't understand why you would assume something like that after one experience on one site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Don't mistake freeloaders for fans.
    *standing ovation*

    I got into it with an MFC freeloader once who tried to insist that he was a valuable "fan" because even though he refused to spend a penny on a cam site, he "contributed by way of conversation". HAHAHAHA. Conversation never paid my bills.
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    Not to repeat what the other ladies have said....But they are are right....
    The thing about MFC is the guys are playing a lame game and alot of the girls are playing into it.
    aka
    "I don't want your money."
    "I just do this for fun."
    "I'm just an Exhibitionist."


    On and on......
    Basically the Girls that make money doing this have Custies that don't want to feel like they have to pay for it.
    But the freeloader crowd is using this angle of the game to play regular camgirls.
    MAKE NO MISTAKE about it this is only about money, And the rest is all lies.
    Otherwise all those girls would be on Skype its free as it comes or tinychat or something.

    FYI MFC doesn't play "FREESHOWS" either , Tha'ts why they kill your camscore and bury you on page 5 aka the graveyard. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    I think a lot of you are misunderstanding me. i wasn't TRYING to make money last night. These are fans I have from a porn board who don't generally purchase cam shows., many of them have bought clips in the past. This was a MEET AND GREET/hang out, not a show, I didbn't want to do privates. i didn't do anything sexual. i sat around fully clothed and talked about hockey and MSt3K for an hour. that was my intention. What scared me was the fact that no one other than the people from the forum that I invited stayed. They are NOT freeloaders and I don't appreciate some of you making assumptions about my fans like that solely because they didn't spend money on me yesterday even though i told them the show as just supposed to be a group hang out.
    Jaana, I got you when I first came into the forum. You clearly (to me) stated that it was a fan only show. However, I believe the reason WHY the others didn't stay is because on a site where nudity, teasing, foreplay etc is easily accessible, they weren't interested in the hockey talk. Not saying that sports and such aren't engaging and gets a guys blood boiling, but you catch my drift. They probably came in, waited to see some action, saw none, then went to search for some. Most guys on there come in to bust a nut and even skip and bounce around the rooms to see who's showing the most (whether they tip or not). Also, your placement could have had everything to do with it. If you weren't at the top or near the first page they probably didn't even see you.


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    Ever thought that by bringing non-paying men to your room just to hang out you might be contributing to that so-called-"decline" in MFC/money. Just a thought...like, the irony? Idk man.








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    yay and here is my 2 cents lol mfc without a psuedo celebritism = no money and 0 and I mean Zero people in your room... fuck mfc is hard i have been thier for a month and a half now and finally got my cam score over 800 but i will say this mfc guys are diff from any other site it feels like im running a talk show that would make howard stern blush but those regs... when you get them are Very loyal... where as other sites... not so much
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    I'm kinda new but am a strictly MFC girl lately. Here's my thoughts on this and MFC in general...

    So you haven't been on in like forever, just talked for 2 hours and still made $30 when you weren't trying to get money?! That's not too bad for how it's been lately! Imagine how much you would have made if you were trying to bank and did some teasing or anything kinda sexual. Also you camscore is probably much lower now, but it you stick it out, you could probably WORK your way back up to $1k/wk in a coulple months. You just gotta keep with it!

    Like the others said, MFC is the kind of place you need to stick with! I took 2 weeks off and had a HORRIBLE week when I first came back. In about 2 weeks and I went from $35-50/hr to around $10-20/hr! I'm still struggling to work my way back. It's picking up now. I have def learned my lesson to STAY ON THERE! My camscore is around 1400 now and if I didn't take that break it would probably be much higher and I'd be making more. Anyway, working my way back and believe that it's gonna keep getting better the more I PUT INTO IT!

    I like MFC because you can pretty much do whatever you want (within reason) as long as you accept tokens for payment! There are lots of cool guys and I enjoy the vibe I can create there. The freedom we have at MFC gives me an empowered feeling! When I was on SM, I felt cheap and dirty for some reason. Maybe it's how little my cut is compared to MFC! Also guys on SM complain about my rates when they are a HUGE pay cut compared to my MFC pvts. Or the 30 second peepers, GOLD show BS, ect... This list goes on and on! HA!

    My quote for MFC "If you build it, they will CUM" -pretty much sums it up!

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    Jaana, I like you. I really do, and I think you have more sense than this. You said you weren't trying to make money, but you used this one MFC shift as evidence for why you think camming might be on the decline. It makes no sense, honey. You purposely invited freeloaders to MFC, giving them no inkling of an expectation that they should pay you. You brought these specific non-paying fans to the site to hang out and talk about things THEY were interested in. So I suppose I don't understand how it would be shocking that you did not make much, even if you used to when you worked on MFC before. MFC is one of those things that you have to put consistent time into. I think you know this. If you tell these guys they don't have to pay? They aren't gonna pay. That is how a lot of girls get walked all over. Never forget that you are providing a service that they want. I understand, you were likely doing this for marketing/promo. But MFC just doesn't work that way. If you explicitly invited friendly freeloaders to listen to you talk, then why would you expect any other result? This whole thing is trial and error. You tried something; it didn't work. That doesn't mean camming is dying. It just means that you tried one thing that didn't work like you wanted. No harm, just pick yourself up and try something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justadorable View Post
    yay and here is my 2 cents lol mfc without a psuedo celebritism = no money and 0 and I mean Zero people in your room... fuck mfc is hard i have been thier for a month and a half now and finally got my cam score over 800 but i will say this mfc guys are diff from any other site it feels like im running a talk show that would make howard stern blush but those regs... when you get them are Very loyal... where as other sites... not so much
    You hit on a couple things that are true of MFC, my dear Adorb. It is quite different from other sites. And yep, it can be damn hard to figure out. One thing you do that worked out great one night might cause you to bomb the very next day. The other thing you said about loyalty- that is the WHOLE KEY to MFC. You need loyal fans- not just customers. They need to invest in your personality.

    Some other points on what you said, though- the comment about running a talk show that would make Howard Stern blush? Are you possibly giving them too much just with your words? Some of these jackwads get off just on that. I personally never "talk shop" so to speak, unless I'm getting tipped. I'll make a joke or something, like, "Slow your roll Slick, we just met!" On MFC (in my opinion, this is more vital on MFC than on other sites) you absolutely need to maintain control of your room at all times. If you aren't in control, they can smell it and will run clean over you. But I vehemently disagree that you need to be a pseudo-celeb to find any success. I don't think that's required at all on MFC. You need the right combo of skill, and largely, luck. The whole free chat hustle is very trial and error. It's crazy and frustrating at times, but when it clicks for you, it's worth the trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    They are NOT freeloaders and I don't appreciate some of you making assumptions about my fans like that solely because they didn't spend money on me yesterday even though i told them the show as just supposed to be a group hang out.
    I understand that it was a meet and greet but I still have to say that I think your fans were being freeloaders. In my personal opinion, your time is worth money and they should at least give you some small token of thanks for you being there.

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    MFC is way too oversaturated. Why would guys there stick around for a girl NOT doing any type of show when they can go watch hundreds of others who ARE doing shows? The fact you make money talking on another site or that you used to on MFC doesn't mean you're going to get the same results on MFC now. The market has changed on MFC as well as everywhere, but it's probably most apparent on MFC because it is SO oversaturated.
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