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    Who says college is the only way to a financial A?! Here's some crafty ways to make money after dancing begins to be a bore.

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    http://www.cnbc.com/id/48094214/Hiri..._Women_Welcome
    While millions across the country struggle to find a job, a small but growing number of women are turning to manufacturing and welding jobs for a paycheck. For Anna and millions of women in manufacturing, the idea of putting on a welding mask or forging steel is a no brainer. These are high paying jobs requiring a skill that is in demand.
    Tapani and her sister Lori left jobs in corporate America to buy Wyoming Machine from their father in the early 1990s. The firm specializes in metal fabrication for a slew of companies including Fortune 500 firms.

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    According to statistics from the 2011 Administrator's Fact Book, the FAA's source of data and statistics, there were 329,000 airplane mechanics nationwide and less than 7,000, about 2 percent, were women.
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    Very cool but some of those jobs require extensive training and have considerable safety risks. If someone is suited to that sort of job.... more power to them. It's great info
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    ^^^ yes it is absolutely true that there are a slew of 'specialized' jobs for which there aren't very many applicants who are both willing and qualified. As Sophia started to point out, the reason for this is that these jobs are very demanding ...

    - personal responsibility - after receiving the required education and/or training, you will be expected to 'deliver' ... i.e. your welds better not crack, your repairs better hold, your designs better work etc. On other words, after investing the time and money to become qualified for a 'specialized' job, once you are hired if you are not actually able to 'deliver' within a fairly short time you will be drummed out of the business. No employer can risk the potential future losses ( from production losses to equipment damage to losses of life ) caused by ongoing future screw-ups.

    - personal sacrifice - a lot of these 'specialized' jobs are related to the few US industries that are actually growing ... oil, gas, mining, specialty heavy manufacturing, etc. Thus be prepared for mandatory overtime work, changing job locations quite frequently, working at locations that are rather inhospitable, being on call 24-7, etc. And indeed certain 'specialized' jobs do involve significant personal safety risks, publicized or not.

    there's no such thing as a 'free lunch'.

    PS women in general have superior hand/eye co-ordination, which makes them 'naturally' better at skills like welding !!! My own dad taught me how to weld while I was growing up, and I'm quite good at it ... but it's hot, it's dirty, and it stinks !!!

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    I heard underwater welding pays really well but the thought of doing that scares me
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    I actually did a google search just the other day for high paying jobs without a Bachelor's degree.
    Some of the careers that made the list included Small Business owner(though it did also mention that it takes a few years to count on a steady income from the enterprise.
    I was surprised to see plumber make the list, they can charge $110+/hr (depending on where you live of course).
    Yes it's true it is a dirty job, but for the right entrepreneur it could be great!
    Everyone has a toilet and pipes and hence there will always be a demand.
    The training is generally a year or so at trade or vocational school and then a year of paid apprenticeship which would include training in welding in most cases.

    After working for a big outfit for a couple of years(like Mr Rooter or another similar company), one could start taking on clients and building a small business that pays well over time.

    Of course, I am just simplifying it all. Pursuing a new career involves dedication, responsibility and hard work. Plumbing is a dirty job so it's less desirable than some other trades, but how many jobs in the real world pay more than $100/hr for labour?

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    Trades are definitely the way to go. However, you have to actually be passionate about your trade or you will fail hard & quickly. With trades, you're only as good as the work you do. Your business is literally built on your reputation for quality work and working quickly.

    And chances are, you will have to network in (just like any job these days). You will have to apprentice with someone experienced, just like you would have to intern during college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurenAus View Post
    I heard underwater welding pays really well but the thought of doing that scares me
    It's supposed to be one of the highest paid welding positions, but it is also one of the most dangerous. The life expectancy rate for an underwater welder is not high at all because of the dangers & something about the water pressure effects on the body or joints or something. Indeed something to be scared of.

    I actually have an old coworker friend of mine that dances & is in her welder intership at the moment, between both I think she's pulling something like 60 hours a week or something -crazy, right! On the brightside, starting it's $18 an hour & she's still only interning or training. Not too shabby at all. I used to tease her about the flash dance movie. Hahha!
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    Trade jobs are growing and there is expected to be a shortage in many fields. Personally if I was in my 20's again I'd forget college and go learn a trade.

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    great thread!! are there any trades that are more ..idk girly? im trying to figure something out to start pursuing for when im in my mid 30s and quit dancing but im very right-brained. i absolutely love danciing, its the only job i've been "annoyingly enthusiastic" about i wish i could do it forever. i was going to go to school for esthetician,nutritionist or even card-dealer at a casino..im in favor of trade school or other field without years of college that may very well not pay off! is there anything you could do with welding or metal work that would be artistic and still in demand??

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    great thread!! are there any trades that are more ..idk girly? im trying to figure something out to start pursuing for when im in my mid 30s and quit dancing but im very right-brained. i absolutely love danciing, its the only job i've been "annoyingly enthusiastic" about i wish i could do it forever. i was going to go to school for esthetician,nutritionist or even card-dealer at a casino..im in favor of trade school or other field without years of college that may very well not pay off! is there anything you could do with welding or metal work that would be artistic and still in demand??
    Hell yeah, card dealing, casino games, that's a trade! I noticed a popular school for that in Atlantic City. Quiet as it's kept, those folks make bank. You can always aim for dealing in the big high roller games, you could become a tech who deals with the slots, you can become a carpenter who works on sets for shows. Those stage crews are unionized and make some nice coin. I have a buddy who went to trade school to do costuming for shows and she travels the world crating and maintaining wardrobe. Even something as simple as becoming a Makeup Artist can lead to doing what Pat McGrath does--creating looks for the top fashion houses and selling your own line of cosmetics. You can run a cleaning service that specializes in professional services like those that clean clubs, theatres, etc. There's a million opportunities!
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    Not sure if I would recommend card dealing because I don't think they make that much. I suppose it depends on the casino but one of them not far from me pays very little.

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    ^^^ agree with Kellydancer that, except for 'management' level positions, licensed game operators / dealers actually get paid fairly little. Granted that the work environment is mostly great. But with IRS enforced 'tip sharing', it's rare for floor level casino workers to earn much over $30 - $35 grand a year. A welder working in a fab shop will probably earn $50 grand. But a welder on location can earn $100 grand plus ! But that location might be 20 below zero right now !

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    The numbers I've been told by people working in Vegas were good. They said as much as six figures BUT it depends on where you're working. Another city may not be as impressive but then stripping is the same way. No matter what you want to do you have to do your homework and make the choice that fits for you.
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    A new era of gratuity enters the casino workplace as casinos employ second and third-generation tipping. Some casinos allow the dealers to keep the tips earned from the shift, yet other casinos put each dealer's tips into a pool so all the dealers share the total of tips earned, splitting them equally at the end of the shift. Dealers may employ third-generation tipping when he or she compensates other workers who drive business to the table. For example, a wait staff may refer customers or seat winning players. If a dealer earns tips from those customers, he or she shares them with the wait staff, in addition to sharing tips earned if required. The dealer, who compensates those workers well, receives a constant flow of players to his or her table, builds strong interpersonal relationships, and promotes a vibrant working environment that increases job satisfaction and income potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurenAus View Post
    I heard underwater welding pays really well but the thought of doing that scares me
    I think the guy in this video is going some form of underwater work... http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a58_1356480018

    There are some cute occupational hazards under the sea....
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    That was the cutest thing. It just wanted to hang out with him and see what he was doing. I wish I had the nerve to do that. Ordinary swimming is challenging enough for me.
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    I think it is bs to share tips because this could mean someone who worked hard and someone who didn't both make the same. No incentive for either to work harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    I think it is bs to share tips because this could mean someone who worked hard and someone who didn't both make the same. No incentive for either to work harder.
    i completely agree. that's like hustling my ass off at work, and the mangers saying" all you girls gotta pool tips!" and the girls who sat in the dressing room or got drunk is making the same as me? no incentive really. i would never work in a place that pooled tips unless everyone was working very hard and the tips were amazing.
    they do it for tax purposes though.
    my sister works as a card dealer in washington and she said she made a 500 dollar tip off some dude and had to split it. i'd be rip shit. she doesn't earn that much there, but if you go to vegas or do something private i've heard you can rake in the dough ! especially poker dealers.

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    Blackjack dealer, etc at a casino, might be fun for a week or two, but taking people's money day after day has got to be depressing after awhile.... Plumbers, HVAC, anything that requires going to someone's home or business to fix is a job that can't be outsourced.

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    ^ i love taking people's money though! one of the great joys in life haha..i realize plumbers and other people who do insallations make loads of money, i know quite a few..its just hard to be really enthusiastic about it ( for me), not that i wouldn't do it if i had to because i definitely would.

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    It's supposed to be one of the highest paid welding positions, but it is also one of the most dangerous. The life expectancy rate for an underwater welder is not high at all because of the dangers & something about the water pressure effects on the body or joints or something. Indeed something to be scared of.
    I've heard that the life expectancy of electricians isn't very high either. Something about being exposed to alot of electricity over time or something.

    It too can pay quite well.

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    Manicurist pay awesome for little work. Booth rental is the best way to go. Rent a booth for 150-200 weekly. Of course you are in charge of all the overhead and its not that much if sharing a salon. My biggest expense besides booth rental was the CC machine fees. Every 3 months I would put in a 200.00 order for supplies. "Malpractice Insurance" ran a couple hundred yearly but good to have just in case someone is allergic to a product.

    Trades are awesome to have. Especially when the competition is low.
    There are a lot of nail salons but how many produce good work? Not many. If a manicurist is great at what she does ppl will flock to her.

    I know some states offer a manicuring only program, usually 300 hours but some you have to go the full cosmetology route. This license is recognized in every state as long as the state boards approve it and they do unless the person has been cited multiple times.

    That is where I will return. Easy money. Like GR said you have to be great to be successful

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    Manicurist pay awesome for little work. Booth rental is the best way to go. Rent a booth for 150-200 weekly. Of course you are in charge of all the overhead and its not that much if sharing a salon. My biggest expense besides booth rental was the CC machine fees. Every 3 months I would put in a 200.00 order for supplies. "Malpractice Insurance" ran a couple hundred yearly but good to have just in case someone is allergic to a product.

    Trades are awesome to have. Especially when the competition is low.
    There are a lot of nail salons but how many produce good work? Not many. If a manicurist is great at what she does ppl will flock to her.

    I know some states offer a manicuring only program, usually 300 hours but some you have to go the full cosmetology route. This license is recognized in every state as long as the state boards approve it and they do unless the person has been cited multiple times.

    That is where I will return. Easy money. Like GR said you have to be great to be successful
    That can be really lucrative if you are up-to-date on trends and can market yourself well. Just starting out, you may have to work for free for awhile so you can build contacts and build business. It is a lot of work. It also depends where you live. You will more likely have to work for free a lot if you live in a competitive area like LA or NY. Its all about making contacts and getting your brand name out there.

    "Crystal Wright's Hair Makeup & Fashion Styling Career Guide" is a really good book on how it all works. It doesn't talk about being a manicurist, but it does talk about hair styling, makeup artistry, and being a stylist, which are all related industries.

    But yeah, you have to be good at your craft and willing to work for free if you don't have good clients already, which you probably won't just starting out. There's a lot of competition, but if you can set your services & style apart from the rest, and are willing to work for free and put time into it, it will pay off. You also need thick skin because its a catty industry, but I'm sure all sexworkers & ex-sexworkers already have that.

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    i heard massage therapists are always busy? nails would be so much fun! i think you just have to pick a field that you are excited about and really go for it and bring something new to the table like glamour rouge said

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    When I first started doiing nails, easy money.. within 6 month I was turning clients away left and right. Maybe it is the area. I did the Bronx NY for a summer and made bank just doing hand painted designs. So there it shows its best to have a niche in the business such as hand painted art, 3d art etc. I also did a lot of competitions that placed me in magazines. It also ties in with companies advertising for you such as OPI CND and ESSIE. They will send customers to ppl who register as a nail artist or a salon that uses their products.

    I dont plan on working like I did before. 8am-10pm m-fr (money whore)

    Honestly I have never met someone who actually worked for free. I know ppl that trained w nail techs and they had to sign non compete contracts, meaning if they quit , they may as well move out of state bc by law the trainer manicurist or salon can sue them. usually the contract is for one year after quitting. I met a few Cali girls and the prices they charge where 20 for a pedi when I charge 60, 25 for a fulls set of nails and I charged 70
    Its all about location. There is a high demand in the bigger cities. Where I am from there is a high demand for quality and a unique style.

    Its easy when companies market for manicurist but most nail techs dont know the ropes and how to get in with the companies. Buy their product and register is the only thing ppl need to know.
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    That can be really lucrative if you are up-to-date on trends and can market yourself well. Just starting out, you may have to work for free for awhile so you can build contacts and build business. It is a lot of work. It also depends where you live. You will more likely have to work for free a lot if you live in a competitive area like LA or NY. Its all about making contacts and getting your brand name out there.

    "Crystal Wright's Hair Makeup & Fashion Styling Career Guide" is a really good book on how it all works. It doesn't talk about being a manicurist, but it does talk about hair styling, makeup artistry, and being a stylist, which are all related industries.

    But yeah, you have to be good at your craft and willing to work for free if you don't have good clients already, which you probably won't just starting out. There's a lot of competition, but if you can set your services & style apart from the rest, and are willing to work for free and put time into it, it will pay off. You also need thick skin because its a catty industry, but I'm sure all sexworkers & ex-sexworkers already have that.

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    Now, In my area only females do great..men suffer. Men dont want men and women dont want men. Most massage therapists I know that are successful are females.

    Both these trades can be sought out at community colleges and they will give money that TAX PAYERS PAY FOR and you don't have to pay it back.Check local community colleges. I went to a private school bc back in my time manicurist didn't need to be licensed and there was no schooling for it. I was grandfathered in on a lot of things. I went to school for 100 hours bc I had been doing nails since Highschool and the law went into effect when i was 21. Preggo, 21, baby on the way and doing manicuring school so I could take the state test. Fun Fun Fun

    massage therapist get the same opportunity as well as hairdressers. <-- Someone would piss me off and I would buzz cut them so I stayed away from that
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    i heard massage therapists are always busy? nails would be so much fun! i think you just have to pick a field that you are excited about and really go for it and bring something new to the table like glamour rouge said

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