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    Default Streamate placement !!!! smth weird happend

    OK so I have been a SM model since almost 1,5 year. When I first started I had a kinda shitty cheap walmart laptop, decent connection around 5-10mbs upload, and some older version of logitech hd cam. I did pretty decent, I was on weekly pay. My placement was anywhere from the middle to bottom of the first page. I weighted like 15 pounds more than i do now and I knew I am not in the greatest shape !!! no offence to anyone by any means, I just felt kinda insecure because my hubby stomach so I would always wear tank tops, and barely take it off, I never wanted to stand up fully and show my body, so I would only put my tanktop down to show my boobs, and turn around to show my ass routine LOL, ok so anyway a year passed I was making about 500$ a week. I always read stripperweb for advice and updates... For the whole year I was loosing weight and feeling more and more secure on cam. I saved up some money and thought of upgrading !!! I bought a brand new HP pavilion i7, updated my upload speed to 35mbs, and bought logitech c910. Well, to be honest my placement didnt change much, neither traffic, but I started to get more privates cause Of better camera and me feeling more sure about myself on cam. I started making slightly more. I upgraded in October 2012. In november I took the whole month off !!! and I did a diet, I have lost like 15 pounds !!!! YAY I was feeling like myself again, normal me !!!! I knew I look good and I got such a great self confidence.

    So in December I decided to change to DailyPay for SM and create a new SM account because at some point this year I will move out US. to Poland and I needed reliable payment processor. It took me a week to sign up. Also at that time, I told 2 of my friends abbout camming, I told them I am creating a new account now on DailyPay and I can help them to get into camming and sign them up. So the first friend "costarican" girl around 38 years old, really nice looking she is a body-builder she works out a lot ( she bought i7 logitech c910 great lightning, 25mbs upload) etc the best everything, and another friend she is canadian lives in toronto, cute nice looking girl around 24 with shitty laptop, built in camera, low upload speed. Well the canadian girl is younger and her niche would be bigger than an older body builder. I love them both cause they are my friends but I am just trying to prove smth here.

    So well all signed up, Me with a new accounts on dailypay On SM and we started at the same time. I had lot of experience and since i upgraded and felt more confident i was rocking it !!! the first month. We all did, I would watch both of them how they work and train them a little. So We all had a good placement at first, and then I was afraid after a New model tag its all gonna go downhill. And here it is both of my friends did pretty decent from a newbie !!! they were both happy but they expected better results as the time passes and they get more regulars.

    After the new model tag run out, I am still on the first 3 top rows on the first page, and its been like that since i started !!!!! lot of traffic, great $$$ great placement no problems at all !!!
    "Costarican" girl ended up on the bottom od second page" and she is lucky when 2-3 people are in her free chat (with i7 best everything ....)
    "canadian" she is on middle or bottom of first page and she is doing relatievly good.


    ?????????????????????????????????

    I have a customers account so I DO see a true placement !!!! now explain me that

    Its heartbreaking when I see my :costarican" girl with i7 she invested so much and she work like 6-7 a day and making 200-300 a week ??? she is still a newbie but really?
    I am very happy with my placement of course !!! Sm needs new faces !!! but when i upgraded when i still had a an old weekly pay account it didnt make a difference with my placement...

    U figure What I am trying to prove here !!!!

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    Well.... my first thought is that being in Costa Rica might have a negative impact on her placement... also you know, it's nice to think that "everyone" can just "make it" and start banking on cam but the hard reality of it is that not everyone makes it. Obviously she's not making as much money as you or your other friend, and income does have an impact on placement.

    I think that most of the traffic on SM is US based and it seems like US customers, for the most part, tend to skip over models from other countries. Unfortunately this means a lot of great models miss out on traffic purely because the country they are from.
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    Default Re: Streamate placement !!!! smth weird happend

    Yeah, I think Sarah is right.
    I doubt the site is giving her bad placement....her being from Costa Rica just in itself is probably what is causing people to skip over her in general
    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    America loves a success story...unless of course it's someone working in the sex industry...

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    But why is she telling custies she is from Cost Rica? If her english is good I dont see why she has to tell everybody she is not from the US...
    Im saying this cause I'm not american either and I just skip the question cause I know how xenophobics custies can be, and dont get me wrong, I understand they are sick of models lying about being american and dont speak shit of english, but if she is fluent and her nationality is harming her income I think she just needs to avoid the question and say she is not comfortable talking about it.
    "I dnt have $$$ nao bb, but I Promise Ill give ya tons of $$$ after u show bb plz plz"

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    She doesn't have to tell them but SM will have her listed as whatever country she's from so custies can tell! Someone please correct me if I'm wrong?
    Quote Originally Posted by KittyAudrey View Post
    But why is she telling custies she is from Cost Rica? If her english is good I dont see why she has to tell everybody she is not from the US...
    Im saying this cause I'm not american either and I just skip the question cause I know how xenophobics custies can be, and dont get me wrong, I understand they are sick of models lying about being american and dont speak shit of english, but if she is fluent and her nationality is harming her income I think she just needs to avoid the question and say she is not comfortable talking about it.

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    Oh I had no idea about that, I dont work on SM >_<

    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    She doesn't have to tell them but SM will have her listed as whatever country she's from so custies can tell! Someone please correct me if I'm wrong?
    "I dnt have $$$ nao bb, but I Promise Ill give ya tons of $$$ after u show bb plz plz"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    She doesn't have to tell them but SM will have her listed as whatever country she's from so custies can tell! Someone please correct me if I'm wrong?
    I think you can change the country people see based on region.
    I have the option to change my display country to the US, Canada, Mexico, UK, Ireland etc... So maybe girls is Latin America can change to other countries to? But those countries are probably limited that region....so it probably won't help much.

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    sorry girls, I have read Sarah's answer very fast, and didnt realize u girls think that costa-rican girl live in Costa Rica, no acctually she lives in Dallas TX, has verizon fios very fast upload speed, and her location is US on SM. I told her to buy great laptop, camera, get fast internet and Its gonna pay off. But well, I dont know what happend with her placement, she did ok the first month and right now, she makes sometimes like 20$ for the whole 6 hours of work !!! she speaks English fluently she is us citizen and she came here when she was very young, she still has an accent tho. So She is using encoder and I went to her apt to set everything up for her, and she has a very clear picture, I would say realllly good! I tought her how to log on and use the encoder and she has no problems with that, When i watch her from my apt everything is crystal clear, no lagging, etc. so i really dont know I am sure there is a niche for her

    just look her up, (edit)
    and she is at the bottom on second page where barelly anyone makes it !!!
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    I think the username is not something to help her, something with muscle or so would fit her better, she looks hot and there are guys that loves such a worked body. unfortunately not everyone has the chance to make good money on SM and other sites where they list country/ location. i feel this every day and its frustrating. it happened soo many times over the 12 years i cam its making me sick by now. guys that were soo much into me, having good fun in private, cam2cam and all, very happy with my show and then i open my mouth to talk and he is pufff ->gone and why? cause of my foreign accent. so everything is great but he got disturbed i am a foreigner, how frustrating can this be for me? Very frustrating and it gives u a bitter taste of human nature. yes, this is the most disturbing thing for me when working. i am afraid to open my mouth to talk thinking member will leave very fast.

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    OOOOOOOH haha sorry I thought you meant she was from Costa Rica!

    I agree with AliceFun, there are lots of guys that are into the muscular bodies, and if she had her username more closely resemble her niche she might get more of the right kind of traffic.

    I'm not sure why guys are less likely to spend on foreign models, it doesn't make much sense. Maybe they are afraid they won't speak english well? Or an accent might be distracting to them if they are wanting the model to be vocal? Or maybe guys like to spend on girls who are in their home country because it gives them more to relate with, or more of a "shot" with the girl? I don't know. Those are my guesses.
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    That shit is fucked up! You can speak English perfectly with no accent and still look a fucking beast so I don't know why those guys are being such assholes toward you. I am Asian, I have a bit of an accent which I love because it makes me special and I have never had any complaint with my accent so I am shocked to hear how you got treated. Sorry, BB!
    Quote Originally Posted by AliceFun View Post
    I think the username is not something to help her, something with muscle or so would fit her better, she looks hot and there are guys that loves such a worked body. unfortunately not everyone has the chance to make good money on SM and other sites where they list country/ location. i feel this every day and its frustrating. it happened soo many times over the 12 years i cam its making me sick by now. guys that were soo much into me, having good fun in private, cam2cam and all, very happy with my show and then i open my mouth to talk and he is pufff ->gone and why? cause of my foreign accent. so everything is great but he got disturbed i am a foreigner, how frustrating can this be for me? Very frustrating and it gives u a bitter taste of human nature. yes, this is the most disturbing thing for me when working. i am afraid to open my mouth to talk thinking member will leave very fast.

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    yea i know what you mean. I am polish, I came to USA when i was like 18 and all my friends are american and I kinda sound american sometimes, (like some words) i can pronounce correctly, but I have a slight accent when I start talking some more. And yea guys think that I am russian... but shit I am polish and its like saying to an american u are canadian, or latin america people are all mexicans. Damn, I feel you !!! yea sometimes guys hear accent they and they leave cause they have an experience with foreign models on SM who dont speak english at all and it makes them look stupid (but they not stupid, they have personalities just like everyone has) but they not they just cant express themsell, their personality, the way american girls can do, or foregin models that speak english fluently.

    ohh well, SM in the first place shouldnt hire models who dont speak ANY english,

    Well, camming industry is flooded with foreing non speaking models, no joke, but it has a terrible impact on me for example, I mean the world is so much bigger than what u see on those websites, the customers have learnt from their experience and i dont blame them !!! cause damn if i was a guy i am in prive with a girl that doesnt understand what i want or no connection ... i would run away... its sad but true,

    The way i deal with it, I just talk talk talk and i dont give a damn, so guys who acctually stay in my room are like ok she acctually has something to say, and even i have an accent the way i talk to everyone i make a connection and i make them interested and it seems to work

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    OOOOOOOH haha sorry I thought you meant she was from Costa Rica!

    I agree with AliceFun, there are lots of guys that are into the muscular bodies, and if she had her username more closely resemble her niche she might get more of the right kind of traffic.

    I'm not sure why guys are less likely to spend on foreign models, it doesn't make much sense. Maybe they are afraid they won't speak english well? Or an accent might be distracting to them if they are wanting the model to be vocal? Or maybe guys like to spend on girls who are in their home country because it gives them more to relate with, or more of a "shot" with the girl? I don't know. Those are my guesses.

    Yea Sarah, I think guys just learnt from their experience that there was no connection during private, or she didnt resond to requests, etc, we all know camming is not just about show titts show ass, but more like a connection, so thats why !!! some accents are not attractive let me tell u honestly, I am foreign myself and some accents I cannot stand, but not beacuse I dont like it but because i dont understand it what they are saying !!! so also maybe that !!! and lastly they usually charge low prices and it let the guys know she is not worth it, or smth !!!

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    My english is very good and my accent is sweet and i sound hot i was told by the members STAYING with me in pvt and saying i sound adorable. I just cant figure out about the rest, oh well... i could make soo much more if i could be myself and speak my own language or a perfect english with the perfect accent HAHAAAAA, fuck, this is soo difficult to deal with. guys dont treat me bad, they just leave w.o a word. nobody will type to me "i leave cause i dont like this and that or ur accent or the fact u not native english speaker" so i never know what they think/ feel and this is pissing me off the most.
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    also, LOL i got so into it .... there is a huge difference when u see lets say SM between foreign european an american cammodels,

    typical american camgirls- express themself their personality, treat it more like fun, hobby, give a sense of value, make a connection with the audience,

    foreign models - in private no connection, straight to the point they show what anyone can see for free on the porn site, usually sit there starte at the webcam, bla bla blahhh

    well, there is this cute russian girl her name goes (edit) or smth, i mean she is beautifull, love watching her, but many times guys dont take her seriously because of her strong accent !!! she cried many times on cam, cause guys would tell her to learn english etc, this is seriously very sad i felt bad for her, i wish i could talk to her one time and tell her a few things !!! she isreally beautifull and what??? her accent is ruining everything, i think she really doesnt realize why is that !!!
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    One question for u native english speakers, just try to imagine, would u work the same way if u were on a foreign site where the members were all german for example and u know good german but still, will u be able to perform the same way like in ur own language with ur home country members in ur room?
    Just try to picture this situation, tell me how it feels pls.

    Of course its nobody fault i am a foreigner, i am happy and proud for who i am, i just wish i could have the same chances like u guys or have a site on my own country to work on haha )

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    Streamate is based in US so most of the members are american.
    Well, there are so many immigrants in usa, and usually like the older generations they keep their culture going, they eat their own food, dress certain way etc, here is usa. Well nothing wrong with that because if american person will move abroad he wont stop being american just because he moved to asian country. U know... but usa is the only country in this world that diversity is so strong, usa is known for a country of opportunities, so everyone comes here to get a better life. What i am trying to say is that its very hard to understand someone else culture !!! and most of people are not even trying to understand, because they were raised a different way u know... Its hard to take out the old tree from a ground and move it somewhere else it wont addopt... so if custies of sm hahah hear someone talk with an accent he usually thinks that "we just dont share the same values, same views, have same favourite music for example like nothing in common, basicly nothing to talk about " so its kinda normal reaction ... i dont know where are u from in asia but If u would see someone from africa or latin america speaking ur language u would be like ok hold up....

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    i just meant it in apositive funny way of course just to give u an idea what the major factor of this really is !!!

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    Well it's the sort of the same situation for those of us who are in the US and work on Adultwork. The UK ladies generally do way better. I can go days with out even one private there. I love the site and wish I did better there, but the UK guys are gonna mostly want to cam with hosts from the UK it seems.

    I guess they feel they can relate to someone who grew up and knows the culture.

    For instance UK guys would come in my chatroom and say to me "You OK?" which is sort of like saying "How are you?" in the US

    but I took it at first as them asking me if I was sick or implying that I looked ill!! ROFL!


    There are a lot of little quirks like that they probably find with me and some of them prefer born and bred UK hosts for that reason.


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    yea, because they share the same culture means more connection, I tried a relationship with an american guy, i fall in love with him so badly, and he loved me too, but as we got to now each other there was a lot of differences and in relationship is all about connection and personality, same interests, etc.

    Speaking the same language is one thing, but learning and adopting another culture is whole another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodie View Post
    Yeah, I think Sarah is right.
    I doubt the site is giving her bad placement....her being from Costa Rica just in itself is probably what is causing people to skip over her in general

    u propably right now how hard it is for me to tell her the truth, she doesnt know very much about the tendency of this website

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    What kind of show does she do? I am also a muscular girl in Dallas; if she needs ideas to cater to that "crowd" MSG me.

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    It doesn't matter where you are from. The top Streamate performer is not American, she is from Europe. Shawn said she works 70 to 80 hours a week and makes bank. It's more about how much time and energy you put into camming. It also doesn't matter your weight because some of the BBW's kill it on many cam sites. You need good equipment, a good personality and the hunger to do well. There is a muscle performer on Streamate that is always in the top two rows on page one and she gets show after show. Your placement is based on how much you cam, I asked Liz about it. I am stuck on page two for now because I took almost a year off from Streamate. So now I have to work back up to page one.

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    There are men that look for foreign girls, they love them. Performance in a show shouldn't have anything to do with the language. It's about are you good at doing cam shows.


    Quote Originally Posted by AliceFun View Post
    One question for u native english speakers, just try to imagine, would u work the same way if u were on a foreign site where the members were all german for example and u know good german but still, will u be able to perform the same way like in ur own language with ur home country members in ur room?
    Just try to picture this situation, tell me how it feels pls.

    Of course its nobody fault i am a foreigner, i am happy and proud for who i am, i just wish i could have the same chances like u guys or have a site on my own country to work on haha )

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    Even if you're making shit? LOL
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    It doesn't matter where you are from. The top Streamate performer is not American, she is from Europe. Shawn said she works 70 to 80 hours a week and makes bank. It's more about how much time and energy you put into camming. It also doesn't matter your weight because some of the BBW's kill it on many cam sites. You need good equipment, a good personality and the hunger to do well. There is a muscle performer on Streamate that is always in the top two rows on page one and she gets show after show. Your placement is based on how much you cam, I asked Liz about it. I am stuck on page two for now because I took almost a year off from Streamate. So now I have to work back up to page one.

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