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    Default Scam guys name dropping other models - New girls, read

    Just a reminder: if a guy asks you for a free preview, or acts shady in any way, and then tells you about how he's a loyal paying customer of another model, he's probably full of shit. I just had a guy claim that he was a paying customer of a model who I happen to be friends with, and when i asked her about him she had NO IDEA WHO HE WAS.

    Guys will namedrop other models all the time to make you think you can trust them, but 99.99999% of the time, if they're doing that hile trying to get you to work for free, they're lying through their teeth.

    . [7:53:55 PM] Oraganizer Show: hi
    [7:55:24 PM] Oraganizer Show: u there?
    [8:00:29 PM] Oraganizer Show: hiiii
    [8:00:37 PM] Jaana Ruutu: Now I am..
    [8:00:40 PM] Jaana Ruutu: What can i do for you?
    [8:00:45 PM] Oraganizer Show: cam show
    [8:00:49 PM] Oraganizer Show: i need u in cam shows
    [8:01:05 PM] Jaana Ruutu: okay. it's $30 for 10 minutes
    [8:01:14 PM] Oraganizer Show: sure
    [8:01:18 PM] Oraganizer Show: paypal?
    [8:01:20 PM] Jaana Ruutu: No.
    [8:01:29 PM] Oraganizer Show: wu?
    [8:01:31 PM] Oraganizer Show: amazon?
    [8:01:44 PM] Jaana Ruutu: http://www.cammodeldirectory.com/ads...o-cum-for-you/
    [8:01:58 PM] Jaana Ruutu: There's a link on there that says 'secure creditc ard payment' or something
    [8:02:00 PM] Jaana Ruutu: click that
    [8:02:02 PM] Oraganizer Show: call me till i send u to check if u re real bec many fakes from the site?
    [8:02:45 PM] Jaana Ruutu: Excuse me, but I don't need to prove anything. i'm nominated for BEST NEWCOMER in miss Freeones 2013. Also, to even have a page on Cam Model Directory, I need to be verified by the admin
    [8:02:48 PM] Jaana Ruutu: which I am
    [8:03:54 PM] Oraganizer Show: best?
    [8:03:56 PM] Oraganizer Show: lolllll
    [8:04:06 PM] Oraganizer Show: bye
    [8:04:30 PM] Jaana Ruutu: don't believe me?
    [8:04:39 PM] Jaana Ruutu: http://miss.freeones.com/best-newcomer
    [8:04:46 PM] Oraganizer Show: i am on the site u gave me
    [8:04:52 PM] Oraganizer Show: there is *other model*
    [8:04:55 PM] Oraganizer Show: better than all lol
    [8:05:00 PM] Jaana Ruutu: Oh look! 1. Jaana Ruutu
    [8:05:13 PM] Jaana Ruutu: Yes, and I said I am nominated fore BEST NEWCOMER on miss Freeones
    [8:05:18 PM] Jaana Ruutu: which I'm currently winning
    [8:05:29 PM] Oraganizer Show: i told u i dont need show hun i only need to be sure and then gonna send u cash for the show
    [8:05:33 PM] Oraganizer Show: if u wanna just hit me upp
    [8:05:34 PM] Oraganizer Show: thanks
    [8:05:43 PM] Jaana Ruutu: I'll tell *other model* you're trying to scam me, then
    [8:05:47 PM] Jaana Ruutu: She's a friend
    [8:05:53 PM] Oraganizer Show: ok lol
    [8:05:55 PM] Oraganizer Show: i paid her
    [8:05:58 PM] Oraganizer Show: u can go ask her
    [8:06:00 PM] Jaana Ruutu: She'll block your ass the second she finds out you're trying to get me to go on cam for free
    [8:06:08 PM] Oraganizer Show: k lets see
    [8:06:09 PM] Oraganizer Show: i am not
    [8:06:12 PM] Oraganizer Show: i didnot ask for show
    [8:06:16 PM] Oraganizer Show: i wanna be sure ua re real
    [8:06:21 PM] Oraganizer Show: withotu showing ur body lol
    [8:06:26 PM] Oraganizer Show: so stfu nothing for free
    [8:06:39 PM] Jaana Ruutu: yes, and on cam model Directory, every single model is verified
    [8:06:57 PM] Oraganizer Show: what verified o.o?
    [8:07:50 PM] Oraganizer Show: ya and go ask*other model* and dont say u are the onest
    [8:07:55 PM] Oraganizer Show: gl
    [8:07:56 PM] Oraganizer Show: cya
    [8:08:26 PM] Jaana Ruutu: http://www.cammodeldirectory.com/verified/
    [8:08:28 PM] Jaana Ruutu: Learn to read
    [8:08:39 PM] Oraganizer Show: i dont need o.o
    [8:08:42 PM] Oraganizer Show: i can check the site
    [8:12:37 PM] Oraganizer Show: and even ur body sucks on site lol
    [8:13:04 PM] Jaana Ruutu: *other model* doesn't know who youa re LOL
    [8:13:15 PM] Oraganizer Show: lololo
    [8:13:18 PM] Oraganizer Show: k lol
    [8:13:18 PM] Jaana Ruutu: [8:11 PM] *other model on skype*:

    <<< Never talked to him and definitely never got paid from him lol
    [8:13:25 PM] Jaana Ruutu: FAIL
    [8:13:36 PM] Oraganizer Show: nice one lol
    [8:13:39 PM] Oraganizer Show: where is the name
    [8:13:48 PM] Jaana Ruutu: ...yeah, i proved you're full of shit
    [8:13:55 PM] Jaana Ruutu: ..dude, you ARE illiterate, aren't you
    [8:14:02 PM] Jaana Ruutu: [8:11:48 PM] *other model on skype*: Never talked to him and definitely never got paid from him lol
    [8:14:02 PM] Oraganizer Show: lololo
    [8:14:11 PM] Oraganizer Show: where is my name lol
    [8:14:28 PM] Jaana Ruutu: ...I copied and pasted our entire conversation
    [8:14:32 PM] Jaana Ruutu: and that was her response
    [8:14:41 PM] Jaana Ruutu: Would you like me to copy and past ethe entire copy paste?
    [8:14:56 PM] Oraganizer Show: idc lol idc about u i already got better girls than u
    [8:15:03 PM] Jaana Ruutu: *copy and paste the conversation we had literally 3 minutes ago*
    [8:15:08 PM] Oraganizer Show: so the world willnot end for u
    [8:15:08 PM] Jaana Ruutu: There, see?
    [8:15:44 PM] Jaana Ruutu: Well, you illiterate fuckbag, if you have "better girls" thanme, then stop asking me for free shit and go the fuck away, okay? You're wasting my time
    [8:16:19 PM] Oraganizer Show: u fuck off lol
    [8:16:21 PM] Oraganizer Show: cya

    See what he tried to do? He tried to get me to trust him by name dropping. this is a common scam tactic, and if you're new I can see how this may sway you to get on cam for free. Hopefully this little encouter helps you.

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    Default Re: Scam guys name dropping other models - New girls, read

    Had him today, blocked him after a minute and 5 lines of text from him.

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    Default Re: Scam guys name dropping other models - New girls, read

    Quote Originally Posted by Vlodina View Post
    Had him today, blocked him after a minute and 5 lines of text from him.
    LOL. I guess he's making the rounds.

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    Uugh! I hate when guys pull this routine! There's a small circle of camgirls on my site and we're all cool but guys are always pulling this. One guy tried it on me and of course, I contacted the girl mentioned (via Twitter) and let her know who he was and what he was saying. She said she hadn't dealt with him in a long while but he certainly wasn't a spender and was definitely annoying. We made a pact to block him, together. Lol! So yeah, the moral of the story is: always check in with your fellow camgirls! Don't be so intimidated by your colleagues that you find yourself getting bullied into pushing your own boundaries or getting cheated out of services. It never hurts to just holler at a camgirl and see what's up.

    I was kind of hesitant to DM this girl, at the time, because I didn't want to come off as aggressive or competitive over some supid custy but in the end, I'm so glad I did. She was way cool about it and now we're totally cam-buddies and look out for each other. I'll always take a camgirl's word over a custy's, these days.
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    Default Re: Scam guys name dropping other models - New girls, read

    Honestly I couldn't care less who they know or who they paid. I have guys that dropped thousands on me but act stingy and annoying with a friend of mine and viceversa!!! They can take their fake or real referrals and go fuck themselves if they don't dish out money lol

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    I haven't encountered this specific scam, but I've certainly encountered the "such and such other girl does *preposterous T.O.S. violating thing* all the time, you should too" guys. I usually just say, "Well if you want that so badly, go to her for it," and ban them. There is a certain type of male, not just in camming but in the outside world as well, that loves to try to play divide and conquer with women. I will have none of that shit.
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    Default Re: Scam guys name dropping other models - New girls, read

    Quote Originally Posted by vivianbear View Post
    So yeah, the moral of the story is: always check in with your fellow camgirls! Don't be so intimidated by your colleagues that you find yourself getting bullied into pushing your own boundaries or getting cheated out of services. It never hurts to just holler at a camgirl and see what's up.
    I compeletely agree. We are in this together. I know that I'd be open to any camgirl asking me my opinion on a past customer and I've asked other girls in the past their opinion on a shared custie.

    Having each other's backs by sharing knowledge about current scams is what protects us all as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrightAndClaire View Post
    I haven't encountered this specific scam, but I've certainly encountered the "such and such other girl does *preposterous T.O.S. violating thing* all the time, you should too" guys. I usually just say, "Well if you want that so badly, go to her for it," and ban them. There is a certain type of male, not just in camming but in the outside world as well, that loves to try to play divide and conquer with women. I will have none of that shit.
    I always say, "Well if you really care about her, than I'd suggest to her that she really should read her contract again. She sounds so awesome that I know you'd never want her to lose her job over something like this."

    *smirks*

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    Glad you saw through him.

    I get tempted to do independent again sometimes but that conversation reminds me of why i quit. I just cannot tolerate the stupidity and the back and forth trying to get them to pay, waiting for payments to clear, wondering if there will be chargebacks. ack!


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    There's no need to talk to them for so long. They get about 5 min with me, if that. Block, move on. Unless I'm bored and want to fuck with them. �� But yes... I block about 90% of guys who hit me up. Bunch of wanks mostly!

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    I think new girls should also be aware that you don't need to spend this long with a customer, arguing, & not getting paid.

    I don't see how it's relevant whether or not he's spent money on any other model. I've watched customers drop $50 tips all over the place on some models while they always leave my paid chat before being charged.

    Thank you for the warning though.

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    I just wanted to make an example of him. Normallu he would've been blocked as soon as he refused to read, but I knew what he was trying to do so i wanted to use this as a chance to educate newbies. I'M ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR THE LITTLE PEOPLE!

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    I get that he was a dick, bit not sure what Freeones has to do with it. I'm in the Miss Freeones contest too and anyone can use that link without it being us. There are shady guys out there, but sadly there are also shady cam models and scam artists. I know so many fellow cam performers that had people faking to be them on Skype and took guys for a lot of money. I have a site for camming only where I post images, links to my social media sites, all the sites I cam on and I plan to post a clothed sample video. Usually that's enough for guys looking for shows.

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    That's not always true! I had a guy on MFC with over 200,000 reward points in my room trying to get a show with me, but he kept name-dropping big MFC names (completely true, too, I checked him out). I didn't like his attitude; I declined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    I get that he was a dick, bit not sure what Freeones has to do with it. I'm in the Miss Freeones contest too and anyone can use that link without it being us. There are shady guys out there, but sadly there are also shady cam models and scam artists. I know so many fellow cam performers that had people faking to be them on Skype and took guys for a lot of money. I have a site for camming only where I post images, links to my social media sites, all the sites I cam on and I plan to post a clothed sample video. Usually that's enough for guys looking for shows.
    I will never ever ever ever in a million years do a free Skype call on the grounds of giving a "preview" or "face check". Indie Skype shows are a big part of my income. I'm on several indie listing websites, and I have verified status on all of them. I linked him to my Miss FO page since it's the same picture I have as my Skype avatar. Notice how I also linked him to the page on Cammodeldirectory where it explains the verification process. When a guy wants a free call on Skype, it usually goes like this Either:

    1. *call starts, guy shoves dick into canera, you end call*
    Guy: DID U SEE MY DICK?? WUT DID U THINK OF MY DICK BB?
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    Guy: wow bb
    *i hang up*
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    All of the guys that contact me on Skype have had access to at least 5 pictures in the ad, plus the hundreds on my website, plus links for all of my video blogs. This hold true for almost every indie cam girl i know. We're not dumb, we know guys need to know what they're getting - which is what all of the verification, pictures, and links are for. Giving a guy any kind of preview etc is dumb, and it's giving the customer power over you. I don't want anyone to have power over me. I'm in charge. It's my job.

    Had to edit this. My cell phone turned my post into Engrish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    I think new girls should also be aware that you don't need to spend this long with a customer, arguing, & not getting paid.

    I don't see how it's relevant whether or not he's spent money on any other model. I've watched customers drop $50 tips all over the place on some models while they always leave my paid chat before being charged.

    Thank you for the warning though.
    I agree with this. If you know he isn't going to pay just block him. It isn't worth the hassle of arguing and engaging for nothing. Just time and energy wasted.
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    Never ceases to amaze me he lengths to which these asshats will go to get a free peek. Had one guy contact me in skype after i had gotten back on cam4. he was [email protected] as his user on skype. he started spouting rules that i was breaking etc. i was trying to sell vids on skype cuz they dont have a platform on their website. anyway, he said they did in fact have a platform, but it had to go thru the admins... lol, then gold members could get access, blah, blah bullshit. He even sent me an email on cam4 letterhead that could have passed for real. But his email was [email protected] or some shit. anyway, i knew better, but if i had been a lil greener it might have worked. gotta b so careful. when in doubt, just say no...

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    Annoying guy: I want to see you is real first bb
    Me: I want to see your money is real first bb
    Annoying guy: I will pay after seeing you first bb
    Me: I will unblock you after showing me your money first bb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlodina View Post
    There's no need to talk to them for so long. They get about 5 min with me, if that. Block, move on. Unless I'm bored and want to fuck with them. �� But yes... I block about 90% of guys who hit me up. Bunch of wanks mostly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by justanothercamgirl View Post
    90%?

    Jinkies! Women, I admire the fuck out of you. You have the patience of a saint!
    It's true. I don't know where they come from but I have the same block ratio she does. They all want to pay with PP and they all want a free preview, even though every site I'm on, and probably every site she's on, has a verification process and also has something posted about Paypal being against the rules. these dudes don't give a shit.

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    Lately, at the same time as I add a skype request, I'm thinking that I'll be blocking him in a couple of minutes! I'm a bit pessimistic... I don't let them bother me and they are not wasting my time to be honest, as I'm always on AW at the same time without freeview (waiting for groups and privates), and pottering about doing other things too. When I get genuine guys wanting Skype shows, that's just a bonus. Hey, on camsites, 90% of them aren't going to pay you either!

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    OMG, that douchebag took up 23 minutes of your time. I would've blocked his ass the moment he said "Lol...bye" at your comment about winning 'Best Newcomer'. That, plus the fact that before he even made that comment, he asked about PayPal and Western Union. I'm pretty sure both of those methods are very bad for cam girls. With WU, I believe you have to provide the sender with your real name and city/state of your local WU location where you will pick up your money. And I don't think you just give a "stage name," because I believe when you got pick up your money, they ask to see your photo ID.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrownFox View Post
    OMG, that douchebag took up 23 minutes of your time. I would've blocked his ass the moment he said "Lol...bye" at your comment about winning 'Best Newcomer'. That, plus the fact that before he even made that comment, he asked about PayPal and Western Union. I'm pretty sure both of those methods are very bad for cam girls. With WU, I believe you have to provide the sender with your real name and city/state of your local WU location where you will pick up your money. And I don't think you just give a "stage name," because I believe when you got pick up your money, they ask to see your photo ID.
    It's not like I was sitting there intently waiting for his reply. I had Niteflirt open and was brainstorming clip ideas.
    And yeah, WU is a horrid idea for cam girls. They do ask for ID and you do need to give him the city you're in.

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    [QUOTE=Jaana;2460921]I will never ever ever ever in a million years do a free Skype call on the grounds of giving a "preview" or "face check". Indie Skype shows are a big part of my income. I'm on several indie listing websites, and I have verified status on all of them. I linked him to my Miss FO page since it's the same picture I have as my Skype avatar. Notice how I also linked him to the page on Cammodeldirectory where it explains the verification process. When a guy wants a free call on Skype, it usually goes like this Either:


    This is why i love this site!!!! ive been doin skype shows for a year and ive always done my "brief preview" say their name so they know im real... i had an ad at cammodeldirectory, then he changed his policies, but since im not taking pp anymore ill sign back up! no more previews with these assclowns, becuz its really about 1 in 100 that ever get the show... i just thought all girls did it...
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