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    Hey there. My name is Adam and I have a possibly unique situation. I was wondering if someone out there could help me with it. I will admit I'm not very well educated on exactly how it works on a cam girl's end of things, so I apologize if I offend anyone with this post - feel free to correct me and I'll know better for next time.

    I enjoy talking to cam girls online, just talking and developing friendships. I've been doing this on LiveJasmin for a while and I've met a few really nice girls that I enjoy talking to, but I'm a 22 year old programming student and I can't really afford the $1.99 a minute long term. I really do just want someone to talk to - no nudity involved, or even necessarily a webcam. I get and respect the need to keep things private, and wouldn't expect any personal details. I'm not looking to develop a romantic relationship with anyone. I would just like someone to talk to maybe two or three times a week for a half hour to an hour at a time, about random things - work, family, things on the news. Nothing too serious and nothing more than she is willing to share on her end.

    Does anyone know where I can find a girl willing to do this over AIM or MSN? Is there anyone here that would be willing? (I don't know if it's all right to ask here, but I figured I'd give it a shot.) Just IMing, without voice or webcam. If so, would the price be different from a show? I'm sure someone will say that there are girls out there that I could be friends with for free - and this is true. I'm friends with several girls online that I talk to, but it's not the same somehow. I don't really understand my motivation for wanting this myself, but there it is.

    Thanks for taking the time to read my post! Hope you're all having a great day.

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    Also, I apparently accidentally marked myself as female when I signed up! Guess I wasn't paying attention... Anyone know if there's a way to change that?

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    talk to a girl you like about a 'half hour rate' probably on her (fake, for the purpose) skype or other account.

    pay her in advance for 2 or 3 sessions...let her know you're serious.

    You're risking the $ for a couple sessions, she's risking you'll push the line and that she could make money on the other (main site) when with you

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    Yes, one site I know have this specific setup:

    http://www.adultwork.com/DirectIM/

    or you can book independent models and ask them how much to chat without audio or webcam. Id say most will say the pricing is the same**, same may not. There are a few guys who I regularly chat with who I do on Skype without audio or video but they pay be a fee to do this. I know of a few other models who have guys like this, so it isnt too bizarre or unique of an interest? How much youre willing to pay though may be a hurdle to who you successfully negotiate with - probably best to just be direct about what youre looking for as early on as possible.

    **For the ones I see they know we can only chat on off hours or when Im not live (or would be paid a normal fee per minute), as in, Im mostly done for the day. So I cant/wont alter my bigger pay per min (with audio and cam) schedule to chat with them via text... so you may run into that as well or the pricing is the same for audio/video. Some who have a more flexible schedule will endure this uncertainty of when Ill be free, the ones who cant will just pay the normal fees even without audio/video sent. It may be tough to find performers willing to go offline for a low fee when they could ordinarily be working for more or their usual rates? But if you dont want to deal with all of the negotiation, check out the link above. There may be other sites that do that... but they arent coming to mind at the moment.

    I think http://www.adultwork.com/DirectIM/ is probably your best bet. Info on it:

    What is DirectIM?

    Now you can have instant messaging style sessions for as long as you like, without having to book or buy MSN/Yahoo sessions from other areas of the Site, and without having to use your own instant messaging program!

    DirectIM is a cut down version of DirectCam, the real-time webcam and chat application that allows you to cam with service providers directly and where credits are deducted depending on the duration of your session. DirectIM is simply text-based chat without accompanying video.
    Hope that makes sense?

    Best of luck!





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    Quote Originally Posted by pinups4 View Post
    talk to a girl you like about a 'half hour rate' probably on her (fake, for the purpose) skype or other account.

    pay her in advance for 2 or 3 sessions...let her know you're serious.

    You're risking the $ for a couple sessions, she's risking you'll push the line and that she could make money on the other (main site) when with you
    paid chat through messenger services is pretty common, while one would need to pay up front for that day's chat time there really is no need to pay for multiple sessions upfront unless the OP and the chica prefer it that way

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    For the ones I see they know we can only chat on off hours or when Im not live (or would be paid a normal fee per minute), as in, Im mostly done for the day. So I cant/wont alter my bigger pay per min (with audio and cam) schedule to chat with them via text... so you may run into that as well or the pricing is the same for audio/video. Some who have a more flexible schedule will endure this uncertainty of when Ill be free, the ones who cant will just pay the normal fees even without audio/video sent. It may be tough to find performers willing to go offline for a low fee when they could ordinarily be working for more or their usual rates? But if you dont want to deal with all of the negotiation, check out the link above. There may be other sites that do that... but they arent coming to mind at the moment.

    I think is probably your best bet
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    To the OP, your situation isn't all that unusual, just understand that cam chicas won't enter into an arrangement with you if they end up losing out on higher amounts of $$$$$ they could be earning elsewhere. What cam girls are compensated for is time and for one-on-one interaction, not for 'sex'.

    I think you'll find it difficult to find a chica (both on aw or independent, note that aw credits are in GBP) willing to spend 2-3 hours per week text chatting with you for less than phone rates (which tend to run at lowest $1.50-$2.00 USD per min). There's nothing suspect about what you're looking for so don't anticipate chicas being wary of your proposal, just understand the value inherent to what you are seeking and be prepared to pay for it accordingly

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    Love, I understand that you are looking for simple companionship, but you're looking for companionship with women who get paid more to spend their time with other clients. More power to you if you can find some skype arrangement, but women who sell themselves short is very sad.

    Some men simply cannot afford a beautiful woman's attention.

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    From my (admittedly cynical) experience as a cam girl and from what you've told us, I would guess that you're looking for a very slow romance to develop. You want a cam girl because you want to talk to someone you find attractive. You're hoping that we'll tell you where you can find a girl who will (sooner or later) not charge you. You two will become friends, then you'll fall in love, then one day you'll meet and spend the rest of your lives together.

    Cam models, like people on reality TV shows, are not here to make friends. We love when we get people who we actually like as people, but this is our job. We are here to make money. It is *extremely* unlikely that a cam girl will ever stop charging you. If she does, she'll slowly stop talking to you, because she'll resent the time she spends with you when she could be earning. If she hints that she'll stop charging you, but never does, she's just milking you for more money and will stop seeing you as soon as you insist you're not paying any more.

    Why not save some money, cut some time and angst and seek out people who are actually looking for the same connection that you are?

    I bet you that if you put out ah honest personal ad or start looking through pen pal boards you'll find someone who is more than willing to chat with you for free. Spell it all out in your ad. You're not looking for romance (right away), you want a friend to talk to on the phone. I'd do a google search for, "platonic pen pal" or "phone pen pal" or "looking for friends" If all you want is regular, friendly chat, there are lots of places to go. Meetup.com has a lot of local groups where people of varying interests meet and talk. You could even do something like Christianmingle.com. Ladies there would more than appreciate someone "being a gentleman" and not wanting to talk sex or romance. You might even get to go to church! Hell, if you're genuinely not looking to meet, you could even take part in prison outreach and speak to incarcerated ladies. Some of them are very nice victims of very shitty pasts.

    Just remember there are scammers out there. Don't send any of these nice ladies money to fix their car or come visit you or whatever. If you must help, buy her a plane ticket or send the money to the car dealership directly.

    *And I know that I just stomped all over everything you said in your post, but I just kinda don't believe you. You say you don't understand why you want this. Examine your motivations. What's missing? Is it that you want pretty girls to talk to you for free/cheap? Is there some kind of illusion you have about service providers?


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    I totally get why you would be cynical, but I actually do not want a romance to develop. I have no interest in "falling in love" with a girl I meet this way. I know there are plenty of places where I can meet girls for free and develop a relationship over time with them, but I definitely don't want to talk for free - paying is one of the main things I like about the idea. I would never expect a girl I was talking to to stop charging me, nor would I want her to - that would be taking advantage. I just thought there was a potential for discounted prices if the whole webcam aspect was taken away, so I thought I would ask. The reason I'm not continuing on LiveJasmin is 1) I'm a poor college student and thought there may be more affordable places to look, and 2) I got the feeling a lot of girls on there weren't too thrilled with the whole talking thing (would rather be making money doing what their actual job is, which I understand). I wouldn't feel comfortable ever meeting a girl I met this way in person, both for her safety and for mine. I guess I just like the idea of having a beautiful, interesting girl to talk to a few times a week, and paying her for it. I don't know, I can see how that wouldn't quite make sense, but it's what I'm looking for.

    As for having a girl talk to me on her off hours (when she doesn't have other, bigger spenders waiting), that would be fine with me. I wouldn't want to keep her from getting business. I'll check out DirectIM and see if maybe there's someone there that I could talk to. Thanks to all of you who've responded so far - I appreciate it.

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    Lets put it this way:
    You get your degree and get a job that pay you a bit. Then someone wanders in and wants you to do the job / exert your attention at a fraction of the rate . How excited would you be about this person?
    ^ Thinking about this a little may help you figure out why no one has responded to your offer.

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    If you aren't looking for a girl to necessarily take her clothes off or even use webcam then maybe just a normal chat room would be a good idea for you. That way you would be able to find someone to talk to without worrying about not being able to afford cam girls. And, you wouldn't be wasting their time (i.e. them thinking you will become a regular etc).
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    IM me. I have tons of friends like you to chat to at a fair price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenswift22 View Post
    I definitely don't want to talk for free - paying is one of the main things I like about the idea. I would never expect a girl I was talking to to stop charging me, nor would I want her to - that would be taking advantage. I just thought there was a potential for discounted prices if the whole webcam aspect was taken away, so I thought I would ask.
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    I guess I just like the idea of having a beautiful, interesting girl to talk to
    My freeloader senses are going off the charts on this one. Time is money.

    There seems to be alot of freeloading hardship cases. Every guy thinks they're the exception or their reason for doing so is noble and not exploiting. As if.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deaddolly View Post
    There seems to be alot of freeloading hardship cases. Every guy thinks they're the exception or their reason for doing so is noble and not exploiting. As if.
    It's not so much they think themselves "noble" as it is the value of what they are asking for. If all they want is text chat, then there is no reason they should pay the same rate as a webcam session because they are getting less (no nudity, or even video for that matter).
    It's the same as doing a phone session without webcam. Those rates are generally cheaper (1.99 a minute on average).
    Honestly I don't know why he doesn't just hit up Niteflirt, find a model that has a webcam listing with positive feedback (so he knows she's real), and then hit her up on Yahoo. Very often Niteflirt PSOs have Yahoo/AIM/Skype/etc IDs available for purchase.
    Bottom line, you would have better luck with a PSO site rather than a Webcam-dominated site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FasaCorp View Post
    It's not so much they think themselves "noble" as it is the value of what they are asking for. If all they want is text chat, then there is no reason they should pay the same rate as a webcam session because they are getting less (no nudity, or even video for that matter).
    It's the same as doing a phone session without webcam. Those rates are generally cheaper (1.99 a minute on average).
    Honestly I don't know why he doesn't just hit up Niteflirt, find a model that has a webcam listing with positive feedback (so he knows she's real), and then hit her up on Yahoo. Very often Niteflirt PSOs have Yahoo/AIM/Skype/etc IDs available for purchase.
    Bottom line, you would have better luck with a PSO site rather than a Webcam-dominated site.
    Or you can go on MGF where it's half way between a social network and a camsite. I got tons of guys paying me for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FasaCorp View Post
    It's not so much they think themselves "noble" as it is the value of what they are asking for. If all they want is text chat, then there is no reason they should pay the same rate as a webcam session because they are getting less (no nudity, or even video for that matter).
    It's the same as doing a phone session without webcam. Those rates are generally cheaper (1.99 a minute on average).
    Honestly I don't know why he doesn't just hit up Niteflirt, find a model that has a webcam listing with positive feedback (so he knows she's real), and then hit her up on Yahoo. Very often Niteflirt PSOs have Yahoo/AIM/Skype/etc IDs available for purchase.
    Bottom line, you would have better luck with a PSO site rather than a Webcam-dominated site.
    I was being sarcastic. I don't think they find it noble find it noble. I just find it selfish. Plus I enjoy being somewhat of a jerk when it comes to this topic. From my point of view it reeks of timewaster. A cam girl can make much more money camming than participating in a draining conversation for chump change. It's much more easier to keep people entertained when they're watching you. And give attention to only paying customers. Than have to actively keep up with a ongoing conversation that the girl might not even be interested in. Since once again time is money.

    Besides most of these guys interested in friendships usually think they shouldn't have to pay down the road 99% of the time.

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    This isn't the place to negotiate a rate for Cam or Talk...

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    @Greenswift Thanks for being honest with me and with yourself. I appreciate that, especially in this field!

    There are plenty of places one can go to talk with a girl while paying for it. The thing to note is that most sites give us only a small percentage of what the per minute rate is (Streamate gives 35%, for example), so most women will be charging what they can to make a living wage on that (particularly considering that we're only spending 40-50% of our time in paid chat). Phone or text will be cheaper because more people can do that (Women who can't show their faces, people who aren't the women in the pictures) and because, for those who also do cam, it requires a bit less set up than cam (slower internet, no makeup, no lights).

    For the women you spoke to on LJ who seemed less than enthused to talk, that's odd. If you were paying them the rate they usually get and they're comfortable with English (or practicing English) and you were easy enough for them to hear and understand, that's not a problem. Unless, perhaps, the questions you were asking them were making them uncomfortable? We generally don't like to talk about, "why do you do this" and "tell me about your real life (hobbies, boyfriend, where you live)" because A) that's not on offer here and B) that's what stalkers ask and yes they're dangerous and yes we do get them. LOL, and yes, I know you said you didn't ask them about stuff like that, but you never know. We're very skittish people. Sometimes things that seem innocuous aren't to us. OH! Or, if you're paying the "new girl" rates on LJ, the girls might have just been new and not understood a client who didn't want to see them jackhammer their shit, like everyone else on those sites does.

    Since you want to pay and since all you want is chat you might want to look into the "friends only" or "girlfriends" or "non nude" sections. I think LJ has one...and there are probably other sites that do too? Mygirlfund.com has a text/phone program. Niteflirt.com is all about phone and has some cams. myfreeimplants.com has a lot of women who are just normal women, not models, so they have very low rates. Extralunchmoney has a wide variety of services offered from a wide variety of people http://www.extralunchmoney.com/user/...ser=IsobelWren If you join, use my link? Similarly, adultwork.com (UK based) has lots of different services from different people.
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    @FasaCorp I see what you're saying, but for us, regardless of what service he's getting, it's the same amount of time. Our image/voice and our time is what we're selling. If I've got all my listings open (both phone and cam) and I spend an hour online, my time is used regardless of whether I made 50% of 1.99 on Niteflirt or 35% of 5.99 on Streamate.


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    I guess we need to change description?

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