.....
.....
Last edited by CanadianRuby; 06-20-2013 at 11:28 AM. Reason: Delete please



Hi there. I think I may have directed you over here, from tumblr.
Regarding screening, here's how I do it: I require at least one reference from another escort (but most experienced hobbyists send two or three, which is good because a lot of girls unfortunately don't respond to reference checks (I hear back from about one out of every three usually)). I'm familiar with most of the actively working women in my city from lurking on the message boards. If the reference is some girl I've never heard of I google her and make sure she's an actual escort. And I ask to know the client's board handle if they have one. There are two main review boards in my city and almost everyone who contacts me has written at least a review or two. I of course look at their reviews and other things they've posted to make sure they seem respectful, and also check to see if the ladies they've reviewed responded to the reviews. I also sometimes send a private message to the reviewed ladies, especially if they didn't respond to his review if it was recent and he didn't include them as a reference, in case there's a reason for those things. If I can't verify their references or I don't like the way they write on the boards or in their emails to me, I don't see them.
I really doubt that many potential clients will be willing to give you their real name. I don't know why they would hesitate to give your their board handles though, that seems weird. Maybe you should actually get started and try it before you give up on that type of screening as a possibility. BTW, I pretty much hate most of the hobbyists who are super active on the boards, and luckily for me most of them don't even try to see me. 95% of my clients are mostly quiet on the boards, they've only written a few reviews probably primarily to verify themselves and make the screening process smoother for future dates.
.....
Last edited by CanadianRuby; 06-20-2013 at 11:26 AM. Reason: delete please
Incalls are generally left alone, so long as you're very discreet about it. I hate the idea of someone coming to your home though, that's asking for disaster and really makes me worry about your safety and privacy. I brought up feeling more secure doing incalls to an outcall agency owner once and she pointed out to me that with an outcall, at least I have either their address or their real name if anything ever were to happen. For incalls, many women use a second apartment/condo or a hotel. Also, don't forget to use a check-in/check-out text message with a friend who knows where you are! (If you don't have anyone, PM me.)
Unfortunately, in Canada there isn't much screening that is done; that's more of an American thing to avoid LE. The Internet Escort's Handbook 2 is helpful, but not for screening. You have every right to ask a client for their real name, if that's what makes you feel comfortable: I don't have a problem asking for it when it comes to outcalls and it's rarely been an issue. I don't understand what additional security a board handle would give you? Just because someone can post something on the internet... References are always the best way, but that's not typically how it's done here. (Not to say you can't, just that it's not as common.)
Another thing... in Canada, BBBJ is pretty standard, especially in Toronto/Ontario. Some/many agencies don't bother working with women because the demand for SGFE just isn't that big here with so many GFE ladies to choose from. I'm not saying you absolutely must do it; just trying to tell you it will definitely be a sticking-point with many/most clients. You get to set your comfort level and stick to your guns, but maybe have an answer prepared in response in inquiries. Greek isn't considered standard and on occasion is even an upcharge... although that's changing too.
BackPage doesn't generate the nicest clients, I'd steer FAR clear of it. Try advertising via boards and Eros, maybe RedZone (not the greatest clients, but still better than BP).
And yeah, sometimes the boards are brutal (terb, sp411, merb, perb), but caerf and cerb tend to be a little more friendly. It's the nature of the beast here.
Wow this was a little depressing to type out. Feel free to send me a PM if you have any questions, I'm always happy to help![]()
Toronto-based, very rough draft, constantly asking for input!
Our bodies, our rules.
Stand together or fall apart.
.....
Last edited by CanadianRuby; 06-20-2013 at 11:26 AM. Reason: Delete please
.....
Last edited by CanadianRuby; 06-20-2013 at 11:28 AM. Reason: Delete please
I saw your reply to mine in the other thread too, so I'll answer them both here with a link back to it.
About BBBJs: the risk is considered to be very, very low for most incurable diseases (herpes being the obvious exception). PERB.ca has an ask-a-public-health-nurse section and there's a lot of information about it online. Try to look for studies instead of articles, if I have time I'll find the links on my other hard-drive for you tomorrow. Unfortunately, BBBJ has become a reality of the Canadian industry. It's up to everyone, including clients, to determine their own risk level, and most Canadian gentlemen and sex workers seem to have decided it's an acceptable risk for them. I'm not saying you can't be successful as an SGFE, but the market is much, much smaller. The chance of long-term consequences is low and I don't think you'll experience pressure from clients to go from CBJ to BBBJ in person as much as you'd just not be booked. Ultimately, it's your body and your rules: if you've done your research about it and it's not in your comfort zone then absolutely do not make the decision to do it for financial pressures.
With regards to screening, you sound like you read something I posted recently. I think that reluctance is stupid and I've never had a problem with a client giving his name and phone number. References get a little trickier: girls don't always give them, they may not have seen someone before, etc. I'd drop Spokeo/safeoffice from that list of websites and add preferred411. References just aren't something that are done as much here; again, back to the industry standard BBBJ thing.
I take real names and phone numbers, Google them and then preferred411/reference check, although not everyone has P411/references. You can usually get a feeling from emails as well as to who will be a problem client (not same-day appointments, volunteer information willingly, communicate in a clear and responsible manner, etc). Even with a reference, good can become bad. In my experience (not that I've ever had a bad experience TBH), I'd say most bad clients are first-timers, don't have long established board handles and haven't seen anyone else.
There's also a few regional blacklists/bad client lists, depending on where you are. Every appointment entails some level of risk, and there are things you can do to minimize it, but it doesn't disappear and references aren't a guarantee of it at all. If you're not satisfied with Canada's methods, set your own! There's no one saying you can't.
Some board guys that post a lot won't see women who ask for references or some kind of assurance, but there are also a LOT of guys who don't post a lot, and a lot of people who don't spend time on the boards at all. They're a good resource but not always accurate. I've never had an issue with it; I'd say guys offer more information than I ask for most of the time.
Yeah, some girls are catty. Some girls are not. I'd say more are NOT catty, and building those relationships is in your best interests. What area are you in? Maybe I can hook you up with some I know (PM).
---------------------------------------
As an aside...
I can see how you think the men dictate the industry and it makes me really sad that you think that. It's your choice to offer your time and attention or not. Always yours! Every person brings what they're comfortable with to the table, but it's not like someone is forcing you to meet with them. Clients don't own the industry and they aren't in control of the market for you because you are the determinant of the supply for you. Yes, there are other providers willing to do things differently and that definitely impacts your business because the clients can make other choice, but you always, Always, ALWAYS have the ultimate choice for yourself. The truth is neither party is in control of the overall market, but each is in control of their individual one.
Also, I know you're frustrated, but I totally disagree with your characterization of clients. They're not all paying for something they couldn't otherwise get; there's a whole range of people who do this for a whole range of reasons. To have that mindset is a recipe for burnout FAST! Escorting is a give-and-take and ideally both parties leave feeling like they got the better deal.
Toronto-based, very rough draft, constantly asking for input!
Our bodies, our rules.
Stand together or fall apart.
Delete please
Last edited by CanadianRuby; 06-20-2013 at 11:27 AM. Reason: .....
Bookmarks