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    Default I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    What is up with the hosts that charge 1 for a goldshow and then touch themselves when they are half naked in freechat?
    Really? Like do you honestly disrespect yourself that much that you don't value yourself at more than a dollar for a 5-20min goldshow then have to give most of it away for free?

    Its really sad.. I'm sorry Im not one to say stuff like this but wow, just.. wow.

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    That is their problem.

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    To be fair, I don't think it's that they disrespect themselves. They probably just figure that method will entice more guys to tip. But I think what ends up happening is that when the Gold show buy-in is only a dollar, it makes it even harder to get to the Gold show goal of $200 or $250. And then the 'tits out when we get to 50 Gold' thing...well, it seems like guys stop tipping when that happens, and now they're jerking off to the sexy tits on their screen. It's not how I would do things, honestly, but I'm not gonna knock other girls for how they choose to price their shows.

    If the $1 Gold show thing makes you this mad, you must get furious when you see the models who are naked in free chat with their legs open with a dildo covering their pussy.

    It always makes me smile when I see models doing the $1/minute thing (like $5 Gold for 5 minutes, or $6 Gold for 6 minutes, etc.) without needing to throw in tons of incentives. You'd think the Gold show itself would be incentive enough, considering how much more an exclusive or premium would cost.
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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    Meh.. They do it because they think it'll bring more money in. And, sometimes, for some girls, at some times, it actually does. That's why they do it.

    I can't shed light on girls who charge $1 for 5 - 20 mins, (my shows are never usually longer than 6 mins max). But in total honesty, in my experience, most of my most successful GOLD shows were the times when I stripped fully naked around the "1 min and 30 secs left" mark, sometimes even earlier, and already started masturbating like hell (with my pussy out of view) before the countdown ended.

    I've done this before when I knew I'd get the show, and that hustle massively helped string along the guys who hadn't tipped enough to get a look at what they would be missing out on. It worked for me. Incentives like "5 more tips for bra off" have also helped massively at times. If someone wanted to call me "sad" or whatever, whilst I'm working my hustle, I wouldn't even be able to hear them over the sound of all the tips.

    Yes, I've done these things before, and they have failed on their ass, lmao. It happened to me last night, in fact. I had a GOLD show hustle that I put a lot of energy into, miserably fail. That happens to every camgirl. I can imagine all the other girls who were watching me were face-palming like "WTF were you doing all that shit for!? OMG #newlow" And even so, to any of the girls who would want to hate on me for how I work my room, I'd love to see their faces all the times I've done things that way before and made bank.

    I'm assuming this is true for the girls who do seemingly insane things on cam that make you roll your eyes.. Hustling on cam is mad. And sometimes illogical. And never formulaic. It all depends on the guys you have in your room, what they want, and what makes them tip. You can never really know from one night to the next, just how well your tricks will work. It can be something of a magical mystery sometimes, lol. As long as what you're doing is getting you money, I figure that's what's really important. This topic is as old as probably camming itself, and will probably always exist. Don't worry about them.. Just make sure you are making enough to make you happy. x





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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrownFox View Post
    To be fair, I don't think it's that they disrespect themselves.
    ^^^word

    I know where you're coming from, OP, but at the same time I'll never understand the perspective that if one does something for x amount they don't respect themselves, but if they do it for 4 times x amount they do. Smart chicas charge what the market will bear at any given moment...that can and does change from site to site, and from hour to hour on the same site. Self worth and price per min are two totally different animals

    it's all relative and the end goal for everyone is to get $$$$. However a chica does it successfully while staying within her own comfort level and the rules of the site isn't for me to judge.


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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    To each its own. If a bitch wants to fuck herself silly and raw for $1, she can go ahead and knock herself out!

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    Quote Originally Posted by webcamcutie View Post
    What is up with the hosts that charge 1 for a goldshow and then touch themselves when they are half naked in freechat?
    Really? Like do you honestly disrespect yourself that much that you don't value yourself at more than a dollar for a 5-20min goldshow then have to give most of it away for free?

    Its really sad.. I'm sorry Im not one to say stuff like this but wow, just.. wow.
    I don't think that they are disrepecting themselves. It is just their hustle. For all we know they could be rolling in the cash and that is what works for them.

    It isn't my hustle.....but you have to realize that they wouldn't do it if there wasn't a payoff for them in some way. They won't be camgirls for long if they don't make enough money to pay the bills.
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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    The only thing I worry about is these guys who are so spoiled now by the bargain shows. Looking back, the tide shifted on SM when Gold Shows were introduced.

    I'm not saying this is bad or good - for some it worked out f'n great. But I think my income on SM started a suspicious decline right around the same time.....

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    Respect is a very subjective. We each have our own hustle. You have to understand that there are cam models in much different situations than you. She could be hustling to get whatever she can just to pay her rent, light bill, etc. Some girls like to get to the bottom line. Either way the clothes come off no matter what road you take to get there.

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    What's up with models going in other hosts' room and then getting upset over "their" hustle? lol

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    I feel like I focus better on my own hustle when I don't worry about someone else's.

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    ^^ I try to just disregard the nonsense I see in other chatrooms, but if everyone just whipped it out for nothing, no one would make money.

    IDK, in a way it's none of my business, but on the other hand it's supply/demand, so it is my business.

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    There are already millions of girls whipping it out for nothing all over the internet via pre-recorded videos.

    Paying guys who visit camsites want one-on-one wank interaction, specifically, which is why they choose camsites over tube sites. They can see what these hated girls do in free chat aaaaaaaaaaany time they want, so I still don't see them getting that special treatment when girls are getting off in free chat.




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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    It's a futile line of reasoning for me. What am I supposed to do about it? Models have whipped it out before gold shows and on MFC for a while. I also see girls who are still making money. I never have and never will offer gold shows, it's just really not my hustle. Also, I've finally learned not to put all my eggs in one basket. I don't think it's fair to say that anyone disrespects themselves because of their hustling style.

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    I don't think they are disrespecting themselves at all. They are just doing what they feel they need to do to make money. To be honest some ppl would still think we're disrespecting ourselves just because we're on cam naked and masturbating no matter how much we're making.

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabunny View Post
    What's up with models going in other hosts' room and then getting upset over "their" hustle? lol

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    I kinda of get what you're saying....
    But girls giving it away for free/cheap/girls with no knowledge of simple econmomics can KILL the site and the site culture...
    Look what happened to gold shows for example... When they first came out girls were getting HUGE goals for sitting and smiling at the camera....then came a slow day and a girl made it cheaper...that worked for awhile...then came another slow day,...girls got more and more desperate..
    Ever hear of a vicious cycle?

    That being said...
    Ill admit sometimes I have done $1 gold show for 5 minutes...usually I do $5 for 7 mins...sometimes I do $20 for 7 minutes...
    Some of my biggest gold shows $$ wise have been $1 gold shows where guys get into tipping wars or just want to make it happen...but I would never do a $1 gold show without hitting $150.
    Cheap gold shows can increase your $ and fanbase if you use them properly...not doing them as the norm.

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    I noticed this host that is always on the top of the page and charging $3.00 for a gold show and I am four or five rows down charging $5.00. But she has much more people then I do so she reaches her goal. I can't see myself charging $3.00 for a gold show unless I have a certain amount of people in my room and they pledge my goal.

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    The self-respecting part is a private issue. I won't even attempt to go there. That truly *is* none of my business.

    I have always kept an eye on what others are doing mostly because I am curious but also because I want to see how the "job market" is.

    OP, I can relate to your frustration. Sometimes an observation in the moment can really set me off, too.

    As another poster said in another thread, this is a safe place to vent (it should be), so I support you.

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    I just feel like people need to focus on themselves...its been said over and over again...everyone does what works for them, who are we to judge?...there's always gonna be free porn, and girls diddling away for free...that hasn't stopped any of us from logging on





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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbeth View Post
    I kinda of get what you're saying....
    But girls giving it away for free/cheap/girls with no knowledge of simple econmomics can KILL the site and the site culture...
    Look what happened to gold shows for example... When they first came out girls were getting HUGE goals for sitting and smiling at the camera....then came a slow day and a girl made it cheaper...that worked for awhile...then came another slow day,...girls got more and more desperate..
    Ever hear of a vicious cycle?

    That being said...
    Ill admit sometimes I have done $1 gold show for 5 minutes...usually I do $5 for 7 mins...sometimes I do $20 for 7 minutes...
    Some of my biggest gold shows $$ wise have been $1 gold shows where guys get into tipping wars or just want to make it happen...but I would never do a $1 gold show without hitting $150.
    Cheap gold shows can increase your $ and fanbase if you use them properly...not doing them as the norm.
    Yes, totally. #PreachOn

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    Quote Originally Posted by Missbeth View Post
    I kinda of get what you're saying....
    But girls giving it away for free/cheap/girls with no knowledge of simple econmomics can KILL the site and the site culture...
    Look what happened to gold shows for example... When they first came out girls were getting HUGE goals for sitting and smiling at the camera....then came a slow day and a girl made it cheaper...that worked for awhile...then came another slow day,...girls got more and more desperate..
    Ever hear of a vicious cycle?

    That being said...
    Ill admit sometimes I have done $1 gold show for 5 minutes...usually I do $5 for 7 mins...sometimes I do $20 for 7 minutes...
    Some of my biggest gold shows $$ wise have been $1 gold shows where guys get into tipping wars or just want to make it happen...but I would never do a $1 gold show without hitting $150.
    Cheap gold shows can increase your $ and fanbase if you use them properly...not doing them as the norm.
    My no toys or masturbation gold shows don't suffer despite what other girls are giving away for free.
    *shrugs*

    Can't say I've noticed a vicious cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABigNerd View Post
    Lately, I kind of wish the site would tell me when models are doing an almost free show. I'd like to send the begging assholes her way. It can work if you have 100+ people in your room. If you generally only have 10 people in your room, it's probably not a great way to make quick money.
    That's kind of what I meant, a top host at that, with plenty of time left on the counter, almost like the show had just started, and not 100's of people in their chat.

    I understand everyone has their own hustle, I'm not anyone to judge, by any means, maybe using the words disrespecting themselves was the improper way of getting my point across.

    As for trolling or "worrying about other people," We all do it, we all snoop or spy, I am by no means really concerned at what other models do to hustle or make their money, it just makes me smh sometimes and it was a simple comment or current vent cause I really don't understand it, but, to each their own.

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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    There is a huge barrier for me regarding Gold shows, i just cant do it, i tried GS when i had the option after they introduced the feature and failed miserably and this because of the way i had to hustle to get people to pledge, i felt very uncomfortable to sell myself like that, i know i need to believe in what i am doing and be content with myself regarding this line of work, if i push this barrier in order to make money i'll feel shit and could not continue camming anymore.
    Thats just me, everyone is different but i dont like how SM changed, site culture changed in my disadvantage.
    Many top models gave up on SM after GS were introduced, i remember quite a number that were on the 1st page and had great traffic and back2 back privates then business died for them so they quit; Its SAD indeed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceFun View Post
    Many top models gave up on SM after GS were introduced, i remember quite a number that were on the 1st page and had great traffic and back2 back privates then business died for them so they quit; Its SAD indeed...
    I know it's sad but its pretty much the natural way of it. This is business, and every area of business is always changing no matter if you are a cam girl or a retail store owner. I see it as survival of the fittest. Sink or swim. Does it suck for some? Yah, but that's how it works. Businesses "close doors" all the time if they can't keep up, can't compete.

    In terms of offering cheap shows... I do get frustrated at times when I see girls doing this but I know that they must be doing it for a reason. It works for them or they wouldn't do it. It's worked for me, too. I have done my share of $1 shows that have brought in some serious cash... And I've done extreme teasing that kept the tips rolling in. It's all about knowing when and how to use this type of tactic. Getting a feel for your room and traffic from one moment to the next so you can determine what type of show will work at any given time is a huge part of becoming successful at camming.
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    Default Re: I hate to do this but I really just gotta ask...

    Honestly I've learned not to care. I watch other models all the time but I don't really judge them(or at least not anymore). If a model wants to be naked or half naked, touch/dildo herself in freechat, and charge $1 or no $'s for doing it then that's all on her. SM isn't going to do anything about it....so it really makes no sense to get upset over it.

    I may watch other models but its more for fun and curiosity. It doesn't take my attention off of or away from my own room, $$, or hustle. Like seriously getting all bent outta shape because of another model isn't going to pay my bills. Worrying about it will just take me outta my zone and make me loose $$ and my sense of self. Nooooooooooooo Thank you.

    Guys can come in my room all they want and say well this model does this and that but I'ma still be like "bish I do not care" and continue not to give 2 fucks. I'm not changing my hustle for 1 person or because other models do this and that. I'm still making money with my hustle so I see no point in changing it. An that's probably how those models feel.

    In general I've come to realize that complaining doesn't really do anything but get you upset. If I realize that certain things just aren't going to change then I just shrug it off like "ummmm whatever" and "I guess".
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