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    Default Sugardaddying 101: First conversation

    Hey ladies! I know that online sugardaddying is said to be a dead industry, but it sorta fits my repertoire at the moment. I'm considering this my trial run at learning how to sweet-talk men, I guess.

    So I put up a picture and I've been getting a couple of messages daily, and I'd like to respond, but I'm not sure what to say. Or rather, how to phrase my words to tactfully communicate my intent and my wants. In fact, I'm not sure what my wants are, or if I should aim higher. I've read here that the SA guys are basically just looking for cheap escorts.

    Firstly, I have to overcome my reluctance to consider myself a sugarbaby - I don't believe myself to be attractive enough, which is my first pitfall. And well, I just don't consider myself to be a sexy minx personality-wise - I'm an e-geek, for fuck's sake. I can be sexy for boyfriends, but it's different for older men who want arm candy. I've read that sugarbabying is a lot like an alter ego for most girls, and that'd definitely be my case.

    I've chatted with and met guys on OkCupid before, but this is another ballgame entirely. I guess I'm basically asking for someone to outline what the initial message should be like, just as a guide.

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    Default Re: Sugardaddying 101: First conversation

    You'll likely have better luck posting this in 'Other Work' instead of 'Camming Connection.' There's also quite a few how-to threads in there that explain how to go about weeding through online SD websites. Basically, you're right that the first thing you have to do is gain some confidence. If you don't believe you're worth the money you're asking for, neither will the SD. Otherwise, it's a matter of being clear about what you're looking for and sifting through lots of time wasters.

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    Default Re: Sugardaddying 101: First conversation

    Whoops, thanks!

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    I tried the whole sugardaddy/sugarbaby thing. I went on sites such as seekingarangement, and there was this 1 where u could create giftlists too and men could buy for you. Anyway it was a waste of time because there are THOUSANDS of girls on those sugarbaby sites that are all willing to meet and probably fuck the guys in realtime. Therefore the guys have no interest in spending on an online-only girl. I tried it on mygirlfund too, all I got were dick pics and guys who thought I was "so much better than the other girls on here cause ur not selling nudes" but "if i had money id love to be ur sugardaddy but im broke right now". I gave up. Getting a sugardaddy in the camming world in my honest opinion comes only by accident and not by seeking it.

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    Also 90% of the girls on SA are really hot models. Why would the guys settle for a less than average when they have that much money to throw around? No offense or anything, don't mean to knock your confidence. But i think you might want to google 'financial domination?' instead. the guys there just want mean moneygrabbers with average to none looks.

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    Default Re: Sugardaddying 101: First conversation

    Are we still talking about in-person sugardaddying?

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    Default Re: Sugardaddying 101: First conversation

    There are a zillion threads on this in OW. Online sugardaddying is dead. Just tell a guy what you want, and if he's serious he will agree and pay you for meeting for dinner for your first meeting.

    You may be getting a lot of messages and think "great! so many interested sugardaddies!" but the reality is that 90% of them are broke men posing as sugardaddies hoping to string you along for awhile in person until you realize you'll never get any cash from them. Another 9.5% are men who will be like "great! for an weekend trip i'll pay you $400 " and then they expect sex. And maaaaaybe another 0.5% are real ones who've been on the site from before it got flooded with media attention, but the amount of time you'll spend weeding out the broke "sugardaddies" and the discount-escort-chasers will heavily outweigh any benefits because you could be spending that time dancing or camming or escorting or hanging out at expensive places where men with money hang out.

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    Default Re: Sugardaddying 101: First conversation

    Sorry, I'd misposted this the first time and it's now on OW. So I guess I should name a price before we meet?

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    First, it's really hard to Sugarbaby in Miami because the guys are so jaded and most girls are whores here. I'm not against whores I'm just being honest. If you're really young you can get away with not having sex.

    As far as asking for money, a real sugardaddy doesn't have to be asked. He is already offering money and gifts. Rich men aren't stupid. They know they old or ugly and they need to spend to get you to spend time with them. Or they might pay because they're married or too busy to be in a real relationship. And don't think you're tricking them out of money. It's probably chump change to them or even a tax write off.

    Ok...so first you need a job. And if you don't have one make one up. So when the SD asks you out you should always be working. You're too busy because you have to work. If he doesn't offer to give you money to skip work move on immediately. Waitressing in a strip club is a great way to meet SD. And you can play the role of "I'm innocent cuz I'm only a waitress not a stripper". Plus you can meet thirsty guys who like th challenge of getting someone unattainable.

    You can also when a potential SD asks for your number say you don't have a phone and you live with your parents so you can't give it out. If he doesn't immediately offer to take you to get a phone so he can call you then don't waste your time. An okay SD will take you to Metro PCS. A good one will take you to AT&T and get you an IPhone. Even if he offers a Metro take it. But then don't ever answer his calls. He's cheap. So now you can use this phone as you hotline for your SD's.

    Ok... Now when you to on th date make it a day date like at Starbucks. Don't drink alcohol or go to dinner or any type of night date. Drive your own car. Take a taxi or get a ride. Do not get in the guys car. Keep it short and sweet like an hour maybe. Don't talk about yourself. Ask him alot of questions. He will really fall in love because men love to feel important. Laugh at everything he says and smile. You don't even have to be listening. Try to get alot of information though because this will help you figure out what potential he has for you to earn from. Too often you may think you need to impress him. You don't. You must make him feel important by being a good listener and acting like he is fascinating. Then he will want to spend money on cam you because how you make him feel. Also you will make the relationship an emotional instead of sexual hence the ability to lead him on and get money.

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    Default Re: Sugardaddying 101: First conversation

    Yeah, I imagined it would be difficult in this city. But I'm still hopeful. Thanks for the inside info! Have you done this before/how many times?

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    Phone died. Okay continuing...

    Soooo you must have your goals that you want to accomplish. Write it down somewhere, like a diary or on a piece of paper and put it in your underwear drawer. So maybe you want tuition, a car or a boob job. Write it down. Getting tuition isn't easy because most SD won't give you money for things to better yourself. They want to keep you a whore. But it can be accomplished. Or maybe you can get gifts and sell them. There's different levels of SD.

    1. The SD who likes to buy purses, shoes, clothes. He thinks this is what women like. Wants to make sure you look right when you're with him. Probably pays with a credit card because its tax deductible for him. I'm personally never impressed by these guys because to me clothes don't hold any value. But you can use these items to make yourself look better and this will help you attract a better SD because you look like you are used to nice things. Although some SD like a simple girl because they can fix them up and have a Pretty Woman fantasy.

    2. The SD who gives cold hard cash. Maybe a drug dealer or into something illegal. Maybe a business owner who deals in cash. I love these guys because they make thousands so its nothing to peel you off a couple of c-notes. Just be careful to not take too much advantage because he could be dangerous.

    3. The SD who lives out of the country or only likes to go to dinner. I love a SD who lives out of the country. They just transfer money into your account. And you only have to see them a few times a year. This will probably end abruptly when his wife finds out...ya he has a wife back home. And the dinner SD...you will probably want to stab yourself in the ears from boredom listening to him talk about himself and gouge your eyes out while watching him eat. Try not to get too drunk at dinner because you might Accidently sleep with him. Alcohol makes the time go by easier. And a bonus is while you're on the date with him you may potentially meet a new SD at the nice places he takes you so have cards in your purse to discreetly slip someone on your way to the bathroom.

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    Now...in reference to your looks. You don't have to be attractive to be a sugarbaby. Do good looks help? Sure. But to successfully gold dig brains are most important. The richest women are not usually the most attractive. But they were smart and they trapped a rich man with their brains and now they're rich! Some are even lesbians and don't like men. But married for security. Or he's gay too. Oh honey...so many different ways to make money.

    And do I have experience? 20 years so far. I married for love this time but next time it will be for money. And I pity my next victim because I will be very rich! And cold and heartless. For now I'm building my fortune with my hubby. It's coming a little slower but I love him and my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeenageAnnie View Post
    Also 90% of the girls on SA are really hot models. Why would the guys settle for a less than average when they have that much money to throw around? No offense or anything, don't mean to knock your confidence. But i think you might want to google 'financial domination?' instead. the guys there just want mean moneygrabbers with average to none looks.
    You can't ever think that men are only going to want to spend their time on the uber-pretty girls. Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder and a lot of guys are just looking for a girl next door type. I would argue that as long as you're slim with a young face -- you're in the top tier to be picked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babybunny View Post
    Now...in reference to your looks. You don't have to be attractive to be a sugarbaby. Do good looks help? Sure. But to successfully gold dig brains are most important. The richest women are not usually the most attractive. But they were smart and they trapped a rich man with their brains and now they're rich! Some are even lesbians and don't like men. But married for security. Or he's gay too. Oh honey...so many different ways to make money.

    And do I have experience? 20 years so far. I married for love this time but next time it will be for money. And I pity my next victim because I will be very rich! And cold and heartless. For now I'm building my fortune with my hubby. It's coming a little slower but I love him and my life.
    Good advice!!

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    If you're giving up the pussy the guy is in control. You can only demand things before and until you are fucking.

    So, if you want to be a real sugarbaby always play like you're not ready to fuck but the nice shit he's doing for you then maybe you're close to.

    If you're going to fuck, be a real escort and set your prices high and kick them to the curb when the session is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babybunny View Post
    If you're giving up the pussy the guy is in control. You can only demand things before and until you are fucking.

    So, if you want to be a real sugarbaby always play like you're not ready to fuck but the nice shit he's doing for you then maybe you're close to.

    If you're going to fuck, be a real escort and set your prices high and kick them to the curb when the session is done.
    This is all making so much sense now. Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    Good advice!!
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    This is all making so much sense now. Thank you!
    I know. She sounds legit. Heeding the heck out of this advice

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    Default Re: Sugardaddying 101: First conversation

    I'd really like this q answered though - should I straight up state a price for any first date before we move our conversation beyond online messages?

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    I wouldn't straight up set a price for a date but I would ask him for money for "something" I needed like a car/house/school payment. Whatever amount you feel you should get before the date so he knows what to bring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikk View Post
    I wouldn't straight up set a price for a date but I would ask him for money for "something" I needed like a car/house/school payment. Whatever amount you feel you should get before the date so he knows what to bring.
    Maybe I should give it a name. "SD personal verification fee"

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    I just requested a potential SD to verify he's a real SD since there are so many fakes on SA dot com. Told him to buy something off my wishlist to prove he's ready to spoil this princess. Waiting on his response. But I figured it's good way to help screen, even if you don't want to go on a date in end, at least you end up with something from an email on those sites.
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    I guess I didn't read the thread all the way. U met him on a site so hell yea u can tell him u expect money for a date. Just tell him the amount you want. Afterall that's what he's there for.

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