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    I don't normally do this type of hustling but my club seems to be running pretty dry lately and since this situation presented itself I am thinking it might be worth a shot.

    So I met this very old man a couple weeks ago at work. He bought one VIP from me. He was very clingy after this- several times for the rest of the night he approached me when I was talking to other customers and kept trying to get me to spend more time with him. I ended up being semi rude to him and assumed I would never see him again. I think he might be a bit senile actually, based on his forgetfullness and general confusion about situations. Then the next week, he was in the club again and was very happy to see me. He said he could only spend $50 on me because he had come in specifically to see this other girl and had onl brought enough money to do a champagne room with her plus the $50 - he had left his credit card at home, so annoying! But I just did two dances for him, during which I told him I had missed him and blah blah blah, and he told me that he had been contemplating suicide and I meant soo much to him for being so nice to him. He said he wanted to come back to see me to do a CR next time, so I put my number in his phone. He called me a few days later and left a message saying he missed and loved me. So I called him back today and we talked for a couple mintues. I found out he doesn't live in my city but he comes to visit about once a month. He kept saying how depressed he was and how happy I made him and that I was the first girl to ever call to see how he was doing. He asked me if it was ok if he called me once a week.

    I'm wondering if this is worth pursuing. I know he hasn't spent real money on me yet, but I feel the situation could be made lucrative if I play it right. Because he is emotionally unstable and very lonely, I am thinking I could try a sort of sugar daddy thing with him. His junk doesn't work anymore, so sex is entirely eliminated from the picture. Plus he lives far away, so I wouldn't be obligated to see him often. If I stroke his ego enough with phone calls, what is the chance of getting real money out of him? Is this a waste of him? Thoughts?

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    I think its probably a waste of time. I feel like custies like this try and make you feel sorry for them so maybe they can get you to spend time with them for free because you feel bad for them. If he had real money he would've spent more to begin with and not try to tell you his problems in order for you to spend time with him cause we all know $$ means they don't need to do all that talking. He already has your phone number now so maybe see if on the off chance he is actually talking about something or if not needs to kick rocks.

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    Yeah, I don't think he is trying to get me to feel sorry for him, I just don't think he realizes how pathetic he is. But that is a valid point- he has only spent a few hundred dollars on me thus far, and if the only other other money I'm going to get out him is one lousy CR then it's not worth the time of keeping contact with him.

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    One of my friends had a customer like this. He would come in every night to see her and get ONE lapdance. If she didn't spend time with him, he would try to make her feel bad because he 'took care of her'. She was able to get some jewelery and a USED car out of him, but he was too much maintainance to keep dealing with. He still came in every night to see her though. She ended up only dancing for him if it was dead i the club.

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    There's some good advice here.
    I would tell him something next time you talk on the phone something like, "hey baby, I know you want me to look pretty for you when you come in. Would you mind sending a giftcard to Victoria's Secret to my email, or else bringing in a gift card to me next time you see me?" That way you can see if he's going to be worth your while.
    Until he puts up more champagne room or gift card money though, keep the conversations really short and don't get sucked in. Keep your boundaries up and make it clear that if he really likes you he needs to show you money love.
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    He doesn't sound worth the OTC contact effort. Frankly, he doesn't sound worth much ITC effort either. He's lonely and clingy and doesn't seem to really understand the parameters of the strip club (or he does and is just trying what he can get away with).

    Next time he calls, don't answer the phone and send him a text shortly after saying you're super busy with work/school/kids/whatever you have/say you have going on, and that you can't wait to see him at the club next time. Readjust your strategy based on how he acts next time in the club - if he only gives you $50, no more OTC contact; if he gets a VIP, text reply to phone calls and keep it focused on the club; if he spends more, it may be worth keeping in greater touch OTC.

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    Even if he's not doing it intentionally don't let him suck you into giving him lots of free time ITC/OTC. Especially because it's quite an emotional drain listening to his depressing talk about suicide. I've fallen into the trap of thinking a custie will spend on me because he has told me how much he likes me etc... but unless he puts his money where his mouth is it's not worth the time.

    Like Shanna says short n sweet texts asking him to see you in the club. When he's in the club talking to you, gentle direct the conversation towards VIP, if he's telling you about how depressing his life is tell him you'd love to spend some private time with him in VIP to make him feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiendishGyrator View Post
    There's some good advice here.
    I would tell him something next time you talk on the phone something like, "hey baby, I know you want me to look pretty for you when you come in. Would you mind sending a giftcard to Victoria's Secret to my email, or else bringing in a gift card to me next time you see me?" That way you can see if he's going to be worth your while.
    Until he puts up more champagne room or gift card money though, keep the conversations really short and don't get sucked in. Keep your boundaries up and make it clear that if he really likes you he needs to show you money love.
    That's a good idea to ask for a gift card. I'm not used to asking for gifts or having much contact with customers OTC at all, I will give that a try and see the response. If he delivers, then cool. Otherwise yes, he is too much work to spend much more time on.

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    Keep in mind, these are also the sorts of customers who will consume all of your emotional energy. Sure, you might make $100 off of him here and there...but is that worth the energy depletion when you could be using that energy to make more money on more promising leads? You're already feeling sorry for him and giving him pity gestures (like putting your number in his phone)...it will only get worse! And then once you decide to leave him in the dust, these guys are the ones who will keep coming into the club and bugging you no matter how many times you 'break up' with them.

    These customers can be worth it in the depths of recessions or during super super super slow periods in the club...when those extra $40 from superclingy regulars actually make a significant "worth it!" difference in your takehome money. You're the only one who knows if it's worth it for you or not!

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    Hmm well no, I don't feel sorry for him; I gave him my number in order to coordinate him buying a CR from me next time he sees me. I personally don't really have regulars and I keep my normal life very separate from work life, for the very reason that they wear me out and it isn't normally worth the extra effort. And yes, this also turned out to be a waste of time. The second time I spoke on the phone with him he told me he doesn't have a computer so he can't send me anything... He also doesn't know how to text. So yeah, over it.

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    ^ Good for you babe!

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    Eewww I hate guys like this. Like really do they think there lame game will work. .

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    This thread made me ill. I am an empath/ and totally can not hustle elderly suicidal people. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. No offense OP . I think you could make more money by just keeping it in the club by giving him dances and selling vip to him minus trying hustle him out of the club. Its bad karma trying gain from someone so emotionally dead that are considering suicide. You do not have to be heartless to make in this business. I notice a couple times I hustled people I probably shouldn't have or used mind games etc, my money would take a beating and gulit would set in. When stop doing that my esteem was better and the money probably tripled. I just stopped working that angle and only go for sales of dances and vip. No hustle required if you just selling your services and look good. No bullshitting required! That what stripping is.When you manipulate people it is something different.Just my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pizzedoff View Post
    This thread made me ill. I am an empath/ and totally can not hustle elderly suicidal people. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. No offense OP . I think you could make more money by just keeping it in the club by giving him dances and selling vip to him minus trying hustle him out of the club. Its bad karma trying gain from someone so emotionally dead that are considering suicide. You do not have to be heartless to make in this business. I notice a couple times I hustled people I probably shouldn't have or used mind games etc, my money would take a beating and gulit would set in. When stop doing that my esteem was better and the money probably tripled. I just stopped working that angle and only go for sales of dances and vip. No hustle required if you just selling your services and look good. No bullshitting required! That what stripping is.When you manipulate people it is something different.Just my two cents.
    No what was ill was this old freeloader was trying to use the "pathetic old person senile card" to get free attention/interaction and waste the OP's time.

    I think selling services, good looks, and bullshitting is required. They're grown men and know deep down it's a fantasy they also know how much money they have in their bank accounts. If it brightens their day to spend time with their favorite dancer/camgirl what's there to feel guilty about. I never feel sorry for these fuckers under any circumstances. Because when they walk in SC most of them are hoping for a sexual experience/girlfriend but will settle for a good LD.lol

    I'm would use all three skills to the best of ability.

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    Deaddolly, I was just offering my advice from my own experience. I just stick to my job of looking pretty and selling dances /vip and keep it strictly in the club. I don't try to get to know anyone outside of the club or anything like that. I do not like power play games like this, or vampire mentality from the angle of the dancer or a customer. I have been dancing 8 yrs straight and a few yrs of and back at it a couple years now. I am consistent in my earnings not providing extras or out of the club contact. I make more than those that do in this shitty economy. I must be doing something right. I don't resort to manipulating people and It works for me. I hope your style works for you and it earns you the maximum potentials you are capable of. To each their own. Do not think barking your views will change my perception for you to justify for what I don't think is right. But we all have our own views,and We all have our own stradegy.

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    If you are angered by these type of customers if they don't want a vip or dance I don't get sucked into. I make the choice to walk away onto the next sale.

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    Ouch. Someone's out for blood. If you noticed I only referred to myself in my post and how I would respond in that situation. Yet you managed to use the terms "vampire mentality", "manipulative", "powerplay", "extras" all in the negative sense. As well as address me directly by my SN.

    Quote Originally Posted by pizzedoff View Post
    I don't resort to manipulating people and It works for me. I hope your style works for you
    Ouch again.

    Quote Originally Posted by pizzedoff View Post
    I do not like power play games like this, or vampire mentality from the angle of the dancer or a customer.
    Meh don't really care what you like.

    Quote Originally Posted by pizzedoff View Post
    Do not think barking your views will change my perception for you to justify for what I don't think is right. But we all have our own views,and We all have our own stradegy.
    LOL. Honestly I don't give a fuck about your perception as to what I do. I don't owe anyone an explanation for anything I do or feel the need to "justify" myself in any way. Your own personal morals are of no concern to me. Also I don't like the use of imperative sentences (sentences that state a command) it always comes off rude. I also refrain from using second person as well as that is also rude. But since you have addressed me directly my post would not make much since if I didn't use it.

    I wasn't even talking to you really just responding to how I FEEL regarding that train of thought. I am a domme so I thought others might enjoy reading my POV that's why I love SW and reading others thoughts even if it's not a view I share myself it's all very interesting.

    But no hard feelings. I'm just a straight up jerk it doesn't hurt my conscious in any way. I'm also a natural dominant in my personal life so this kind of thinking comes easy to me. I love power exchange. I'm proud of my bullshitting skills. It's not for everyone. No. But I was just having some fun and not trying to "bark" at you as you put in any way. If anything I was barking at these types of customers that take advantage of a girl's time. Camming/dancing is adult business not a dating/therapy mixer. If someone tries to take advantage of me I'm going to make sure I get what I want out of it as well. But I wouldn't just hustle anyone. BDSM does have etiquette after all. IF one is familiar with it. Besides some guys seek out girls like me.

    Quote Originally Posted by pizzedoff View Post
    If you are angered by these type of customers if they don't want a vip or dance I don't get sucked into. I make the choice to walk away onto the next sale.
    Of course. I think this scenario was a bad example since it was obvious it wasn't going anywhere from the start.


    Quote Originally Posted by pizzedoff View Post
    I am consistent in my earnings not providing extras or out of the club contact. I make more than those that do in this shitty economy. I must be doing something right.
    Quote Originally Posted by pizzedoff View Post
    I just stick to my job of looking pretty and selling dances /vip and keep it strictly in the club. I don't try to get to know anyone outside of the club or anything like that.
    *Handclaps* But yeah get it girl. I'm glad you're doing well in this "shitty economy" not doing "extras" and "looking good" while you do it. I don't know what else to say but besides your screen name fits you.

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    lol, "DEad DOLLY !I cant imagine such a powerful person going by "dolly. pshhh haha. hardcore

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    piss off dome lol

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    exactly foxy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pizzedoff View Post
    lol, "DEad DOLLY !I cant imagine such a powerful person going by "dolly. pshhh haha. hardcore
    Screen names are subjective. I am also a goth so it makes sense. To judge someone by their screen name is really quite dense.

    Quote Originally Posted by foxxyredd33 View Post
    I read through this thread and will respond to the title of the thread. 'Hustling a Lonely Old Man - Advice?' just sounds like bad karma to me.
    My post was referring to BDSM and timewasters more than anything and not really the topic at hand but some can't seem to comprehend.

    Quote Originally Posted by pizzedoff View Post
    piss off dome lol
    Nah. I just don't take s*** or direct hits. You addressed me directly when I said nothing about you. And you've addressed me again. So backlash is expected. Btw I think you meant *domme

    I'm done. Have a nice day.

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    Stop fighting, y'all. It be the interwebz. No one gives a shit. Smile and move on.


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    It sounds like this 80 year old guy who comes into a club one of my friends works at. Granted the guy lost his wife but he also recently had his drivers license taken away because he got a dui at 82 and the judge didn't want him driving anymore so he takes the bus to the club, hang outs on dayshift and now 1 of the dayshift girls and her mom have figured out a way to move into his house rent free and drive his car and now Ive heard that theyre dealing marijuana from his house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiendishGyrator View Post
    There's some good advice here.
    I would tell him something next time you talk on the phone something like, "hey baby, I know you want me to look pretty for you when you come in. Would you mind sending a giftcard to Victoria's Secret to my email, or else bringing in a gift card to me next time you see me?" That way you can see if he's going to be worth your while.
    Until he puts up more champagne room or gift card money though, keep the conversations really short and don't get sucked in. Keep your boundaries up and make it clear that if he really likes you he needs to show you money love.
    Definitely do this.
    It's the easiest way for you to determine whether all of the emotional energy you'll be investing in him is worth it.
    Keep in mind he *is* old so make it easy for him by going to the store before hand & picking out a few things.
    Have it put on hold & tell him what store/name you went to.
    In a sweet way, tell him he needs to get it by a certain time or they won't hold in any longer.
    If he comes to your club without it I'd cut him off.
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