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    Default My dad can't claim me on his tax report

    I am a 21 year old college student living with parents and a younger brother. My dad tried to file his tax return to claim me and my brother. He hasn't worked in 7 years. Today his accountant called him telling him that I report my tax or the tax return was denied. I danced at the club sometime. Could it be the club claiming me? I didn't receive any documents. The accountant gave me the IRS # to call them. HELP!!!

    UPDATE APRIL 1st:
    My club has confirmed that they did not sent out 1099 out this year. They stopped 2 years ago. So I'm hoping the IRS denied my father because of some other reasons. I'm really freaked out!! My parents accountant RE-filed by paper since the IRS rejected online. All I did this year was deposited alittle bit of money to my bank account to pay for my credit card bills. Anyone have any idea what's going on? I called IRS and they said my parents CAN claim me this year even though I'm a PART-TIME STUDENT 22 years old with NO INCOME.
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    key question ... have you gone through some sort of 'emancipation' procedure ( which would involve a low level court ) ? If you haven't, then since you are A. a full time college student, and B. under the age of 24, then by definition you are still a dependent of your parents. This would mean that the accountant hasn't structured things correctly. To the best of my knowledge your father should be able to file his own tax return claiming you as a dependent. But you cannot claim your own income as an add-on to your parents' tax return since the amount of income you are earning is too large in relation to your parents' income. So you need to file your own tax return separately, but you cannot claim yourself on your own tax return since by definition ( and in the absence of an 'emancipation' ruling by a judge ) you are still a dependent of your parents as long as you remain in college or until you reach the age of 24.

    Odds are that the club issuing a 1099 report of your dancing income to the IRS is at the root of this. Once that 1099 has been issued, the IRS is going to expect to find that income reported on a tax return sharing the same social security number. Since your own social security number will appear on both your parents' tax return and your own tax return, this shouldn't be a problem. However, since you can't claim yourself on your own tax return, odds are that between the 15% social security tax plus federal income tax plus PA state income tax that you may wind up owing 30 cents for every dollar you earned last year in taxes.

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    Default Re: My dad can't claim me on his tax report

    I called IRS and they won't tell me who tried to claim me. I didn't file my taxes. I asked the girls working at my club and they said they never reported any income from the club.

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    Default Re: My dad can't claim me on his tax report

    Someone help?

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    can't help ... insufficient data.

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    Default Re: My dad can't claim me on his tax report

    Like?

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    Default Re: My dad can't claim me on his tax report

    Should I ask the club if they are sending out 1099?

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    .... like asking your father's accountant, or having your father ask the IRS ( since they obviously won't release his information to you ), exactly why your father's tax return was rejected. Unless that specific IRS info is available to provide some 'direction', you're flying blind.

    In the way of blind guesses ( which could be totally wrong ), I would speculate that rejecting a tax return filing by your father attempting to list you as a dependent might involve

    A. IRS having info from other sources ( like a 1099 ) that your dancing income greatly exceeds your father's unemployment benefit income, or

    B. another family member attempting to claim you on their tax return ( i.e. mother filing a separate tax return from your father ? ), or

    C. FAFSA info sharing with your college bursar's office and the IRS having turned up a dilemma as to how it was possible to pay as much tuition as you did given the amount of income your father reported to the IRS, the amount of income you reported to the IRS, and the amount of student grant / loan money that FAFSA approved for you.

    Of course the other option is to simply wait for the IRS to audit your father, for FAFSA to investigate the 'total household income' your father reported on your student grant application, etc. ...
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    Default Re: My dad can't claim me on his tax report

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    key question ... have you gone through some sort of 'emancipation' procedure ( which would involve a low level court ) ? If you haven't, then since you are A. a full time college student, and B. under the age of 24, then by definition you are still a dependent of your parents.
    Actually, that is not true unless he is providing 50% or more of his child's financial support. Since he's unemployed, and she is over 18, he's obviously provided her with 0% or a very low amount which is well under 50%. And since she made profit, he therefore cannot claim her without being forced to re-do his taxes.

    Here is what happened. You dad hasn't worked so he doesn't have income. Your club probably sent the IRS a 1099, stating the amount of income you made. I would call the IRS and see if they will send you a copy. If not, talk to the club about re-sending it to your current address. Or at least make sure you claim the same amount or above than what your 1099 says you made, when you file your 2012 taxes. You also need to file them on time (by April 16th) since your dad started a mess. You won't get in trouble at all, but you will get a letter claiming someone claimed you. It still will not affect you, it will only affect the person who claims you (in a bad way).

    My mom did this and the IRS sent us both mean letters, though stated SHE had to refile. I was kind of in the same situation, though I don't think I was even living at home at the time. But I had made much more than my mom did by far, and claimed it on my taxes, so my mom was forced to re-do hers. Your dad is fucked over, you're not.

    I know this because I called the IRS and talked to them when I got the mean letter. My mom STILL refused to re-file until they kept sending mean letters and she finally called the IRS and they told her she cannot claim me.

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    ^^^ that's unconditionally true in the absence of full time student status. Once the full time student status enters the picture ( with FAFSA funds ), the 51% support test gets gray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ that's unconditionally true in the absence of full time student status. Once the full time student status enters the picture ( with FAFSA funds ), the 51% support test gets gray.
    I was always a full time student and my mom claimed me on her taxes one year at like age 20 or 21 or something. And what I wrote about is what the IRS told me personally, how they deal with that situation.

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    Default Re: My dad can't claim me on his tax report

    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_baby View Post
    Could it be the club claiming me?
    A club cannot "claim you" on their taxes. They can send you tax documents like a 1099, but only certain people are allowed to claim you on their taxes. Basically you on our own taxes, your dad on his, or your mom on hers.

    Have you asked your mom if she claimed you?
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    Default Re: My dad can't claim me on his tax report

    Thanks ladies. I understand now. What I actually meant was that the club sending 1099 out. I think I should ask them that. Sorry for the confusion. Its actually my mom and dad filing their tax together. My dad doesn't work and live off of my mom. Another thing is that the accountant asked me to print out the 1098T tax form from school. It shows that I paid for 2 of my classes.

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    ^^^ again this is where things get gray where the dependent status of college students is concerned. Form 1098T reports the amount of tuition money ( net of grants and scholarships ) paid on behalf of a particular student. This reported amount of tuition money paid can in turn generate tuition tax credits for the person who is able to 'claim' the 1098T payments which reduce the total amount of taxes owed. But technically speaking, the form 1098T shows that SOMEBODY paid X dollars toward a particular student's tuition ... it does not necessarily show that the student herself actually funded that tuition money from her own earnings. The request from your parents' accountant strongly implies that not only are your parents attempting to claim you as a 'dependent' on their tax return ( and in the process lay claim to the $3-5,000 reduction in taxes due that stem from the 'dependent' tax exemption ), but they are also trying to glom onto yet another $1,000 or whatever in tuition tax credits that stem from having a college student as their 'dependent'.

    The actual source of the tuition payment money falls into the gray area ... i.e. the parents can effectively claim that THEY supplied this money thus it would contribute to their 51% support test for being eligible for claiming the student daughter as their 'dependent' ... and unless paid by check or wire from the student daughter's bank account which the parents do NOT have joint access to, a bank account that also shows regular deposits of the student daughter's dancing earnings, the student daughter will have great difficulty proving to the IRS that she herself rather than the parents were the actual source of the tuition payment money.

    I hate to ask this question, but if you wait until your parents have already filed their joint tax return claiming you as a dependent, then you ( for the moment at least ) will be forced to file your own tax return without a dependent claim and without a tuition tax credit. Depending on how much money you earned in 2012, and what state you live in, this could put you in a position of having to cough up 30-35% of the total amount of money you earned last year within the next four weeks in order to pay the IRS the high taxes that you ( for the moment at least ) owe them by the April 16th deadline. Do you have that kind of money already sitting in a bank account so that you can write that big check to the IRS a month from now ?

    If not, then if it were me I would get very busy preparing and filing my own tax return claiming myself as a dependent, and claiming the tuition tax credit for myself, so that the size of the check that I had to send to the IRS a month from now will be significantly smaller i.e. 15% of last year's earnings instead of 30%+ !!!!!!!!!!!
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    ^^^ I assume from your bump that you're expecting additional assistance ? I really don't known where to turn. As I said before, more information is required from your father's accountant in regard to the details of exactly what he attempted to file with your father's tax return ... the exact reason that the IRS computers would not accept the initial e-file attempt etc.

    And as I also said before, if you don't / can't access this information, about the only alternative open to you is to file your own independent contractor tax return and 'let the chips fall where they may' in regard to IRS audits of your own / your parents' tax returns. One tax return or the other ... but not both ... can claim the 'equivalent cash value' of yourself as a tax exemption. And one tax return or the other ... but not both ... can claim the tuition tax credit.

    At this point, keep in mind that the deadline for filing your own tax return is only 2 weeks away.

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    Default Re: My dad can't claim me on his tax report

    All his accountant told me was social security in use when they tried to file me. I'm guessing someone stole my identity?

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    ^^^ why would anybody attempt to steal your identity for the purpose of paying the taxes that YOU owe ?

    At any rate, all will become clear when the IRS audits you and your parents.

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    Ok GOOOOOD NEWS!!! My parents received the tax refund from the IRS today!!! Everything is all done!! Guess it was an identify thief all along...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ why would anybody attempt to steal your identity for the purpose of paying the taxes that YOU owe ?

    At any rate, all will become clear when the IRS audits you and your parents.
    I guess they try to claim me to get some money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_baby View Post
    Ok GOOOOOD NEWS!!! My parents received the tax refund from the IRS today!!! Everything is all done!! Guess it was an identify thief all along...
    Awesome :3 I'm glad everything worked out for you.

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    Default Re: My dad can't claim me on his tax report

    nice! watch out for the whole 1099 thing next time. i won't even go to a club that makes 1099s me, nooo way. be very careful what you sign and who you give your social out to

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    Default Re: My dad can't claim me on his tax report

    Yeah..I already asked my manager and he said they stopped sending 1099s out since 2 years ago. How do i find out the clubs that sends 1099. Do I asked them before I audition?

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    yeah, i'd just ask before going in unless you don't mind. i just dont' care for them personally.

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