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    Hi again, everyone. Most of you probably don't remember me. I know I wasn't a "big deal" around here, but nevertheless I apologize for suddenly disappearing. I do have a question regarding Streamate. Thanks to the advisement of many of you girls, I have finally decided to move there from LJ. I was bullied by the staff at LJ, I was sick of waiting a month to receive my pay, the list goes on. So, now that I have signed up on Streamate, my desire is to set my rate to $8.99/minute (representing the "Raise Your Rates" thread, hah), for both premium and exclusive, as more-or-less lucrative, I've always preferred to be one-on-one, and a lot of my regulars have always appreciated that. This is especially true because I tend to get a lot of guys who like to simply talk to me at fairly great length, so I find that to be a much more conducive way to facilitate that, and quite honestly, I find it a lot more enjoyable than heading right into something sexual with someone, which I pretty much won't do unless they're a regular I'm fond of. That being said... the staff at Streamate now is giving me a lot of trouble. I keep insisting (respectfully, mind you...) that I be given free reign over my own rate, and I continue to be told "that is against site policy for a newcomer", and "you have to wait at least a few pay periods before we can allow that." Is there any known way to circumvent this? I know that after LJ, it's considered an upgrade from a maximum of $3.99, but at 35% it somewhat pales in comparison to the 45-60% that I was often earning there, and after reading the highly-inspirational "Raise Your Rates" thread, I have the strong desire to charge what *I* feel I am worth. Not what a company generically feels I am worth. I'd also like to start high, rather than incrementally raise to (I assume) the frustration of any immediate regulars I acquire.

    I also have an HD camera, will be using the HD encoder, have a high upload speed, have great lighting, always put a great effort into my appearance/hair/makeup, engage everyone respectfully, often in-depth even if they are a simple (courteous) guest, nice environment, etc. All of this I have explained to the support individual who has been responding to my requests.

    Any help is greatly appreciated!

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    What, SM wont let you set your rate that high when you're new? We're facing the freaking 2 week or more approval process now... so i get to look forward to that and not being able to do gold shows until 4.5-5 stars? Awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by CummingCouple View Post
    What, SM wont let you set your rate that high when you're new? We're facing the freaking 2 week or more approval process now... so i get to look forward to that and not being able to do gold shows until 4.5-5 stars? Awesome
    Mine still hasn't been approved, granted I sent it out the day before yesterday. It's rather concerning at this point because I really need to start working asap. And yes, they are not allowing me to charge whatever I find suitable. It is quite irritating, as the support individual is not particularly kind, and has a certain "air" about him that is suggestive of deriving some kind of twisted pleasure out of denying my request. I've always abhorred abusive authority figures.

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    did he tell you there is a promotional period or is he just being an ass? i didnt see it anywhere while signing up and even on the models pages i didnt see anything.

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    When I asked SM to change my rates, they said no I hadn't cammed long enough. So I pushed them for a date to email them back by. They wouldn't give me one. I pushed and pushed and pushed saying that if it was policy then surely they could give me a date to email them again and check in by.

    They very quickly gave up and let me raise my rate.

    Now your millege may very because I was REALLY persistent with them bordering on making mysef annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justanothercamgirl View Post
    When I asked SM to change my rates, they said no I hadn't cammed long enough. So I pushed them for a date to email them back by. They wouldn't give me one. I pushed and pushed and pushed saying that if it was policy then surely they could give me a date to email them again and check in by.

    They very quickly gave up and let me raise my rate.

    Now your millege may very because I was REALLY persistent with them bordering on making mysef annoying.
    I'm not worried about that; I'm second-to-none at being annoying. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CummingCouple View Post
    did he tell you there is a promotional period or is he just being an ass? i didnt see it anywhere while signing up and even on the models pages i didnt see anything.
    I'm pretty sure he's being an ass. So, I got a little bitchy with him and it's questionable whether that helped the situation.

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    At least you girls can work, I still didn't have a change to work at SM, because they don't approve me... it looks like I'm not the applicant O.o meaning = I'm not the girl from the ID... just because my hair color is different in the ID from what it's nowadays... do they really check pictures properly? I mean, my face is pretty clean, you can TELL IT'S THE SAME PERSON... So mad at SM right now

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    Do you think they're giving us such a hard time at approval, rates changing, etc... because they have so many available models right now that they actually are able to give the cards? that makes me wonder if I'll be able to work there at all... or it's really worth the trouble.

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    $8.99 per minute on streamate? Good luck with getting that from custies on there! Maybe you'll be the exception to what's been happening on sm lately, i.e., the lower amount of paying traffic.
    I've been on sm for 3 yrs., and, like many that have already posted here, times have changed on there.(Even for ladies that have been camming there for over 10 years). Even if your rates are $3.99, you could be sitting in free chat for over a half hour, only to get a one minute prvt.
    I would love to hear how You are the exception and can get long prvts, at even $6 per minute. It would be inspirational for me, as I've already made 3x the amount this week, working for another site, with less time put in.
    ** However, if You work in the middle of the night, You will most likely get that rate, so the above comments won't apply.
    Do let all of us know. Thanks, and best of luck! Glam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    $8.99 per minute on streamate? Good luck with getting that from custies on there! Maybe you'll be the exception to what's been happening on sm lately, i.e., the lower amount of paying traffic.
    I've been on sm for 3 yrs., and, like many that have already posted here, times have changed on there.(Even for ladies that have been camming there for over 10 years). Even if your rates are $3.99, you could be sitting in free chat for over a half hour, only to get a one minute prvt.
    I would love to hear how You are the exception and can get long prvts, at even $6 per minute. It would be inspirational for me, as I've already made 3x the amount this week, working for another site, with less time put in.
    ** However, if You work in the middle of the night, You will most likely get that rate, so the above comments won't apply.
    Do let all of us know. Thanks, and best of luck! Glam
    That actually makes me feel "happier", as I don't feel like losing tons of money like I was feeling lately, as I cannot manage to get myself approved at SM... I mean, there's camming life beyond Stremate hahahahaha...

    I'll just keep working where I feel I'm cashing out more for now, and stop worrying so much about not being on there... don't mean I'll quit trying to get approved, but at least I won't feel like I'm not making the best I can while I'm not working at SM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    $8.99 per minute on streamate? Good luck with getting that from custies on there! Maybe you'll be the exception to what's been happening on sm lately, i.e., the lower amount of paying traffic.
    I've been on sm for 3 yrs., and, like many that have already posted here, times have changed on there.(Even for ladies that have been camming there for over 10 years). Even if your rates are $3.99, you could be sitting in free chat for over a half hour, only to get a one minute prvt.
    I would love to hear how You are the exception and can get long prvts, at even $6 per minute. It would be inspirational for me, as I've already made 3x the amount this week, working for another site, with less time put in.
    ** However, if You work in the middle of the night, You will most likely get that rate, so the above comments won't apply.
    Do let all of us know. Thanks, and best of luck! Glam
    I charge $5.99/$9.99 on SM and they pay. Even with the low traffic right now
    Sometimes it's slow.... But at the end of the week my hourly averages out to far more than when I charged $3.99/$5.99.
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    ^^ Ashley, I've read Your posts about your frustrations with getting on sm, and I always wonder if you've read the threads and posts on here regarding how bad it has been on that site for quite some time.
    In my corporate job that I walked away from, I was an 'ace' at figuring out statistics, and averages,(and so many boring details that go with that), and I can quite easily figure out what is working, and what is not, and most importantly~why.
    In Life, and especially sales, it boils down to a 'numbers' game, and there is no other explanation to why over 100 people pop into a free chat, yet nobody goes prvt. That just doesn't add up.
    When I first started camming, I was at, and in a studio, because I didn't even have a home computer at the time, and knew nothing about camming.
    I was told by a gal who was friends with the studio owner, that the site had pre-set comments that come into free chat to make the model have hope~ such as, "you look very beautiful today", or "You are my favorite model on this site", (things like that).
    When I see those 'shills', if You will, on sm, it makes me laugh,because they click out and NEVER go prvt, and lots of times I have no makeup on, and haven't even set up my lighting or outfit yet.
    It's just the same as Your boss or manager coming to You and telling You what a great job You are doing, to keep You motivated, and not to quit.
    Does that make sense?
    Another thing SM does, is that when You are in a prvt., and ask the custie if he wants to turn his cam on, he gives the same excuse that his cam is broken, then proceeds to act like a 'director' with their specific sessions, My 'gut' tells me that I am being recorded from the site, and sold to some far away place, that I would never think to look, or perhaps their own 'private buyers'. I don't care, because those sessions seem to last longer, and I'm getting paid for the time in prvt.
    It is what it is, and so be it. Greed is all too familiar in the world of adult entertainment, just like it is in the corporate world. It's just part of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    ^^ Ashley, I've read Your posts about your frustrations with getting on sm, and I always wonder if you've read the threads and posts on here regarding how bad it has been on that site for quite some time.
    In my corporate job that I walked away from, I was an 'ace' at figuring out statistics, and averages,(and so many boring details that go with that), and I can quite easily figure out what is working, and what is not, and most importantly~why.
    In Life, and especially sales, it boils down to a 'numbers' game, and there is no other explanation to why over 100 people pop into a free chat, yet nobody goes prvt. That just doesn't add up.
    When I first started camming, I was at, and in a studio, because I didn't even have a home computer at the time, and knew nothing about camming.
    I was told by a gal who was friends withe the studio owner, that the site has pre-set comments that come into free chat to make the model have hope~ such as, "you look very beautiful today", or You are my favorite model on this site', (things like that).
    When I see those 'shills', if You will, on sm, it makes me laugh,because they click out and NEVER go prvt, and lots of times I have no makeup on, and haven't even set up my lighting or outfit yet.
    It's just the same as Your boss or manager coming to You and telling You what a great job You are doing, to keep You motivated, and not to quit.
    Does that make sense?
    Another thing SM does, is that when You are in a prvt., and ask the custie if he wants to turn his cam on, he gives the same excuse that his cam is broken, then proceeds to act like a 'director' with their specific sessions, My 'gut' tells me that I am being recorded from the site, and sold to some far away place, that I would never think to look, or perhaps their own 'private buyers'. I don't care, because those sessions seem to last longer, and I'm getting paid for the time in prvt.
    It is what it is, and so be it. Greed is all too fmiliar in the world of adult entertinment, just like it is in the corporate worls.It's just part of the game.
    Well I guess I've never been good with numbers =P Anyway I've noticed what you've said, but there are so many girls talking about SM... it made me really eager to give it a try. But I see what you say now. I'm not doing bad at all in one of the websites I've been working on, maybe I should keep investing my time there. Thank you for making me feel better.

    Besides that, you made me realize things even for my business in real life, thank you so very much for spending such long time writing this reply. It sure gave me lots of things to think in more than one area of my life. Thank you! *hugs* Funny thing is that my working area is, in a big part of it, based exactly on this kind of market analisys... maybe that's why I'm doing so bad on it lately =P

    Ps.: about recorded sessions, I'm already ok with the fact that someone WILL find out someday about my adult job... it's not matter of "if people will find out" but "WHEN they will find out"... =P so I'm not over reacting on the idea of being "busted" anymore. If people are not ok with my life style, come over and pay my bills... ¬¬

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    Quote Originally Posted by justanothercamgirl View Post
    When I asked SM to change my rates, they said no I hadn't cammed long enough. So I pushed them for a date to email them back by. They wouldn't give me one. I pushed and pushed and pushed saying that if it was policy then surely they could give me a date to email them again and check in by.

    They very quickly gave up and let me raise my rate.

    Now your millege may very because I was REALLY persistent with them bordering on making mysef annoying.
    I havent cammed on SM yet but I alredy asked to change my rates up to 12,99. And they did it for me.
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    You're so welcome Ashley! Yes, I don't care about recorded shows either, as I'm getting paid, and if anyone sees me camming, they can pay my bills if it really bothers them! lol!
    I just hate the freeloaders who come in and demand all kinds of standing, turning, etc., without tipping, because those guys are probably amateur porn makers, and will 'screen'shot for free, and then sell it to who knows who.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    You're so welcome Ashley! Yes, I don't care about recorded shows either, as I'm getting paid, and if anyone sees me camming, they can pay my bills if it really bothers them! lol!
    I just hate the freeloaders who come in and demand all kinds of standing, turning, etc., without tipping, because those guys are probably amateur porn makers, and will 'sceen'shot for free, and then sell it to who knows who.
    Yeah, I'm learning already how to get rid of those freeloaders... =P even imagined they could screenshot and record videos for free... that's bad, really bad. If they're gonna produce any material, at least don't do that for free Btw, I'd rather produce my own material and sell it on C4S hehehe

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    Missbeth, Can You P.M me your name on sm, so i can watch you to maybe learn how to get 8.99 at this time? And also, what time You are on, (if it's in the daytime), or early evening.Thanks, and congrats for beating the system on sm!

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    Missbeth, Can You P.M me your name on sm, so i can watch you to maybe learn how to get 8.99 at this time? And also, what time You are on, (if it's in the daytime), or ealy evening.Thanks, and congrats for beating the system on sm!
    Right now I work day between 10-5pm est, I used to work at night from 7-11 pm est
    It was noticeably busier at night and i made a little bit more but I prefer to work during the day so I don't have opposite schedules with my BF.

    I don't give out my name on here :p hope you understand
    What I give credit to me being successful on SM is watching top row girls and using the same attitude/tactics they use.. Not copying them but definitely emulating a bit
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    Double post
    Last edited by Missbeth; 03-16-2013 at 07:18 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshleyRed View Post
    At least you girls can work, I still didn't have a change to work at SM, because they don't approve me... it looks like I'm not the applicant O.o meaning = I'm not the girl from the ID... just because my hair color is different in the ID from what it's nowadays... do they really check pictures properly? I mean, my face is pretty clean, you can TELL IT'S THE SAME PERSON... So mad at SM right now
    Have you talked to Vanessa yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    $8.99 per minute on streamate? Good luck with getting that from custies on there!
    I charge $9.99/14.99 a minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    Missbeth, Can You P.M me your name on sm, so i can watch you to maybe learn how to get 8.99 at this time? And also, what time You are on, (if it's in the daytime), or early evening.Thanks, and congrats for beating the system on sm!
    PM me. I will tell you my SM name if you wish.

    It is all personal hustle though. I am not sure much what I can teach you.
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    That's cool!

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    I'd love that just. Thanks

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