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    My mom is demanding I give her the information on my 1099 MISC's so she can fill out my tax returns for me. What do I do?
    Can I just give her the Streamate's real federal identification number but a fake business name and address?

    I'm so scared.

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    how old are you? why the fuck is she doing that? more info?

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    I'm 19. She thinks I'm doing a different online job than I actually am. I secretly bought TurboTax myself and have filled out everything myself. I'd send it all in, but apparently she's trying to claim me as a dependent (which I'm actually not anymore according to the standards). That's why she is demanding I tell her the information. I'm trying to tell her I can do it myself! She is refusing to give me a W-2 from another job I had as well!

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    She is 100% on to me and before hanging up on me tried to say she thinks I'm making my money inappropriately. I can't let her know my real job, so can I just give her a fake business name and address, but their real federal ID?? Or would IRS definitely find that error???

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    I have to agree with Simone... you should be taking care of your own personal finances.

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    I should have never let her know how much money I was making and I should have put the money into a secret banking account.

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    These are your taxes and legally those forms are yours. Don't let her bully you into giving information you don't want to.




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    Shayla-
    I'm not a parent, and I'm 26 now, so I haven't had to deal with this issue for quite awhile- but here's the link to the IRS site- click on "qualifying child" in that list.
    http://www.irs.gov/publications/p501...link1000220886

    I think, if you turned 19 last year, your parents can still claim you.... Am I reading that right, everyone else?

    Edit: I think that's^ wrong, sorry, But it does have a section about being a student- are you a student?

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    The thing is TurboTax says they also must be living with you or in college and I haven't been in school or with her since 2011.

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    Oh! Then in that^ case, I agree with everyone. Lol. It's your info. She can't claim you anymore anyway. Is she the type that would be trying to get your income info just to figure out what your job is?

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    ^^^ if the OP is a college student, then it's highly likely that she must still be considered as a dependent of her parents. If the OP is NOT a college student, but still lives with her parents, then it's fairly likely that she can still be considered as a dependent of her parents. But if the OP is not a full time college student, maintains a separate residence etc. then it is rather UNlikely that she can still be considered as a dependent of her parents.

    While intially difficult, smoothing over problems with a parent is a whole lot easier, and a lot less expensive, than smoothing over problems with the IRS.

    If it were me, I would contact the 'straight job' employer for a copy of that W2. I would then file my own tax return claiming myself as a dependent and showing both the W2 income and the 1099 income. At that point, I would tell my mother that I have already filed my own tax return ... and that if she insists on filing her tax return attempting to claim dependent status that it is GUARANTEED to trigger an IRS audit.

    In reality, being able to claim you as a dependent is probably worth something like $3000-$5000 in reduced taxes ... either to your mother or to you. So in reality you have a lot more at stake here than simply trying to make your mother happy. But ultimately the IRS dependent rules are the rules ... and if you are now earning enough money that you are providing 51% or more of your own financial support then your mother is screwed no matter what.

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    Controlling parents ugh..... So sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaylaKane View Post
    I should have never let her know how much money I was making and I should have put the money into a secret banking account.
    Quote Originally Posted by ShaylaKane View Post
    She is 100% on to me and before hanging up on me tried to say she thinks I'm making my money inappropriately...


    Are you sure this isn't a tactic of your moms to find out what you really do for a living?

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    actually, there's already a ton of discussion on the topic of dependent status in the Dollar Den !

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    I'm so upset, because it comes down to this. Tell her the real information and let her fill out the taxes herself and ruin my reputation with my family. (This is NOT an option.), file my taxes myself and her get screwed for lying and claiming me as a dependent, OR do my taxes myself and lie and say someone could claim me as a dependent and risk me getting in trouble with the IRS as well.

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    I would do the last one, but I am not 100% sure about what all she might have lied about, so I'd be into shit if it didn't add up.

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    do NOT get yourself in trouble with the IRS. they are far less forgiving than your parents, and the reprecussions could be far more serious and far-reaching and mess up your future. i've gotten in trouble with them before and it is not a joke. you are technically a woman now, an adult. please take this seriously

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    Do you live with your mother?? She could be making an issue about this because she suspects you are up to something.

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    I do not live with her.

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    Go to h&r block and talk with one of thier tax experts. They give advice for free. Tell them you have a question about if your a dependent or not, tell them the situation and circumstances and they will tell you if you are dependent or not. If the tax advisor tells you you don't qualify as a dependent then legally your mom cannot file you as a dependent, if she still asks you saying the IRS would never know tell her you are not willing to lie to he IRS to lean tax favor.
    If they say you qualify.... I don't know what you can do....
    You can always tell your mom you already did your taxes, filed independent and she can not legally claim you. I'm sure she doesn't want an audit.
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    If you haven't lived with her for over 6 months and you aren't in school she can't legally claim you. I would tell her no and explain to her you live on your own and you want to be an adult and file your own taxes. Do not let her bully you and what you do for a job is really none of her business.

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    You're not in school and you don't live with her, so I'm pretty sure you're not a dependent. As someone else said, don't let her bully you into giving her your 1099 information.

    You mentioned that she said she won't give you the w-2 from your other job, as "bait" I guess ... definitely call your other job that the w-2 is from and ask them to send you another one (just say it got lost in the mail, or something). You can't be claimed twice, so if your mom claims you and you claim yourself then the IRS is probably going to investigate. You said you haven't been to school or lived with her since 2011, so I highly doubt she can legally claim you, but I'm not an expert.

    She's probably trying to claim you as a dependent for the extra $$ that it would bring on the return, and also to find out about your "secret" job. You don't live with her, so she doesn't need to know what your job is.

    I know the scary feeling, I've been there. I lived with my parents for several months last year. I was terrified that they were going to argue with me about who can claim me as a dependent but when I explained to them that I'd really like to file my own taxes and claim myself, they understood. It was a huge relief and weight off my shoulders. I know a lot of girls around here get freaked out around tax time, especially if they're students and/or living with their family. You're neither a student nor living with your family, so you've got nothing to worry about, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caitir View Post
    Shayla-
    I'm not a parent, and I'm 26 now, so I haven't had to deal with this issue for quite awhile- but here's the link to the IRS site- click on "qualifying child" in that list.


    I think, if you turned 19 last year, your parents can still claim you.... Am I reading that right, everyone else?

    Edit: I think that's^ wrong, sorry, But it does have a section about being a student- are you a student?
    Claim yourself. She will get fucked over if she claims you and isn't supposed to. Its on her. If she doesn't provide you with 50% of your income/support, then she cannot claim you. Its even more obvious she can't claim you if you made like 100k and she made 40k because your income would be more than double hers, therefore it would be impossible for her to have provided you with at least 50% of your income/support. My mom claimed me one year and got screwed over.

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    Tell her the real information and let her fill out the taxes herself and ruin my reputation with my family. (This is NOT an option.), file my taxes myself and her get screwed for lying and claiming me as a dependent, OR do my taxes myself and lie and say someone could claim me as a dependent and risk me getting in trouble with the IRS as well
    If she doesn't provide you with 50% of your income/support, then she cannot claim you

    Again trying to make this point, from the standpoint of the IRS there is no 'negotiation' about dependent status. Even if you volunteer to let your mother claim you, and even if you do not claim yourself on your own tax return, there's still nothing to stop the IRS computers from 'sniffing out' the fact that your mother's after-tax income versus your own after-tax income likely makes it impossible that your mother provided 51% of your support while still paying her own bills and still supporting other family members. Thus the end result is likely to be that you will BOTH wind up being audited.

    As far as I know, the only exception to the 51% rule is a judge's ruling that person X may claim dependent Y as part of divorce settlements etc. And this sort of judge's ruling affects the mother versus the father, not the dependent children.

    Not meaning to be disrespectful, but it's time to put those 'big girl' panties on, and to face your mother as an adult. File your own tax return claiming yourself as a dependent in accordance with IRS rules, pocket the $3-5,000 savings in the amount of taxes you owe, and deal with the family fallout. After all, even if you got away with letting your mother claim you as a dependent for 2012 without attracting an IRS audit, and even if you voluntarily gave up the $3-5,000 in tax savings, when 2013 tax season rolls around a year from now what's to stop your mother from expecting you to do the same thing again costing you yet another $3-5,000 ???

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    Here is what I would do in your situation. Not sure if its right or wrong.. but its what I would do. I would go ahead and file my taxes with the w2 that I have in my possession. THEN in about three months file an amended tax form, I believe its form x and then add the w2 that your mom has. That way both are getting submitted Good luck to ya my dear!

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