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    Hello ladies,

    I would like to hear your opinions or experiences related to scammers. Aside from pimps and mooching boyfriends, I was wondering if there are con-artists out there who would specifically target strippers to scam out of money under the assumption that strippers generally have a lot of money. Much like how some older people sometimes get scammed out of their savings.

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    I've not heard of any specific scams targeting strippers. However if people know you have money there will always be those who ask to borrow some and feel as though they don't need to pay it back, partly because they think strippers make easy money.

    In general if anyone comes to you with an investment opportunity you need to be really careful and do lots of research yourself to see if it is legit.

    It's no so much a scam but I always count how much a custie has given me before they walk away cos you often get guys trying to shortchange you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly_V View Post
    I've not heard of any specific scams targeting strippers. However if people know you have money there will always be those who ask to borrow some and feel as though they don't need to pay it back, partly because they think strippers make easy money.
    I don't strip but I think it's mostly this as well. I've heard horror stories.lol Mostly consisting of other people feeling entitled to a strippers money. I friend of mine had to move out of a house she shared with roommates since it got so bad. Everyone was like "she can pay for it".lol Beyond rude. They were also really jealous and it was started to get nasty so she exited stage left.

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    I vaguely remember hearing about some "agency" that "promoted strippers" and "taught girls how to make more money" but the girls had to pay some ridiculous fee to the agents on top of whatever club fees. They targeted girls who had never danced before and put out ads saying that if you worked under them they would "get you in" at a strip club...as if its HARD to get hired. They basically lied and acted like they had connections with a bunch of clubs and ended up getting banned by the clubs after the managers caught on to what they were doing. I can't for the life of me remember what it was called or which club I was dancing for at the time (this was years ago) otherwise I'd look it up.

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    I don't know about scammers who aren't boyfriends but certainly theft and robbery if people know you dance and where you live.
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    Thanks ladies.

    I friend of mine had to move out of a house she shared with roommates since it got so bad. Everyone was like "she can pay for it".lol Beyond rude. They were also really jealous and it was started to get nasty so she exited stage left.
    Ugh, that sounds horrible. I'm in a sort of similar situation, except I've distanced myself from friends somewhat since I trust people even less since I started dancing. Most of them don't know I dance, but I've always wondered about this kind of thing happening (jealousy, people asking about my money, etc). I don't like having roommates either.

    I vaguely remember hearing about some "agency" that "promoted strippers" and "taught girls how to make more money" but the girls had to pay some ridiculous fee to the agents on top of whatever club fees. They targeted girls who had never danced before and put out ads saying that if you worked under them they would "get you in" at a strip club...as if its HARD to get hired. They basically lied and acted like they had connections with a bunch of clubs and ended up getting banned by the clubs after the managers caught on to what they were doing. I can't for the life of me remember what it was called or which club I was dancing for at the time (this was years ago) otherwise I'd look it up.
    There is something like that here in the Northeast except it involves Russian dancers. As far as I know Russian girls have to pay an agency separately from a club which includes the agency finding them a club to work at, giving them a schedule, and having a driver for them. I don't know much about it scam-wise though. The clubs here don't ban them though, they probably work with these agents. I have a friend who is a Russian dancer, but she lived in the United States for long time and is a greencard holder. But when she tried to work at an upscale club and upon seeing her Russian sounding name on her driver's license, they told her that she had to go through an agency before she could work for the club.

    In general if anyone comes to you with an investment opportunity you need to be really careful and do lots of research yourself to see if it is legit.
    This reminds me of a customer I met a while back and we talked for a bit. I remember him telling me how I should invest the money I earn and what I should do with my money and generally decent sounding advice. However he also started talking about how I should hide it from the government (sketchy I know) and he presented a business opportunity and to let him know when I have x amount of money saved up. A couple of weeks later I saw him again at the club and he was talking to another girl and I overheard him talking about the same thing to her.

    Its bad enough there are all these people in the club (hosts, management, etc.) with their hands out for a cut of stripper money, let alone having to deal with agencies and customers who want stripper money. I remember one night after work getting changed to go home overhearing a dancer in the dressing room saying "If I were a thief, I would target strippers because I know they have money." Really got me wondering about the whole thing.

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    There are 4-5 agencies like this. One is here in Colorado where I'm at.
    Quote Originally Posted by xGigi View Post
    I vaguely remember hearing about some "agency" that "promoted strippers" and "taught girls how to make more money" but the girls had to pay some ridiculous fee to the agents on top of whatever club fees. They targeted girls who had never danced before and put out ads saying that if you worked under them they would "get you in" at a strip club...as if its HARD to get hired. They basically lied and acted like they had connections with a bunch of clubs and ended up getting banned by the clubs after the managers caught on to what they were doing. I can't for the life of me remember what it was called or which club I was dancing for at the time (this was years ago) otherwise I'd look it up.
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    Heh some of those parasitic agencies are right under our noses!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sansonnet View Post
    There is something like that here in the Northeast except it involves Russian dancers. As far as I know Russian girls have to pay an agency separately from a club which includes the agency finding them a club to work at, giving them a schedule, and having a driver for them. I don't know much about it scam-wise though. The clubs here don't ban them though, they probably work with these agents. I have a friend who is a Russian dancer, but she lived in the United States for long time and is a greencard holder. But when she tried to work at an upscale club and upon seeing her Russian sounding name on her driver's license, they told her that she had to go through an agency before she could work for the club.
    CLASSIC! I think those agencies are completely unnecessary now that the Russian community is well established.
    If it was ever legit, it's become a racket now.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racket_%28crime%29
    A racket is an illegal business or scheme, usually run as part of organized crime. Engaging in a racket is called racketeering.[1]
    Traditionally, the word racket is used to describe a business (or syndicate) that is based on the example of the protection racket and indicates a belief that it is engaged in the sale of a solution to a problem that the institution itself creates or perpetuates, with the specific intent to engender continual patronage.
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    [QUOTE=Sansonnet;]

    A had a customer while I was working out of town once who spent a decent amount of money on me, and then while we were chatting he started telling me how smart I was working making a lot of money and he hopes that I am investing it wisely. Then, he pulls a prepared set of papers out of his briefcase and handed them over. He proceeded to explain that he handles real estate investments for big development projects underway over the next couple of years. Apparently he knew how I could invest as little as $2000 to start and he can make back 30% annually for his clients.
    At first I was so excited about the idea and I read over the documentation he gave me which was a quarterly newsletter for his clients. I started to think that it all sounded to good to be true and I never called him.

    One other time, same initial scenario- well dressed customer comes in and spends a good amount of $$ on me and then goes on to mention how he's in this club and that's should come and check it out, and goes on to explain a pyramid scheme. When I asked if it was, he argued that it was not. He gave his card and told me to bring at least $50 to th first meeting. I didn't call him either.

    In any setting remembering "if it's too good to be true, it probably is" will help keep you from being scammed... At least most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    CLASSIC! I think those agencies are completely unnecessary now that the Russian community is well established.
    If it was ever legit, it's become a racket now.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racket_%28crime%29
    A racket is an illegal business or scheme, usually run as part of organized crime. Engaging in a racket is called racketeering.[1]
    Traditionally, the word racket is used to describe a business (or syndicate) that is based on the example of the protection racket and indicates a belief that it is engaged in the sale of a solution to a problem that the institution itself creates or perpetuates, with the specific intent to engender continual patronage.
    Yeah, I figure that whoever are behind the Russian agencies are shaking down the clubs for protection money or something to that extent. I also found out from talking to a couple of Russian girls I work with that they give their desired schedule to the agency, so they have the benefit of working fewer days, being able to leave early without hefty fines, and not having to work mandatory/x times a week scheduled days like non-Russians have to do. I asked one of the bouncers how this happens and he said that since the girls pay the agency a flat rate each time they work (seperate from the house fee), the club considers the girls as working for that agency and independent of the club. I started joking around with another girl (not Russian) that maybe we should sign up for this agency, but then she told me she actually tried to do that and got turned down for not being Russian. My club doesn't issue 1099s and I'm hoping a move to a bigger club that does will result in less stringent requirements/scheduling. I know for the most part clubs tend to be greedy, but I noticed that whenever it's a fairly large club that works with one of these Russian agencies they tend to be greedier than usual (fines for everything, strict schedule requirements).

    Quote Originally Posted by Misskatia;
    A had a customer while I was working out of town once who spent a decent amount of money on me, and then while we were chatting he started telling me how smart I was working making a lot of money and he hopes that I am investing it wisely. Then, he pulls a prepared set of papers out of his briefcase and handed them over. He proceeded to explain that he handles real estate investments for big development projects underway over the next couple of years. Apparently he knew how I could invest as little as $2000 to start and he can make back 30% annually for his clients.
    At first I was so excited about the idea and I read over the documentation he gave me which was a quarterly newsletter for his clients. I started to think that it all sounded to good to be true and I never called him.

    One other time, same initial scenario- well dressed customer comes in and spends a good amount of $$ on me and then goes on to mention how he's in this club and that's should come and check it out, and goes on to explain a pyramid scheme. When I asked if it was, he argued that it was not. He gave his card and told me to bring at least $50 to th first meeting. I didn't call him either.

    In any setting remembering "if it's too good to be true, it probably is" will help keep you from being scammed... At least most of the time.
    Lol at the bring at least $50. These guys kind of remind me of the guy I mentioned with his investment opportunity although he didn't have a bunch of papers readily available. He spent money at least.

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    Son's father. Psychopath. Stole my savings, lost everything. He gets his girlfriends pregnant, lives off them till there's nothing left. Goes on to the next. I never thought it would happen to me. I was paying my way through college, had a condo, friends, dreams, goals. Problem is I was love starved, he 'loved' me more than anyone, or so I felt. A tough way to learn to love My Self when you lost real, genuine childhood love. I am serious, I was a strong willed, good hearted woman (though still young) and was targeted and never imagined that a story like mine could ever have happened. I still struggle through denial. My parents did not grow up in poverty or lacked giving me things growing up. Some would say even spoiled, but I never knew healthy genuine love and that is how I ended up as a single mother, alienated emotionally from family, caring for a 5 year old whom I love and slowly grieving my loss of childhood innocence, learning self love.

    THIS, whether many of us know it or not is how we are targeted. There is a life path that brought a lot of us to this work and a lot of it had to do with the love in our lives. Some con artists hone in on this and make it a black market career. Please, please be careful as I do not wish this on anyone. We do not realise that this job in itself, opens us even those of us who are steel strong, to vulnerability. It's our sexy innocence that is so attractive, and makes profit. At the same time, it is taxing to the point that it can bring you around full circle to the root of the reason we became dancers in the first place. We must be strong and support eachother, where we may have lacked love (even if we think we got it all growing up, or not enough) has a lot to do with the fact that we can do this job in the first place. Many, many women never would. The fact that we do, shows that we all have a degree of vulnerability that others are looking to profit from. Keep an eye out and your intuition as your guide. It will inevitably guide.

    much love, N.T
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