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    I have been a camgirl for the last 5 years. My first cam site was Live Jasmin then i moved to Streamate about 3 years ago. Live Jasmin was once a top cam site for cam girls then it went to pieces with alot of beggers and not much money to be made by cam girls. Now with Streamate having all there tech issues and no one from streamate wanting to address theses issues i wonder if they will become the next Live Jasmin or Imlive?

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    Default Re: Will Steamate Become The Next Live Jasmin?

    Maybe, once SM forces girls to begin at .98/min and starts having chargebacks. When that day comes I'm sure there will be a mass exodus to the next best place. I don't really think this is something worth worrying over...too much

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    Default Re: Will Steamate Become The Next Live Jasmin?

    Here we go with all this 'doomsday paranoia' again.








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    Default Re: Will Steamate Become The Next Live Jasmin?

    What issues? I haven't noticed anything...





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    To me there are no signs of this happening. In fact, I've actually been seeing more performers both frequently surpassing goals of $300+, and more performers setting higher GOLD show goals... Like, things seem to be looking up over there!

    There's a girl on SM who I saw hit a goal of around $400 a couple days ago, (can't remember her exact target), and she did it without flashes for tips, the buy in was something like $9, she wasn't selling videos for every damn tip (or any at all, actually), and she didn't even want to show her ass until they'd reached a certain point. She continuously sets targets this high, and appears to be doing amazingly well.

    Without wanting to be rude, I feel like performers start "doomsday" speculating like this, when things start going downhill for them, without peeking in other girls rooms to get a feel for the entire "wellness" of the site as a whole. Bank is being made on SM.

    For as long as I see girls making amazing money on there, I'm not going to worry a bit about SM declining into the mess that LJ is...





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    I hope not. I think if they just sent out a memo to performers admitting they know they have issues and are working on them it will be fine. The silence is what's pissing performers and customers off. I have never worked on ImLive or LJ. What happened?

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    Yes, its inevitable. I would argue that those who believe otherwise are kind of delusional. Its a natural trend. For example, that's why girls from OnHerCam completely left that site and moved to MyFreeCams. And some are now really struggling with just MFC because it flooded. And its why all the Flirt4Free & ifriends & cams girls left for Streamate. Its a natural progression to move to another site that offers more traffic and less competition after your current site floods.

    When the entire industry floods, like stripping did in the 2000s (largely after the recession hit in 2007), the top 10% of the girls make 90% of the money now. Not only that, but with dancing, you have to travel to where the money is these days if you want decent money. What that means in terms of camming is, you will have to go after money by building a brand through doing porn, creating a website and social media, and pushing your untapped niche, in order to make money. Vanilla dildo-in-pussy camming will probably be too flooded to make anything in 3 years. Quote me. You will do well if you have a niche, but otherwise there will be too many girls with no niche to compete with vanilla-wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    Without wanting to be rude, I feel like performers start "doomsday" speculating like this, when things start going downhill for them, without peeking in other girls rooms to get a feel for the entire "wellness" of the site as a whole. Bank is being made on SM.
    THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.

    I'm not trying to sound like a bitch, but I'm tired of girls who aren't doing well camming trying to bring down CC into a negative paranoia. My earnings are higher than they've ever been .... I'm not bragging, just stating a fact.

    OP, just because camming is on the decline for you doesn't mean it is for everyone.

    I apologize if I sounded like a bitch ... topics like this are just ... annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammii View Post
    THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.

    I'm not trying to sound like a bitch, but I'm tired of girls who aren't doing well camming trying to bring down CC into a negative paranoia. My earnings are higher than they've ever been .... I'm not bragging, just stating a fact.

    OP, just because camming is on the decline for you doesn't mean it is for everyone.

    I apologize if I sounded like a bitch ... topics like this are just ... annoying.
    I don't think thats true. I think you just need a niche, and they are speaking in terms of the overall business or vanilla work, and not girls with specific niches which most veteran posters on SW have. Which I actually agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    I don't think thats true. I think you just need a niche, and they are speaking in terms of the overall business or vanilla work. Which I actually agree with.
    I'm confused. You don't think what's true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammii View Post
    I'm confused. You don't think what's true?
    Not your quote, but the one you quoted: "I'm not trying to sound like a bitch, but I'm tired of girls who aren't doing well camming trying to bring down CC into a negative paranoia. My earnings are higher than they've ever been .... I'm not bragging, just stating a fact."

    I don't think its true. The ones who say camming won't be good in the future are the ones talking about the OVERALL camming industry (which is largely vanilla dildo-in-pussy), not talking about girls with niches, which most veterans on SW have. So I disagree that the girls who aren't doing well are trying to bring down CC. They're just spotting future trends based on the past. The best predictor of the future is the past.

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    I have to disagree. When your top performers are losing money and talk about leaving the site due to glitches, there is a problem overall. Did it ever occur to some of you the reason you are doing better is because other performers have issues or left the site? Next week the issues could be fixed and you aren't making money.

    Not sure how topics like this are annoying. It's a proven fact that cam sites that used to be good aren't that great anymore.


    Quote Originally Posted by sammii View Post
    THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.

    I'm not trying to sound like a bitch, but I'm tired of girls who aren't doing well camming trying to bring down CC into a negative paranoia. My earnings are higher than they've ever been .... I'm not bragging, just stating a fact.

    OP, just because camming is on the decline for you doesn't mean it is for everyone.

    I apologize if I sounded like a bitch ... topics like this are just ... annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    Yes, its inevitable. I would argue that those who believe otherwise are kind of delusional. Its a natural trend.
    Just to clarify: I don't think SM will last forever, lol. Just that right now I see signs of actual improvement rather than it all going to shit just yet.

    My honest opinion about industry flooding is that it will take a lot more than 3 years for that generation of girls to discard the traditionalism of their families in favor of camming! Our world is still hyper-sensitive and hysterical about sex work. But at the same time, we have a generation full of guys fapping to porn. Fapping to porn is way more accepted than actually being in porn itself. Getting off to porn - though still hugely stigmatized in some places - it still a private activity that can be hidden, and still way more univerally accepted than sex work itself.

    What would you think a mother in even our current generation have? A son with a healthy sex drive who watches porn? Or a daughter who fucks herself on the internet for all to see, has a career in the sex industry, and is also very possibly ruled out from a number of top professions and careers because of that, possibly for the rest of her life? As heartbreaking and infuriating as it is, the fact that most mothers would still be more comfortable with the former, than the latter, means that for as long as us camgirls are this stigmatized sexy "forbidden fruit", there will be more guys fapping and paying for us, than women flooding the industry providing this service because of the commitments and stigma.

    I could be right, I could be wrong. But that's just my current thoughts on the matter.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    My honest opinion about industry flooding is that it will take a lot more than 3 years for that generation of girls to discard the traditionalism of their families in favor of camming! Our world is still hyper-sensitive and hysterical about sex work.
    But do you know how many new girls come on SW every week and post about how they are going to cam but plan to use geoblock and think they'll never be found out? The thing about camming is, girls are doing it without leaving their houses, in their spare time, so they can attempt to keep it a secret from everyone they know. Unlike dancing that requires a set block of time several nights a week. And that's why I think it will flood. The more people who know about it (especially dancers), the more people end up doing it.

    Combine that with a high unemployment rate and more and more girls graduating high school each year desperate for any sort of job- even minimum wage. With no way to support themselves and no job, what else are they going to do? Especially when they think they can keep it a secret because cam companies lie to them about geoblock working 100% of the time and stuff. The reason why camming is not flooded yet is because most women don't even know it exists. But that will change with more media attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    I have to disagree. When your top performers are losing money and talk about leaving the site due to glitches, there is a problem overall. Did it ever occur to some of you the reason you are doing better is because other performers have issues or left the site? Next week the issues could be fixed and you aren't making money.
    I've been making good money for 2 years ... so no, lol ... I'm not worried about top performers coming back. My money is fine regardless of whose online.

    As Incant. said, I know SM isn't going to last forever. But my niche isn't going anywhere.

    Edit: Bowing out of this thread. I don't have time to argue all night.

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    I've been on there five years and what people consider good money now was chump change back then. I always worry when a large group of performers have issues, it's not a good sign of things to come.

    I really don't believe in niches. Anything a cam performer offers have been done hundreds of times before by other performers.


    Quote Originally Posted by sammii View Post
    I've been making good money for 2 years ... so no, lol ... I'm not worried about top performers coming back. My money is fine regardless of whose online.

    As Incant. said, I know SM isn't going to last forever. But my niche isn't going anywhere.

    Edit: Bowing out of this thread. I don't have time to argue all night.

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    Default Re: Will Steamate Become The Next Live Jasmin?

    I personally feel Streamate is not going down anytime soon and I am very glad because even with bad days, I still love SM. SM is a totally different ball game comparing to Dead Jasmin.

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    It will be flooded just like phone sex sites have been flooded due to stories and movies about the industry. It's only a matter of time.



    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    But do you know how many new girls come on SW every week and post about how they are going to cam but plan to use geoblock and think they'll never be found out? The thing about camming is, girls are doing it without leaving their houses, in their spare time, so they can attempt to keep it a secret from everyone they know. Unlike dancing that requires a set block of time several nights a week. And that's why I think it will flood. The more people who know about it (especially dancers), the more people end up doing it.

    Combine that with a high unemployment rate and more and more girls graduating high school each year desperate for any sort of job- even minimum wage. With no way to support themselves and no job, what else are they going to do? Especially when they think they can keep it a secret because cam companies lie to them about geoblock working 100% of the time and stuff. The reason why camming is not flooded yet is because most women don't even know it exists. But that will change with more media attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    But do you know how many new girls come on SW every week and post about how they are going to cam but plan to use geoblock and think they'll never be found out? The thing about camming is, girls are doing it without leaving their houses, in their spare time, so they can attempt to keep it a secret from everyone they know. Unlike dancing that requires a set block of time several nights a week. And that's why I think it will flood. The more people who know about it (especially dancers), the more people end up doing it.
    Oh of course, but that doesn't mean they'll stay, or even last the length of time it takes to research well enough to figure out wtf site brings in the most traffic (of which SM is still favoured over MFC by so many!), buy a webcam, get online, or last a mere couple of nights working as a camgirl. Even lasting a week says nothing in the long run.

    I'm guessing most girls - in general - if told about camming, would want to do it. Some will stay curious long enough to find the site that suits them. Others will initially want to, and then drop off because of the risks or something they don't like about it (possibly when they find out that this is an actual job, and you're not getting money thrown at you just for aiming the cam at your cunt and "getting off"). Even the ones who do end up camming for longer than a week, if they aren't bringing in great money, they won't even do so much as make even a dent in the surface of the industry unless there are sudden massive waves of actual successful performers. And those who don't bring in great money, I am guessing will throw the towel in pretty fast because they sitting in free chat for huge lengths of time is killing their soul, lol.




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    You forgot privatecamz aka Camworld. Was huge in the cam industry, upgraded their site like Streamate did and in time all the glitches on there killed the site. They don't even exist anymore. So it is very possible that any cam site can lose traffic and customers and just die out.



    Quote Originally Posted by lena011 View Post
    I have been a camgirl for the last 5 years. My first cam site was Live Jasmin then i moved to Streamate about 3 years ago. Live Jasmin was once a top cam site for cam girls then it went to pieces with alot of beggers and not much money to be made by cam girls. Now with Streamate having all there tech issues and no one from streamate wanting to address theses issues i wonder if they will become the next Live Jasmin or Imlive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammii View Post
    I've been making good money for 2 years ... so no, lol ... I'm not worried about top performers coming back. My money is fine regardless of whose online.

    As Incant. said, I know SM isn't going to last forever. But my niche isn't going anywhere.

    Edit: Bowing out of this thread. I don't have time to argue all night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    It's only a matter of time.
    Right, that's it.. I'm just going to go ahead make a hand grenade shaped like a webcam with the word "STREAMATE" on it, and insert. On cam. On SM.

    May as well - WE'RE ALL DOOOOOOMED!!! DOOOOMED I SAY! D':




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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    Right, that's it.. I'm just going to go ahead make a hand grenade shaped like a webcam with the word "STREAMATE" on it, and insert. On cam. On SM.

    May as well - WE'RE ALL DOOOOOOMED!!! DOOOOMED I SAY! D':
    LOL. I love you. I lol'd so hard. Thanks for making my night, bb.

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    Going to agree with Incantatious and Sammii on this one.

    And that's all I'm going to say about that.
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    Christ on a cracker this thread, lulz.

    Lemme just hand out these survival kits and gas masks...lolol








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