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    Whats up SW, so I recently examined my closet and literally all I have are blue jeans, black and white tees, and some black hoodies. Now that I am starting to socialize more with other people and pursue women again I am wondering if my wardrobe could/needs an upgrade. It has never been of thought to me before but lately my female classmates/friends have been telling my that my style is so simple that I don't stand out. I feel that simplicity is key to good looks, whether it be a man or a woman. Less is more and sometimes bright colors while cheery and "pop" come off as being to loud. I am simple by nature and prefer the minimalist lifestyle but here are two photos of me:


    ^This is my preferred style, sticking to blacks/greys/and whites. No flashy logo, graphic tees, snapbacks, all that streetwear "swag" stuff that younger girls seem to like ie. 18-25 age range. And many dudes who are into streetwear gravitate to.


    ^Now this is me "swagged" out (I just use that word for lack of a better description) according to my friend Brig. She says this style looks better on me and will get more attention. I told her that while having a sense of style is important to a degree (gotta at least make an effort to look nice) I feel this get up makes me look like a thug wannabe. Being all flat brimmed and just the overall look feels off to me. I know its just a hat but I dunno what do you guys think? By the way I am 26 so maybe this look is better left to the young cats and older dudes like me should go for the more "corporate" look ie business casual and what not.

    Any fashion tips you ladies can give to a dude who is not even remotely in touch with what looks good with the exception of the classic t shirt and jeans outfit which personally is my favorite. Better yet, what look do you prefer your men and or men you would consider talking to on more than a platonic level to be sporting? Your input is appreciated.

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    You dress kind of young, I bet that's what they mean. Most women the same age as you want to date someone established or older, and how you dress is going to play a large part in it. I think your best bet would be to find a celebrity whom you look similar to (or have similar hair/skin/eye color) and dress how they do.

    As for "style"- I really like Shia Labeouf & ASAP Rocky circa 2012. I also like One Direction's Zayn Mailk. Zayn has the best style out there IMO. I feel like such a cougar right now lol. Frank Ocean and Chris Brown circa 2012 have good style also.

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    Frankly, I think the "swag" look is dumb as hell, and I judge boys (can't bring myself to use the term "men") who sport it negatively. If I were to be approached by a guy wearing that style, I would most likely be a bitch to him, honestly. To me, that's not making an effort to look nice. It's just making an effort to buy the same hat at Tools 'R Us that every other douche along the the bro-thug continuum has. Go with your instincts on that look, and don't bother with it.

    If you want to look nice, buy some new clothes that fit well. Don't buy shit that makes you look like a walking billboard for whatever brand you're sporting, or the Jersey Shore DVD set. Buy nice dark shoes, jeans that don't fall off and aren't frayed, some business casual options if you're comfortable in that. I agree that less is often more with guys, but that doesn't mean the same hoodie every day. Dark neutrals are fine, but get a little crazy and go for a navy or wine over plain black sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    You dress kind of young, I bet that's what they mean. Most women the same age as you want to date someone established or older, and how you dress is going to play a large part in it. I think your best bet would be to find a celebrity whom you look similar to (or have similar hair/skin/eye color) and dress how they do.

    As for "style"- I really like Shia Labeouf & ASAP Rocky circa 2012. I also like One Direction's Zayn Mailk. Zayn has the best style out there IMO. I feel like such a cougar right now lol. Frank Ocean and Chris Brown circa 2012 have good style also.
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    Frankly, I think the "swag" look is dumb as hell, and I judge boys (can't bring myself to use the term "men") who sport it negatively. If I were to be approached by a guy wearing that style, I would most likely be a bitch to him, honestly. To me, that's not making an effort to look nice. It's just making an effort to buy the same hat at Tools 'R Us that every other douche along the the bro-thug continuum has. Go with your instincts on that look, and don't bother with it.

    If you want to look nice, buy some new clothes that fit well. Don't buy shit that makes you look like a walking billboard for whatever brand you're sporting, or the Jersey Shore DVD set. Buy nice dark shoes, jeans that don't fall off and aren't frayed, some business casual options if you're comfortable in that. I agree that less is often more with guys, but that doesn't mean the same hoodie every day. Dark neutrals are fine, but get a little crazy and go for a navy or wine over plain black sometime.
    GlamourRouge: I figured so...at 26 I am "to old" for the younger girls yet to young for the girls in my age range. Plus my lack of being established is probably holding me back amongst other things. I appreciate the advice but one thing I feel I should never do is fall into trends...which obviously come and go but classic style ie. jeans and a tee will always be in. But I can see where your coming from, I will look into some variety.

    tuesdaymarie: Yeah the swag aka streetwear look that a lot of the younger crowd wears is definitely the norm here. In my opinion streetwear used to be the alternative and cool now everybody is on that train. But then again anything that is deemed cool/stylish will be jocked and eventually played out...its the nature of the beast. Maybe I just gotta focus on improving myself on a mental and physical level then dealing with the clothes later but at my age...its getting to the point where I feel like I will look like a try hard literally and figuratively. I know what you mean by the walking billboard, big logos and graphic tees look cheesy and cheap to me...now small logos and discreet insignia look classy and expensive. Look at the famous lacoste polos...that tiny little crocodile is so discreet yet distinct but that is a preppy style I am not a fan of. A like your suggestion on a dark navy or wine color....preferably the navy. It offers some color while still remaining a dark neutral. Just out of curiosity, do girls get a pass on the swag train?






    *Its like if a female rocks that streetwear look she is cute/fashionable....if a dude rocks it he ends up looking douchey and or thug wannabe.

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    ^what about this look, flannel button down and cap. I think it looks pretty decent without coming off as thuggy or unemployed lol.
    BTW the dude above is my good friend Sam, he is 32. Age appropriate in your opinion? He usually rocks this style and or the snapbacks you commonly see on the "swag" crowd with a simple black/white tee.

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    How are those 2 different styles? All you did was put a hat on lol

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    Black You need to get some style, you look like every other want to be thug. Throwing a cap on doesn't show much effort like tues was saying.

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    imo swag looks immature on everyone, girls and guys, kids and adults. if that is your thing then fine, just know that you will definitely be attracting a more immature (for better or worse) person. it sounds mean but im not trying to be-some people are genuinely only interested in people who are into partying, beaches, flashy jewelry and cars, etc. thats totally fine. but if you are interested in someone who has more "serious" hobbies you will turn off almost all of them. I dont know many people with degrees who still dress like that.

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    Yeah I can totally see how they are saying you look like way younger than your age. I'd take you for around 20, especially with the bright hats and such.

    Simplicity is not really a "bad" thing, but most girls your age are probably going to go for a sharper dressed, older looking guy. I see nothing wrong with the jeans and t-shirt look but it's going to definitely attract either younger girls... or hopefully just a more laidback woman (who isn't judging off clothing). You do kind of blend in with just the plain ole black. You can jazz it up with some colored shirts (red, darker blues maybe) while still being simplistic. It also might sound silly, but if you had a nice pair of shoes on (not Vans or Chucks) with the jeans and black shirt, that would even upgrade your look. I would for sure steer clear of the huge logos and swaggy stuff... that just screams immature and wannabe thug.

    I like your friends style too, that shirt is bold but he's got it paired with plain jeans so it meshes.

    I do sympathize with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" sort of view though; my boyfriend is 29 and has the same shit in his closet he wore in college because "why buy new clothes when these are in good shape and match with jeans?"
    On the other hand, it does make it difficult when he needs someone to take him seriously; I have to audit his clothes before he goes to important appointments, or else he'd walk out in skate shoes and a polo from high school
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    Things I like to see guys wear: Polo shirts, button down shirts, nice jeans that have been tailored to fit well, and converse or vans if casual and dress shoes (not too dressy, but like leather shoes instead of sneakers) with jeans if going out on a date. I prefer a preppy look. Oh, and a nice watch, doesn't mean expensive, just looks nice.

    The biggest thing is fit! Make sure your clothes fit you well, even if that means getting them tailored.

    Also, a nice blazer that again, fits well.
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    What kind of style do the Ladies want to see in a Man? Highly paid employment.

    Make $100,000; $250,000, etc. and you can wear hoodies and jeans.

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    Your clothes are definitely too big for you. Even the flannel. And they're kind of... generic? Like you are lacking individuality or style. The very thing that will set you apart from all the other men out there at first glance.

    (You asked, so don't get mad...) If I were to pull apart and critique your flannel picture, I would say the flannel is 2 sizes too big, and should be in an earth tone to compliment your skin tone. I would also say that it would look better with a v-neck tee or fitted button-down in a complimentary color underneath. The jeans also look 2 sizes too big and make you look bulkier (in a bad way) than you really are. They too, would also look better in a neutral earth tone color (black, brown, beige, dark green, camel, etc). The hat style doesn't really match the style of flannel so it looks off. The should show your eyes because you will need to smile with your eyes to attract a girl. I think you should show your hair too, and possibly grow it out on top since many women prefer slightly overgrown, messy hair.


    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSheEp3 View Post
    GlamourRouge: I figured so...at 26 I am "to old" for the younger girls yet to young for the girls in my age range. Plus my lack of being established is probably holding me back amongst other things. I appreciate the advice but one thing I feel I should never do is fall into trends...which obviously come and go but classic style ie. jeans and a tee will always be in. But I can see where your coming from, I will look into some variety.
    Its not really about trends. And with trends, its still about taking the couple the suit you and tailoring them to your own style. Zayn Malik, for example, he dresses very classic with lots of neutral colors. The difference is, he takes a couple trends and makes them his own. I think you're lacking just that: the ability to know a.) what you like, and b.) what looks good on your body type/skin tone.

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    Army if make $$ what you are saying & I don't agree with your statement, you most likely have a wardrobe.

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    Army if make $$ what you are saying & I don't agree with your statement, you most likely have a wardrobe.
    Ouch. This is hard to read. Ok. I live in an area with loads of petroleum, electrical, and mechanical engineers. These guys make that and wear hawaiian shirts to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    Ouch. This is hard to read. Ok. I live in an area with loads of petroleum, electrical, and mechanical engineers. These guys make that and wear hawaiian shirts to work.
    I grew up in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the country and this is correct, although not exactly Hawaiian shirts, but yeah they dress like shit a lot of the time, but that's because they've gotten past the point where they have nothing to prove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    What kind of style do the Ladies want to see in a Man? Highly paid employment.

    Make $100,000; $250,000, etc. and you can wear hoodies and jeans.
    Idk, I think money is important to older women or women who are already making a great deal of cash (adult industry), but otherwise I think most women don't care too much.

    I think style is a big thing that will make-it-or-break it honestly. Especially because its the difference between giving you the time of day or saying "not interested!" and walking away. A lot of the time though, style is heavily influenced by culture. So a lot of what people where has to do with the types of people they hang out, their attitudes toward the world, their lifestyle, the type of music they listen to, who they admire, what their goals are, and what they value in life. So I feel like style is important and says a lot about a person.


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    I grew up in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the country and this is correct, although not exactly Hawaiian shirts, but yeah they dress like shit a lot of the time, but that's because they've gotten past the point where they have nothing to prove.
    I agree with that, but I feel like they are also not trying to attract a mate unlike the OP. Because they are probably well-connected and meet people through their connections or at events where the only men there are the ones who are rich, hot, or well-connected- one of the three so the women they meet there don't worry much.

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    Yes I've known many engineers & image is the least of their concerns.

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    Ouch. This is hard to read. Ok. I live in an area with loads of petroleum, electrical, and mechanical engineers. These guys make that and wear hawaiian shirts to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    I agree with that, but I feel like they are also not trying to attract a mate unlike the OP. Because they are probably well-connected and meet people through their connections or at events where the only men there are the ones who are rich, hot, or well-connected- one of the three so the women they meet there don't worry much.
    Yeah I'm not saying that the OP should dress like that, just wanted to say that ArmySGT is correct. I don't agree with rich people dressing like slobs, as I think it reflects poorly because to me dressing well is a sign of taking care of yourself. I think that also goes hand in hand with wearing baggy clothes, because to me that seems sloppy as well.
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    Thanks a bunch for the wealth of information everyone and BTW that flannel photo is not me lol...thats my friend Sam. The only photos of me are in the original post with the black hoodie. And yes that Hoodie is generic, actually I bought it from a cannabis shop because they tend to carry the heavyweight kind with decently sized hood...very popular with the gangster type dudes but since I dont have the shady look, I feel its fine on me. After all its just a pullover hoody and a solid black color. Also my tee shirts are form Kirkland and Stafford...love em because the neck holes fit perfectly, good weight to em, and just clean and simple. I like Paul Walker's look from fast and furious:


    ^Simple and clean...if I was a straight female this would be my type of guy. Not necessarily a white guy but I mean the style.


    ^This one looks even better, just a clean crisp white tee and some khakis...pair it up with chuck taylors and vans and its a good look imo. Of course his good looks help as well but you guys catch my drift.


    ^This is what I mean by less is more...so simple yet so clean. I love how the ladies look, Jordana and Michelle would be just my type. And if I was gay and or a straight female, Vin or Paul look good...well between the two I choose Paul because Vin is to much of a meathead for my taste. Not a fan of super big muscles.
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    Hey cool I looked at the links and some of em I like...thanks for taking the time to do that. I appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanOzz View Post
    How are those 2 different styles? All you did was put a hat on lol
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    Black You need to get some style, you look like every other want to be thug. Throwing a cap on doesn't show much effort like tues was saying.
    Quote Originally Posted by charlotte. View Post
    imo swag looks immature on everyone, girls and guys, kids and adults. if that is your thing then fine, just know that you will definitely be attracting a more immature (for better or worse) person. it sounds mean but im not trying to be-some people are genuinely only interested in people who are into partying, beaches, flashy jewelry and cars, etc. thats totally fine. but if you are interested in someone who has more "serious" hobbies you will turn off almost all of them. I dont know many people with degrees who still dress like that.
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    Yeah I can totally see how they are saying you look like way younger than your age. I'd take you for around 20, especially with the bright hats and such.

    Simplicity is not really a "bad" thing, but most girls your age are probably going to go for a sharper dressed, older looking guy. I see nothing wrong with the jeans and t-shirt look but it's going to definitely attract either younger girls... or hopefully just a more laidback woman (who isn't judging off clothing). You do kind of blend in with just the plain ole black. You can jazz it up with some colored shirts (red, darker blues maybe) while still being simplistic. It also might sound silly, but if you had a nice pair of shoes on (not Vans or Chucks) with the jeans and black shirt, that would even upgrade your look. I would for sure steer clear of the huge logos and swaggy stuff... that just screams immature and wannabe thug.

    I like your friends style too, that shirt is bold but he's got it paired with plain jeans so it meshes.

    I do sympathize with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" sort of view though; my boyfriend is 29 and has the same shit in his closet he wore in college because "why buy new clothes when these are in good shape and match with jeans?"
    On the other hand, it does make it difficult when he needs someone to take him seriously; I have to audit his clothes before he goes to important appointments, or else he'd walk out in skate shoes and a polo from high school
    -eye roll-
    Thanks for the input...I think the problem well it doesnt have to be right? Is that I am so simple that I just wanna rock some jeans and clean black or white tee. It might look I am not trying but that is just my style, simple and less is more. I feel like women can get their shine on on all day with the clothes, accessories, jewelry, but men can get away with being simple. I dont even go for dress watches because I find them cumbersome and in the way. I feel like a guy who is simple and clean is enough...no need to put so much effort in coordination and matching and what not. But thats me...nothing against anyone who does. Maybe the most I would go is some business casual and some other styles others have suggested but it really has to be low key in nature and dark neutral colors or white. Even that hat I wore in the first photo has to much "pop" for my taste with the orange. But I did notice I get more attention with girls rocking that hat...doesnt seem negative since they smile at me and or glance over. Maybe their just looking at the bright color on the top of my head.

    Yeah your right, a hat added aint much haha.

    As for kicks, I always wear my Onitsuka Tiger Ultimate 81 sneakers in black with white stripes and red sole. The red is very little but its a nice accent.


    I know what you mean by people taking a dude seriously in jeans and tee shirt but then again for a business transaction/dealing I would use my common sense and throw on a button down long sleeve for that "proper" look. I guess as well it all comes down to lifestyle and who your trying to attract. But whether male or female...as long as the person is clean and presentable...that should be enough. I dont wear skinny jeans nor do I wear baggy jeans, same for my tees and hoodies and button downs...basically I wear clothes that fit me (large).

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    I feel like the 3 pics you just posted a couple posts up, are very... outdated? Like easily from 1999 - 2004 when fashion was completely different than where its at now. Those pics look really dated, and I feel like any woman under 30 maybe even under 40 would know that. But its not even like... trends. Its like fashion. Its like someone dressing like they are in the 70s in the 80s. Its not old enough to be ~*vintage*~ but its not recent enough to be in fashion. It just looks like you're (not you, but the men in the pictures) outdated, not that you don't follow trends.

    For example, roundneck tees have been replaced by vneck tees, loose or even slightly baggy jeans have been replaced by skinny fitted jeans, loose button-ups have been replaced by tight button-ups, short sleeves are out unless they are tshirts, sweatshirts & hoodies are out and blazers + motorcycle jackets are in. Things like that. And I feel like thats really important when attracting a woman under 30 especially, because most women are very conscious of whats unfashionable and are turned off by men who are unfashionable. Idk, I'm speaking from a "young" perspective. I know majority of SW women are older than I am.

    If you don't understand what I'm trying to say, google the men in the pictures now. Paul Walker and Vin Diesel right? Google "paul walker 2012" and "vin diesel 2012" and you can see what they were wearing last year and where fashion is at now. And also, those men have been replaced by younger, more popular actors that are more up-to-date with fashion. Not trends necessarily, but what's in style in this generation. For example, Robert Pattinson is probably the new Paul Walker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    I feel like the 3 pics you just posted a couple posts up, are very... outdated? Like easily from 1999 - 2004 when fashion was completely different than where its at now. Those pics look really dated, and I feel like any woman under 30 maybe even under 40 would know that. But its not even like... trends. Its like fashion. Its like someone dressing like they are in the 70s in the 80s. Its not old enough to be ~*vintage*~ but its not recent enough to be in fashion. It just looks like you're (not you, but the men in the pictures) outdated, not that you don't follow trends.

    For example, roundneck tees have been replaced by vneck tees, loose or even slightly baggy jeans have been replaced by skinny fitted jeans, loose button-ups have been replaced by tight button-ups, short sleeves are out unless they are tshirts, sweatshirts & hoodies are out and blazers + motorcycle jackets are in. Things like that. And I feel like thats really important when attracting a woman under 30 especially, because most women are very conscious of whats unfashionable and are turned off by men who are unfashionable. Idk, I'm speaking from a "young" perspective. I know majority of SW women are older than I am.

    Hmmm I see what you mean and this may sound judgemental or crude (no harm intended) but V necks tend to look metrosexual to me and or gay. The men I see wearing V necks usually are flamboyantly feminine in their mannerisms/actions or its the gym rat jock type. I always thought crewnecks aka roundnecks were the classic and contemporary staple in any man's wardrobe.


    I was never one for baggy jeans and I do kinda like the skinny jeans but not that skinny. I would love to have some tailored jeans that are just right but in my opinion skinny can only be pulled off by super skinny dudes. I dont have frog legs or nothing and my build is slim but slim straight leg fit is what I think looks best universally...not to feminine by being skin tight but not slobby either by being to lose/baggy. And also I try to wear as complementary clothes as possible in terms of size/fitment. I tried wearing a medium tee but I have somewhat of a slim/broad shoulder build so medium looks funny on me...kinda like a muscle tee. X-large is to big and wide...large fits me perfectly. And thats taking into account that usually after throwing my tees in the dryer they will shrink a bit. Blazers are always good. I am gonna try out the corporate look...maybe look into some dress shoes, slacks, and a button down. Something like this:





    *Thinking about it now...and being a business major I realize that I can go for the corporate look. It looks nice, credible, and just overall its sharp.

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    Default Re: Would like some perspective my style/appearance.

    Here are the looks I am thinking of trying out along with the business casual I mentioned:




    ^minus the bling/necklaces/bracelet

    And my personal favorite:


    This dude has so much swag...yeah I know that word again but its the best way I can descibe T.I.
    So much personality from such a petite dude.

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