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    Seriously. Just do it. I know it's been said on here before, but let me make an example of myself. I got ripped off for the first time last night - gave a guy a dance, he decided not to pay me because I wouldn't let him touch my junk, and the bouncer did nothing. Just a friendly reminder to new dancers - there's no guarantee that the bouncers or managers will have your back, so make sure you have your own.

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    Default Re: Get your money first...

    good point! wow, nice security guards!! i've never been ripped off, but it will probably happen because i usually won't make them pay upfront for the second dance because once they reach into their pockets they arent thinking with their dicks anymore, and it just completely throws off the heat-of-the-moment hustle for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunlunicor View Post
    Seriously. Just do it. I know it's been said on here before, but let me make an example of myself. I got ripped off for the first time last night - gave a guy a dance, he decided not to pay me because I wouldn't let him touch my junk, and the bouncer did nothing. Just a friendly reminder to new dancers - there's no guarantee that the bouncers or managers will have your back, so make sure you have your own.
    Yes, this's happened to me as well, the club did nothing but did promise to cut me a deal later on fees, which they later did NOT


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    ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS GET PAID UPFRONT!!!!!!! It happened to me once & I swore it would never again. It has turned some customers away but i'd rather try someone else than end up working for free. I usually use the line " oh, sweetie it's their rules not mine But i'll ensure a much better dance if you pay upfront works every time

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    I got ripped off before for 4 songs. I already noticed he was acting a bit strange, and the guy had wads of money in his wallet and I got a peek when he made is super obvious when he paid for our drinks before I took him to go dance. He decided not to pay me anything and when I told the doorman(who I had been tipping regularly) and he threatened to call the police. All the while I stood by the door making sure that he wouldn't just take off so easily. When the police showed up, he started blabbing on about how he already bought me a drink... He reached for his wallet and opened it up in front of he officers to grab his ID. I boldly reached in and grabbed a handful of cash from it and stormed off to the dressing room. Luckily there was more than the cost of the dances. I have since either asked for $$$ upfront from guys with a weird vibe who I do end up dancing for, and usually I suggest after 3 or 4 songs to "pay the meter"

    If I were to ask too soon I might cut a lot of my earnings and like the OP mentioned, it's kind of a turn off to ask for cash after the first song. I don't want the guy to be thinking in logic mode.

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    This used to happen to me all the time at my club in Maryland. It was such a dive and guys would come in, have me dancing all night and then claim they didn't have the money. I would ever so discreetly escort them out front,VIP rooms were there also, so nobody could tell what I was doing. I then told the security guard of my problem and 1)he would collect some type of,collateral from the guy until he came up with most of or all of my money...but most bouncers were not like this, (however if you do find one be sure to tip him at the end of the night, cuz 9 times out of 10 you'll need him to do the same thing. ) 2) give that customer the option of paying out or getting out, at the club so worked at this option meant that the guy couldn't come back in because there would be some type of flag under his name (membership only club) usually things ended with me getting my money and the few times that I didn't at least the guy got kicked out.

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    I actually don't ask for the money up front. There's always a bouncer keeping track of how many dances I've given so he knows how much the customer owes me. If anything, I'll collect every 4 songs (4 songs = $100). Collecting the money before each dance messes up the flow IMO. If I just keep dancing I feel that the customer is more inclined to keep wanting more dances. If he says he doesn't have enough money that's no problem because we have an ATM and a cash advance option at the bar.

    A few weeks ago I gave a guy 12 dances which is $300. He gave me $160 and said that's all he had. No problemo, I went and told the bouncer and the bouncer told him he owes me another $140. So what'd the guy do? He got the rest of my money from the bar via cash advance.

    I can see how this would be a problem if the bouncers don't have your back but mine do so I don't usually run into problems.
    "Rather have my feet hurting than my pockets."

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    Default Re: Get your money first...

    Yeah, the bouncers at my club pretty much just sleep all the time. I usually tip them well, but needless to say, I didn't tip that one that night. On another note, did two dances for a lovely gentleman tonight who paid upfront without me having to ask and kept his hands where I said he could.

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    That's unfortunate that the bouncers aren't doing there job for you. I mean, in my opinion part of their job is to kind of be our bodyguards. After the bouncer made the guy fork over the rest of my money he owed I tipped the bouncer $10 just as a "thank you," and a little incentive to make sure he keeps up with looking out for me.
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    Default Re: Get your money first...

    it's highly recommended we get our money upfront at the club I'm at --- I was stiffed once. Never again! Especially with the drunk ones get the money upfront. If not make sure they know the numbers before hand and remind/collect after every $100 like Nina_ suggests

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    Default Re: Get your money first...

    Tis a tuff spot for a manager. To force someone to pay when they don't really know what happen. Doesn't make it any less crappy. I like pre paid VIP & never give out to many dancers w/o seeing some money. Don't even care about the club policy on it. I need to see money, or you need to start walking.

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    Default Re: Get your money first...

    Unless you're constantly getting ripped off, I think it's worth the risk to collect at the end instead of having him reach into his wallet after every song. If he keeps having to feed the meter, he's gonna start to focus too much on how much he's spending.

    I've only been ripped off once in two years ($20-40), so I don't worry about it too much, but our managers outright told us that if we stack dances and there's a dispute about the amount owed, they're gonna side with the customer.

    Now, there are some high risk groups that I always get the money upfront from, but that's because a) there's a higher probability that they won't pay afterwards b) there's also a good chance they'll do something stupid that will make me end the dance early and c) they're probably only gonna get one dance anyway

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