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    Default How to say "no" (without going home broke)?

    Need some advice.

    My club is having a bit of a dry spell. It seems like the only customers who are coming in are looking for whores. And the only girls making any money ARE whores.

    And with this crowd, I'm having the issue of needing to tell customers to back off - stop touching my tits, don't try to kiss me on the mouth, get your hand off my ass - in a way that doesnt make them just go looking for another girl who will let it happen.

    So, should I just start walking away from anyone who gets touchy and cut my losses? Latey, it seems like I either sit and chat with cool, sweet, non-touchy guys and make no money, or give dances to freaks who can't take no for an answer, and just feel sick and disgusting after. In the second scenario, I make more money than the first, but still not much, because most of these pervs won't get another dance after they realize I'm not letting them get away with anything.

    Or is there a way to still make money from the douchebags without feeling molested at the end of the night?

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    Default Re: How to say "no" (without going home broke)?

    If your comfortable with any contact you could take the guys hand and hold them where ever your comfortable with them touching you and tell them to keep their hands there, but that's only gonna work for so long

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    Default Re: How to say "no" (without going home broke)?

    Yeah, that's the problem, "Whyd you move my hand?! I wanna touch your titties!"

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    Default Re: How to say "no" (without going home broke)?

    are you certain the only girls earning money are whores? im not saying you're lying, i just hear so many girls flinging the accusation around ( even at me) during slow periods at the girls who still earn a lot. but anyways..idk, do it in a giggly, flirty way " oohh, you're naughty!! but i don't want us to get caught", try dodging it, etc. even girls who don't allow contact can make good money ( although it is harder in general) and there are still gentleman who just want clean entertainment. what are your boundaries in this club?

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    Default Re: How to say "no" (without going home broke)?

    The girls who are making decent money every night, selling multiple dances and VIPs, are the ones who give extras. They are the ones who come back to the dr to babywipe the semen off of their back/hands/etc, the same ones I see in the VIP/LD areas with a dude's hand in their thong, sucking neck, grinding through the whole song, getting groped and letting it happen, etc. All of which I consider to be extras, but I know there are those who don't think that grinding is an "extra", imho, if a part of your body is touching his dick so much that he gets off, it's not much different than just giving him a hj. It's not a LOT of extras girls, just maybe two or three per shift, but it's obvious enough to fuck with everyone else's money.

    My club's rules on touching are that a guy's hands can ONLY be on the dancer's sides. No boobs, ass, vajay, inner thighs, etc. She can touch him anywhere but the junk/ass, and no grinding for more than 6 seconds at a time before switching positions. It's against the rules, but almost all of the girls will let him touch boob in the VIP as long as he doesn't get too agressive.

    My problem is, the gentlemen who want clean entertainment have been few and far between the past couple of weeks, and the "I don't want to get caught"/dodging grabs doesn't seem to work on these guys. They try to argue, or they keep doing it anyway, or they just act like your a bitch for not letting them do what they want.

    IDK...I'm thinking I just need to stop messing with these guys and just turn tail the second I notice the tell-tale signs of a nasty perv.

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    Default Re: How to say "no" (without going home broke)?

    I think you just described dancing in Houston!!!
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    I had to slap a guy twice a few days ago for biting me twice during prepaid dances. If his buddy hadn't prepaid for three dances during a slow shift, I would have slapped him and had him kicked out. I choke guys trying to suck on my neck. I hate it. Nothing's worse than a guy trying to bite or suck on you, you pulling away quickly out of disgust, and having a bruise/hickey mark. :/
    Guys trying to kiss me just get dances with my face as far away as possible or with my nose in front of their mouth lol.
    Change dance positions and often... keep them distracted from the fact that you aren't going to whip out junior anytime soon. This way, you can at least get two dances off of super-extras guys. Sometimes, if you entrance them enough, they'll get more.
    I learned how to give aggressive and sensual dances (grinding and non-grinding varieties) by working in difficult clubs. Don't be afraid to slap/choke/playfight with some of these guys... many are into that and will get dances based on you not putting up with their crap.
    If the club gets too bad, leave. Clubs in which guys ask for extras BEFORE dances regularly usually have a bad reputation, so you might be better served at a different club if this is the case. If they tend to ask AFTER dances, get your money and go to the next guy. Distraction, once again, is key to these kinds of guys.
    Hope this helps!!!

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    Default Re: How to say "no" (without going home broke)?

    sorry competition is fierce these days..try and not worry about them though, give them something the other girls can't! you can still make your dances very sensual and intimate without the touching " ill do enough touching for the both of us baby" is a good distractor, maybe have the security guard check up on your overtime..

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    Default Re: How to say "no" (without going home broke)?

    Try a different club?

    If that's not an option, get your money upfront so you can walk away when they start to break the rules. If the clientele is as bad as you describe it, all you can do is play coy and not say upfront that they won't get extras (or you can promise them the moon and stars and then just not deliver, but that gets tricky with local bylaws and club rules, so YMMV), get your money, and then make it clear that they won't get more. It's not going to get you long strings of dances, but if it's slim pickins it's better than nothing.

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    Default Re: How to say "no" (without going home broke)?

    Well, I don't want to jinx it, but I think the dry spell left with Easter. Decent money for a day shift today, and most of the men were perfect gentlemen.

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    Default Re: How to say "no" (without going home broke)?

    If it's just a warning, then politely without spoiling the mood say something along the lines of:

    "If you keep doing that you're going to get me in trouble/we are both going to get into trouble".
    Or, "You're not allowed to do that...I know, but it's against the club rules and you don't want to get me fired do you?!"
    Or, "We are both here to have fun, but if you keep doing that the fun will have to stop!"

    Custy:"Why'd you move my hand?! I want to..."
    Dancer: "You are being very naughty, you're not allowed to touch me there. If you do, we will both get into a lot of trouble!"
    Or, "If you do that, out time together is going to end. Why don't you sit down, relax and let me dance for you".
    Or, hold the guys hands above his head and maybe very lightly run your finger nails down his arms (he'll think you are being "kinky" by being "controlling" when in reality you are protecting yourself).

    If you have given the customer a warning and he continues to push your boundaries-end the dance (collect you money first of course!)! You are the one in control and if it's a non touching club, the club will be on your side. Otherwise, if you can't deal with the club any longer-why not try working somewhere else (it may just be that particular club)?
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