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    Tonight on Streamate, I had a member called DrPeter. He asked if I were a mom. I asked why he needed it, and then he answered he didn't like virgins. I thought he was gonna ask for fisting or a huge insertion, but something made me suspicious and I lied him saying I had 2. Then he asked about the age and sex of my "kids" I answered they were girls, 3 and 5 years old, and he took me pvt right away. There, he asked if my girls were as sexy as me. I was all like "Uh, but they are just kids", and he said "Now tell me what you and your daughters would do for me". Then, I copied the chat logs into the Report form and banned his sick pervert ass. That dickface had the gut to send me a cam-to-cam. Unfortunately, I got so emotional I forgot to take a screenshot of his face (as well as copy the logs elsewhere) - but he's 45 to 50 years old, round face, stoutish, with short grey hair and well-trimmed beard, front and well-groomed. He could be a doctor or a lawyer. If anyone gets a member acting that way, PLEASE ask him for a c2c and make a screenshot - we need his face published, so noone ever lets him anywhere near their kids!!!
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    I don't agree with this. It's your choice to not go along with the fantasy because of the rules of the site. But I don't get worked up over people's fantasies.

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    Well, it's also against site rules. So not only is it creepy and against the law, you can get him banned from the site (hopefully).

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    If you'd have turned on C2C and he had a child on his lap, then I could understand, but it isn't unlawful to roleplay with a legal adult. It is against site policy to roleplay as a minor and whatnot, so I could understand kicking him or whatever.

    It sounds like you are extremely shaken up by this, but in honesty you will get way worse than him.. It is honestly best to prepare yourself.
    I have had people tell me they are going to hang themselves on c2c and do I want to watch them do it? (Chilled me to the core). People tell me they want to kill me, rape me. Have I fucked any family members? Do I have a dog that might fuck me? Any small creatures I can stick inside me?... It is endless. If you can imagine it, you will be asked it.

    He is on a site which enforces strict age requirements for their performers. The guys you need to worry about are those who frequent sites where underage kids hang out. Those are the grooming playgrounds where dangerous child molesters are probably grooming children as we speak. No offence (lol), but why would a pedophile have any interest in your show?

    I'll probably get hate for this, but fuck, this is human nature. - Billions of completely unlawful atrocities are being thought of and fantasized of by perfectly respectable, perfectly sane adults internationally every second - sometimes alone, sometimes with someone who shares their taste. We murder people in our minds, we kill and torture people in video games for our enjoyment and satisfaction and release, we laugh about them, we dedicate art to crime, we slaughter people in fantasy, we rape, are raped, we spank, we shoot, we whip, we torture, we tie up... we do outrageous things in fantasy that we would never want to do in reality. And that is not a crime. Thank fuck - or else we would all be locked up.

    We need his face published? Where? Why? We need to know details about his face because somewhere on the planet, a stout, aging guy with facial hair tried to initiate taboo roleplay with a woman of legal age over a sex site?

    No crime was committed between you and your client. I'm not interested in spreading his face all over the web and warning people about him.





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    Roleplay is one thing, but this guy was talking about what he thought was her REAL kids. I'm sorry but you're wrong. It is totally different. This is someone who cannot separate fantasy from reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babybunny View Post
    I don't agree with this. It's your choice to not go along with the fantasy because of the rules of the site. But I don't get worked up over people's fantasies.
    Is one thing to have fantasies about fictional children, but it is completely different to ask someone to describe their REAL children and the sexual things they would do. If you have a fantasy like that it is important that from the start you explain that it is a fantasy and make sure the other person is okay it. Not to mention that streamate is just not the place for that since it is against the rules.

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    I agree...when someone asks about MY kid...it instantly pisses me off and I block them. I wouldn't have even let it get that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissSassyPickles View Post
    Roleplay is one thing, but this guy was talking about what he thought was her REAL kids. I'm sorry but you're wrong. It is totally different. This is someone who cannot separate fantasy from reality.
    If I see a hot woman and think about fucking her, then I go tell my boyfriend about her, and we both process to fuck each other mercilessly as we talk dirty about what we'll do with her, that's roleplay.

    Not being able to separate fantasy from reality, is me seeing that hot woman, physically going up to her, throwing her at my boyfriend and proceeding to make her do all the nasty things we would otherwise roleplay about.

    The former has nobody harmed; the latter would be a punishable crime.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    If I see a hot woman and think about fucking her, then I go tell my boyfriend about her, and we both process to fuck each other mercilessly as we talk dirty about what we'll do with her, that's roleplay.

    Not being able to separate fantasy from reality, is me seeing that hot woman, physically going up to her, throwing her at my boyfriend and proceeding to make her do all the nasty things we would otherwise roleplay about.

    The former has nobody harmed; the latter would be a punishable crime.
    However if you saw a hot woman and went up to her and told her about you thought about doing sexual things with her with out even a signal that she was receptive to that or some flirting (still not cool after flirting, but it's an analogy) it would be extremely creepy and rude. Sure you would not have physically harmed her, but you would have verbally harassed her and made her uncomfortable.

    I think the important thing here is informed consent. Though I do agree posting the guys face is going too far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant View Post
    However if you saw a hot woman and went up to her and told her about you thought about doing sexual things with her with out even a signal that she was receptive to that or some flirting (still not cool after flirting, but it's an analogy) it would be extremely creepy and rude. Sure you would not have physically harmed her, but you would have verbally harassed her and made her uncomfortable.
    Well, you slightly changed the context there.. Because my hypothetical girl was a random real person, sure that'd be rude as hell. How many times do you get "harassed" by random guys during your shift versus general life? How many guys call you bitch, slut, nice tits, let's see ass, etc - during work? If a guy said any one of those things to us whilst we were, say, going to buy grocieries, that too would be "creepy and rude"! - It would also be harassment...

    But when we're camgirls, we are serving up fantasy. Some guys don't know what the site policies and each individual performers boundaries are. Sure, it's much more polite to ask, but how many do anyway? It's always way more beneficial for the performer if she hardens herself to such a common regularity as guys taking girls private without asking what their boundaries are.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    Well, you slightly changed the context there.. Because my hypothetical girl was a random real person, sure that'd be rude as hell. How many times do you get "harassed" by random guys during your shift versus general life? How many guys call you bitch, slut, nice tits, let's see ass, etc - during work? If a guy said any one of those things to us whilst we were, say, going to buy grocieries, that too would be "creepy and rude"! - It would also be harassment...

    But when we're camgirls, we are serving up fantasy. Some guys don't know what the site policies and each individual performers boundaries are. Sure, it's much more polite to ask, but how many do anyway? It's always way more beneficial for the performer if she hardens herself to such a common regularity as guys taking girls private without asking what their boundaries are.
    I totally agree that it is better as a performer to have a thick skin and not take things like this personally. It would make you go crazy.

    However that doesn't make it ok! Being a sex worker does not equal consent for things outside the norm. Sure, it would be weird if you were upset about a guy asking you to use a toy, but asking about your children does not fall within the norm and acceptable expectations of this job. It is a hugely taboo subject, and the man must know this or he wouldn't have to go to a cam site to fulfill it.

    I guess I have this crazy idea that I am still a person, and people still have to get consent from me.

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    I agree that fantasy and real world are different. I may fantasize about being raped and ask my boyfriend to do a roleplay about it. But this absolutely doesn't mean that I'd like being raped. That's horrible, humiliating and would fuck up my mental health. So those two are different.

    Also, if a pedophilic could keep himself away from the "real" children by doing roleplays with adults and fantasise, let him do it. If it's going to save children, why not. Pedophilia is a psychological disease, and it's hard to cure because if you tell a psychologist that you want to be with a child, if he/she doesn't trust you, you probably end up in a jail. Most of the cases, it's hard to handle it on your own and to get rid of the desire to be with an underage, and they end up finding other ways to keep themselves away from children. I understand that even the thought of such a thing is horrible and no body should be allowed to fantasise about doing it, but it happens. It's one of the horrible facts of the world. As Incantatious said, if they, pedo men on adult sites, were the ones that don't even try to keep themselves away from the children, the weak ones, they would be sitting on a bench at a playground.
    I'm aware of the obcenity and hideousness of the situation, especially for women with children. However, parents should be aware of the danger of not just one man who lives in his fantesies, but all the strangers. This is a fucked up world and you can't trust anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant View Post
    I totally agree that it is better as a performer to have a thick skin and not take things like this personally. It would make you go crazy.

    However that doesn't make it ok! Being a sex worker does not equal consent for things outside the norm. Sure, it would be weird if you were upset about a guy asking you to use a toy, but asking about your children does not fall within the norm and acceptable expectations of this job. It is a hugely taboo subject, and the man must know this or he wouldn't have to go to a cam site to fulfill it.

    I guess I have this crazy idea that I am still a person, and people still have to get consent from me.
    I didn't say anyone had to consent to doing such a show. Nor did I say that being a sex worker does not equal consent.
    I would never say such a thing.

    We all have the right - at ANY time - to decline anything.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    I didn't say anyone had to consent to doing such a show. Nor did I say that being a sex worker does not equal consent.
    I would never say such a thing.

    We all have the right - at ANY time - to decline anything.
    I feel like at this point we are quibbling over wording, so I will just reiterate my original point.

    While I agree with several points you have made about thick skin, and about fantasy being ok, I did not feel like it was ok to tell the OP that she was wrong to be freaked out by this. Yes, you are putting yourself in a situation where you know things like this may happen, and yes you should probably be prepared for that, but that does not make the things okay and it does not invalidate your feelings if you do get upset about it. Though wanting to post the guys face is not ok.

    I think maybe where it got derailed is your post where you said, " Because my hypothetical girl was a random real person, sure that'd be rude as hell," and, "But when we're camgirls, we are serving up fantasy,". The impression I got was that you were saying that by being a camgirl we are implicitly consenting to harassment. Now, my issue is that by being a camgirl we are accepting to be PROPOSED to do things of a fantasy nature with people, we are not consenting to harassment. We are putting ourselves into a position where harassment will happen and we need to expect that. However, that does not mean that harassment is ok and that we shouldn't ever be bothered by it.

    I also want to clarify that I have no problem with people fantasizing about things, even if they are things I do not deem acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant View Post
    I feel like at this point we are quibbling over wording, so I will just reiterate my original point.
    My own hypothetical was demonstrative enough of my point, but your elaboration made me think you may have ever so slightly misinterpreted it. Still relevant imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant View Post
    While I agree with several points you have made about thick skin, and about fantasy being ok, I did not feel like it was ok to tell the OP that she was wrong to be freaked out by this. Yes, you are putting yourself in a situation where you know things like this may happen, and yes you should probably be prepared for that, but that does not make the things okay and it does not invalidate your feelings if you do get upset about it. Though wanting to post the guys face is not ok.
    I didn't tell the OP she was wrong to be freaked out by it.

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant View Post
    I think maybe where it got derailed is your post where you said, " Because my hypothetical girl was a random real person, sure that'd be rude as hell," and, "But when we're camgirls, we are serving up fantasy,". The impression I got was that you were saying that by being a camgirl we are implicitly consenting to harassment. Now, my issue is that by being a camgirl we are accepting to be PROPOSED to do things of a fantasy nature with people, we are not consenting to harassment. We are putting ourselves into a position where harassment will happen and we need to expect that. However, that does not mean that harassment is ok and that we shouldn't ever be bothered by it.

    I also want to clarify that I have no problem with people fantasizing about things, even if they are things I do not deem acceptable.
    It's cool that you have no problem with peoples fantasies, even if they are things you do not deem acceptable. There are a shocking number of people, who want other people locked up, punished or even outright killed and tortured ~ all for simply thinking or fantasizing.

    I wouldn't say she was harassed in the "repeatedly pestered" sense of the word; if you mean she was harassed in the "bothered and annoyed" sense, then yeah. But then we are all harassed in that sense on cam. If she felt harassed in any way, or just hated what he said - of course, she is well within her rights to perma-ban him.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    If you'd have turned on C2C and he had a child on his lap, then I could understand, but it isn't unlawful to roleplay with a legal adult. It is against site policy to roleplay as a minor and whatnot, so I could understand kicking him or whatever.

    It sounds like you are extremely shaken up by this, but in honesty you will get way worse than him.. It is honestly best to prepare yourself.
    I have had people tell me they are going to hang themselves on c2c and do I want to watch them do it? (Chilled me to the core). People tell me they want to kill me, rape me. Have I fucked any family members? Do I have a dog that might fuck me? Any small creatures I can stick inside me?... It is endless. If you can imagine it, you will be asked it.

    He is on a site which enforces strict age requirements for their performers. The guys you need to worry about are those who frequent sites where underage kids hang out. Those are the grooming playgrounds where dangerous child molesters are probably grooming children as we speak. No offence (lol), but why would a pedophile have any interest in your show?

    I'll probably get hate for this, but fuck, this is human nature. - Billions of completely unlawful atrocities are being thought of and fantasized of by perfectly respectable, perfectly sane adults internationally every second - sometimes alone, sometimes with someone who shares their taste. We murder people in our minds, we kill and torture people in video games for our enjoyment and satisfaction and release, we laugh about them, we dedicate art to crime, we slaughter people in fantasy, we rape, are raped, we spank, we shoot, we whip, we torture, we tie up... we do outrageous things in fantasy that we would never want to do in reality. And that is not a crime. Thank fuck - or else we would all be locked up.

    We need his face published? Where? Why? We need to know details about his face because somewhere on the planet, a stout, aging guy with facial hair tried to initiate taboo roleplay with a woman of legal age over a sex site?

    No crime was committed between you and your client. I'm not interested in spreading his face all over the web and warning people about him.

    I agree

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    I am also of the opinion that it is perfectly acceptable to fantasize about whatever you want and role play whatever you want, even if it is taboo. I personally do taboo role play if the site I'm on allows it and I feel like I'd rather pretend I'm a kid and have the guy pretend he's fucking me as a kid than actually have him go out and try to fuck a kid because his fantasies aren't being met.

    I think the outrage comes in when there's an actual "real" child involved- imaginary child or not. If the person Thinks the child is real and wants to know more about her it's crossing the line into reality. Maybe not reality in the sense that the daughter was real, but the reality that this guy may legitimately want to go further sexually with a child or encourage the cam model to. In all the taboo role plays I've done I've never had the customer ask me about specific children like neighbors or siblings or cousins- it was always hypothetical, and that's within my personal comfort zone.

    It's not to say that this guy does or will actually molest children but talking about a specific child in the manner in which he did (and not just an abstraction) would be a cause for concern. I wouldn't say he should never be allowed children because we don't know what if anything he has actually done other than talk, but I do agree that this sounds atypical of most benign taboo role plays and should be investigated.

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    Discussing someones kid (regardless if HE knows it is real ir not) is HIM crossing a boundry he should have the mental capacity to know and understand is wrong.

    His inability to obviously realize ANY respectable mother would never discuss her real life child in a sexual way, says a lot about him

    He caanot sympathize that asking a mother about her very young children would make her uncpmfortable. Invasive and explicit questions being asked by him, would expose infortmation about these "children"....

    The thing with this situation is:

    What if she went along with it? What if it just ENCOURAGED him more?

    You dont know the lengths some people will go to if you feed into their mental illness... Especially if he specifically was seeking out a woman with "REAL children (as far as.he knew).

    I am not sure where the thought that role playing wiyh pedophiles will save any real children. Id like to read studies on this "theory". Because in my mind, if the role play is good enough, real enough, and intense for him....this could have the opposite effect and make him desire "the real thing".

    I did a brother sister roleplay with a guy my 2nd day caming. He had script, made me wear pigtails etc.

    He literally felt guilty after, sent a long apology letter, and deleted his account...

    Do I know why he felt such remorse and shame after? No.....but it made ME feel bad, and made me learn what I am willing or not willing to roleplay.

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    I'm having deja vu. I'm pretty sure this thread exists a couple pages back.

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    no, that's wrong, sorry.....underage role play is one thing with another consenting adult but asking sexual questions about somebody's real life child is another..if he had wanted role play i wouldn't be that freaked (disgusted? sure, because i cannot stand anything having to do with pedophelia, rape, or beastiality, just my boundaries) but im sorry..i can't even..having a kid myself that just makes me die inside thinking about it.

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    America (just assuming) has this weird skewed way of not paying any attention to people with psychological abnormalities. And then things like bombings and shootings happen. I can understand where some of you ladies are coming from about it just being a job and just a fantasy, just keeping him off of the street, etc. But I can also see how not paying attention to these sort of situations can lead to something sick happening. If a man walked up to a woman IRL and said "I want your babies to suck me off" she would have him arrested on the spot and he would be considered a predator.

    How is this any different than what the OP mentioned again?

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    The USA pays attention but with over 300 million people, you are going to have issues. Bombing and shootings aren't always because someone is mentally ill. Some people are fine mentally but have another agenda when they commit violence. It also doesn't just happen only in the USA. It's a worldwide problem.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl_Sugar View Post
    America (just assuming) has this weird skewed way of not paying any attention to people with psychological abnormalities. And then things like bombings and shootings happen. I can understand where some of you ladies are coming from about it just being a job and just a fantasy, just keeping him off of the street, etc. But I can also see how not paying attention to these sort of situations can lead to something sick happening. If a man walked up to a woman IRL and said "I want your babies to suck me off" she would have him arrested on the spot and he would be considered a predator.

    How is this any different than what the OP mentioned again?

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    these assholes are on every website including Facebook.

    A fan felt the heat when he posted on my page.. "your daughter must be sexy, how old is she?"

    most are just undercover

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    Well, speaking of consensual roleplay: I lied that guy about having children, but he ALSO LIED to me, pretending that he was sexually interested in ME, not kids - it was only in pvt that it turned out he was after children. That is damn disturbing. And calling a 5-year-old "sexy"... I could kinda understand the Lolita thing, but if the kid is 3 or 5 - isn't it just SICK? I should have let him stay longer till he maybe asked me to bring someone on cam, but I was afraid i could get caught talking about that shit and get my acct closed. So I don't really know how far he'd go, but the fact that he wasn't open about it from the very beginning disturbs me very much.
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    To say that this is perfectly harmless roleplay is WRONG... You are telling this cam model NOT to trust her own instincts when we all rely on our instincts in this industry.

    One can not say that this is okay in anyway. You are NOT a psychologist & can say with any kind of authority that he will not or does not molest kids in real life. Any person who entertains the idea of sex with a child is SICK!!!! there is NO middle ground, there is NO gray area.

    Anyone who has fantasy where harm is done to another is NOT right. Rape fantasy in general can not be argued in this instance because that has to do with giving up control with someone you know & trust. When one desires children is a sickness that is unforgivable. I can't even call it a sickness but predator, there is NO cure for a predator. Predators NEVER think beyond their own wants & needs, they have no conscience about harming another in order to get what they want. There is NO DEFENDING IT, even under the disguise of fantasy.

    Girl, if it creeped you out, then trust you were totally right to feel that way. Don't let someone who would defend such a predator as harmless & just fantasy. It is against the rules on cam sites for valid reasons. The rules don't just say we can't pretend to be underage, but to discuss underage sex at all.

    Fact is NONE of us have to do a single thing that makes us uncomfortable. We have the choice to block & report such things to the site. There is a time no matter if it is paid chat or not that kind of money isn't worth it. Not to indulge the creep or live with the fact you went there mentally with him.

    I studied psychology in college, one could say those who defend predators once themselves had been victims but this person was a loved one & they now don't have the proper boundaries to know what is right or wrong.

    Stats are a predator doesn't rape just one kid, they rape over 200 before they are caught & put into jail. 3 out of 5 kids will be molested before adulthood. So the stats are more likely that this is more than just a fantasy for this man. 90% of sexually deviant crimes are committed by men.

    Block & report is the proper way to handle the situation.

    Sam

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