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    Hey Ladies!

    How do you feel about camming and getting recorded? I just started camming and found out I got videos out there now I feel so weird about it. I barely started 4 days ago too...ugh I'm having a hard time adjusting to it and knowing its out there. I'm making good money but it does bother me. In a way I wish I never started camming but its too late now...its out there...

    how do you girls feel?

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    Its a big reason why we get paid so much. Its in our job description.

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    I always kind of assumed that we got recorded.. but it wasn't till a month or so after i started camming that I found out about those weird obsessive freaks who post on forums and stuff trading privates, and stuff. o.O and then when it gets spread around enough on tube sites. and by then it was too late, so i kind of know what you mean. it is what it is, you can try and remove them, watermark them, use them as advertisement. we all deal with it in different ways.

    Personally, I remove as much as I can simply because I don't want to be all over the net. One less video out there is so many less views, so many less downloads, so many less shares. and it's honestly to the point where i'm rarely posted online anymore (that i know of, you never know those random uploads that don't link or associate to you in any way). If it gets found I've come to terms and accepted it could happen.

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    The MAIN reason why sites started recording girls was due to 2257 laws....however now sites are beginning to record girls and use the content to promote the sites.

    I really do not care, but I do think about it and ways that I can work the system in my favor. The biggest peeve for me, is on the site I work on, I have no idea when I am being recorded...so for all I know a video could be put up of me farting or picking my nose. If I knew I was being recorded, you bet your ass I'd put it on lol.

    The best thing you can do is WATERMARK your cam feed. This way, if videos end up on tube sites, etc...it has your screenname on it and becomes a form of advertisement for you. Tubes can help but tubes can harm. Tubes harm when affiliates/theives upload your content without using your screenname. This does nothing to promote you. Affiliates can certainly make $$ off of the sales, but if you do not watermark, the viewers will not know how or where to find you. You can watermark your feed with programs like manycam or splitcam.

    I been in this business going on 9 years now and I have never found content of myself that I have not personally uploaded. I am sure it is out there, but to be honest I do not find myself looking for it. Most sites and content theives will not mention your screenname, just a title like "camgirl fucks herself with dildo" so it is hard to find content of myself lol.

    Anyways, when you sign up to certain sites, you are giving away the rights of the content. The content is no longer your content, it is the websites, and they can do what they want with it. If this makes you uncomfortable, I would suggest signing up for sites that allow you to opt-out of using your cam feeds for advertisement. There are a few sites that allow this, but they do not have the best traffic.

    I have also encountered guys who try to blackmail/threaten with videos they have recorded of me...don't fall into this trap. By law, they cannot upload any content on tube sites without 2257 records and a model release, or content that they do not own. If they recorded a camshow, they are not the technical owner of the content. Toss your knowledge of 2257 records and model releases, and that will shut this type up. This knowledge can also help you when you do see a video that could be stolen, you can report it and get it removed...it is a process but it can be done. Unfortunately, there is not much that can be done if a website or affiliate uploads it, because they are the rightful owner of the content.

    Reminds me I had some idiot come into my chat and tell me he wanted to record me and post it on websites so everyone could see what a dirty whore I am. I replied......"I would like that" He ended up leaving 2 seconds later. Most guys who say shit like this just want to get a rise and reaction out of you. If you do not give them one, it leaves them powerless and they shut up and leave u alone.

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    It's an inevitable part of being a cam girl. You just have to hope that the guys who do the recorded are dumb enough to put the videos on websites that actually obey DCMA orders and that they'll ban his IP once they realize he doesn't own anything he uploads.

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    I always kind of assumed that we got recorded.. but it wasn't till a month or so after i started camming that I found out about those weird obsessive freaks who post on forums and stuff trading privates, and stuff. o.O and then when it gets spread around enough on tube sites. and by then it was too late, so i kind of know what you mean. it is what it is, you can try and remove them, watermark them, use them as advertisement. we all deal with it in different ways
    when you sign up to certain sites, you are giving away the rights of the content. The content is no longer your content, it is the websites, and they can do what they want with it.

    ^^^ that's the fact of the matter these days ... that it's increasingly difficult to actually get 'pirated' content that has been posted on other websites removed from those other websites !!! If you don't own the actual copyright, you have no legal basis to force that content to be taken down ( and the 'offending' websites know it ) !!! So this leads to two conclusions ...

    - expect that if you perform on webcam that some form of your images is going to wind up being posted on other sites ... and will thus remain available on the internet - with 'free' access - more or less 'forever'

    - since there is no way to avoid the potential negative consequences of postings on other sites, the only real option is to try and encourage positive consequences to make up for it ... i.e. watermarking your content, posting 'encouraging' comments when your content appears on tube sites, etc., to try and attract more paying webcam customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Hippo View Post
    Hey Ladies!

    How do you feel about camming and getting recorded? I just started camming and found out I got videos out there now I feel so weird about it. I barely started 4 days ago too...ugh I'm having a hard time adjusting to it and knowing its out there. I'm making good money but it does bother me. In a way I wish I never started camming but its too late now...its out there...

    how do you girls feel?
    Hey! I don't like it at all (the recording and uploading to other sites), but I think pretty much every person who works is gonna have something they don't like about their job. I think it helps a little bit that I do penetration only in true private on MyFreeCams, and only in exclusive on Streamate. Those sessions could be recorded/uploaded too, but probably happens less often than the public cum shows that you see assholes bragging about/sharing on other sites.

    Being an adult cam model can limit some of your future opportunities too. Years ago there was a talented Black singer on American Idol named 'Frenchie', and she was eliminated when they found out that she had previously posed nude. Those Miss America pageants disqualify people for their past too, don't they?
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    Another tactic I've used to avoid getting recorded, along with not doing any public shows, is to actually time my private shows and only start showing hardcore stuff like toys, vag, penetration around the 15-minute mark of the show. Seriously, I think it's worked. A pirate isn't going to wait and pay me $3.99-$5.99/min for almost 20 minutes just to get a crappy clip of my vag with a dildo. It's taken a lot of practice but along with having high(er) rates and forcing my shows to stay within the 15-20-minute mark, I'm actively deterring guys from recording me. Pirates want as much profitable content as they can get for as little cost as possible. I make my time and availability just costly enough that it isn't worth it for them to pursue me. If they have to pay at minimum, $60 for a show, just to get to the good part, why bother? I let them go hunt down a cheaper girl they can assume has less to lose and places a lower market-value on her products.

    Extending my shows helps me learn more about the custies and be more attentive to them, too while staying aloof and assertive. If a guy is demanding, I just tell him I don't like to be bossed around and doesn't he want me to have a good time, too? What's his rush? Money shouldn't be his main concern, anyway. He should be confident that he has more than enough to spend on a good time. $60-$100 is nothing to me and it shouldn't be a problem for him, either. If he's complaining about my price and my pace, he can shut the show down any time he wants to. Oh, and I also avoid sites with stupid ratings systems (outside of NF but that's a different strategy) because these same assholes love to hold that over your head, too. Don't like my show? Sucks to be you. Next. Guys who like me REALLY like me and are very active in the show. Of course, this doesn't mean they aren't also recording me and distributing it but it's highly unlikely given how much they're spending versus how little they'd make for the effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivianbear View Post
    Another tactic I've used to avoid getting recorded, along with not doing any public shows, is to actually time my private shows and only start showing hardcore stuff like toys, vag, penetration around the 15-minute mark of the show....

    If they have to pay at minimum, $60 for a show, just to get to the good part, why bother? I let them go hunt down a cheaper girl they can assume has less to lose and places a lower market-value on her products.

    Extending my shows helps me learn more about the custies and be more attentive to them, too while staying aloof and assertive. If a guy is demanding, I just tell him I don't like to be bossed around and doesn't he want me to have a good time, too? What's his rush? Money shouldn't be his main concern, anyway.

    Oh, and I also avoid sites with stupid ratings systems (outside of NF but that's a different strategy) because these same assholes love to hold that over your head, too. Don't like my show? Sucks to be you. Next. Guys who like me REALLY like me and are very active in the show. Of course, this doesn't mean they aren't also recording me and distributing it but it's highly unlikely given how much they're spending versus how little they'd make for the effort.
    I think I love you. Like, this is brilliant and very skilled. I've realized lately that I have been rushing through my privates JUST to make them happy and make them go away and its killing my earnings. I'm on Streamate so I can't afford the bad rating, but if they start the chat with "Get naked quick" I just kick them the fuck out. Not worth the money to rush me. But damn. This is just... @[email protected] Wow. Awesome


    Back on-topic.
    I was bummed when I found out I was distributed by SM. Onto PornHub. And now a bunch of losers took the vids from PornHub and put them on international sites. So they're all over. I have a professional career in my future so it SUCKS. But... I need money now, I'm paying for my education now. Somewhere in the country is going to need a PA regardless of background. The best I can do is keep my grades up, start working as a phlebotomist and do camming part-time, and hope for the best.

    If all else fails, I have great adult industry experience to run off of...

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    I just feel like it sucks that it can happen. It sucks that people can discriminate against you as an employer if you don't have a criminal history but are a stripper or cam model. But god forbid they discriminate against age , race , or weight ect. You should be given a choice whether you want a site to use your content and you should be receiving $$ for every view. Tube sites should only be able to buy vids from reputable sites. Not just anyone. *sigh* but in a perfect world I'd be making $1,000 a day just to wake up and put my makeup on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl_Sugar View Post
    I was bummed when I found out I was distributed by SM. Onto PornHub. And now a bunch of losers took the vids from PornHub and put them on international sites. So they're all over.
    I feel you. I actually think it's fucking vile that SM, itself distros that content. It's such a huge disservice to the models and tehy have to know this. The least they could do is give models the option to distro clips to major tube-sites and attach their own affiliate links. That way, the model is at least standing to make something from the image floating out there!

    The one clip that I found on a couple of tube-sites was one I sold when I was a super-newb and didn't yet know how to mark my own vids, using iMovies. Very stupid of me. I'm sure someone just bought it for $5 and went hog-wild passing it around. Like was mentioned, it wasn't even listed under my name. I just got really curious, one day and went on a google-spree of myself, typing in pretty much any combination of my name or descriptors I've used. After a while, one site came up. Then another. And another. So lame.

    I really should get on having them taken down. I've had one or two custies (when I first started doing member shows, mostly) get just as curious adn go so far as to dig them up. But they're on really innocuous and obscure sites. It would probably be a no-brainer to snipe them but they aren't hurting my business or personal life so I keep procrastinating. Maybe I'll make that my 2014 NYE Resolution.
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    [QUOTE=Pearl_Sugar;2486267]I think I love you. Like, this is brilliant and very skilled. I've realized lately that I have been rushing through my privates JUST to make them happy and make them go away and its killing my earnings. I'm on Streamate so I can't afford the bad rating, but if they start the chat with "Get naked quick" I just kick them the fuck out. Not worth the money to rush me. But damn. This is just... @[email protected] Wow. Awesome

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    how do you kick them out? just ban them? i've been wondering this a while because i HATE putting up with some of their bullshit just to avoid a bad rating

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    As long as my screen name and website was on there, I really don't care... Free promotion!

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    Eh, I don't like it but I kind of don't really even care anymore. I have only found one clip of myself, but then I don't really go looking either. I didn't even try to take it down because I know SM is the one who gave it to the tube site in the first place so I didn't even bother trying fighting it since I did agree to that when I signed my contract.

    I'm already out to everyone except my rental leasing office, if someone I know found random clips of me it would be weird but I'd probably never know anyway.

    The reason I don't like it is because I kind of look at it like stealing. It's like if I owned a deli and I guy came in and bought one sandwich but then stole 1,000 more sandwiches right from under my nose to give to people waiting outside who will never pay. Yay I made a sale on that one sandwich but boo, so many people got my product for nothing? I guess the difference is, in that scenario I would have had to invest lots of money in a product and that would result in a deficit for me. With camming I'm not actually losing out on money I've already put in, I'm losing out on potential sales of guys who are too cheap to do a live show but it's not actually costing me anything. So it sucks, but, what can you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrownFox View Post
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    Being an adult cam model can limit some of your future opportunities too. Years ago there was a talented Black singer on American Idol named 'Frenchie', and she was eliminated when they found out that she had previously posed nude.
    I didn't think that was fair.lol A few seasons later a non-black contestant had nude photos/leaked sex tape and she didn't get eliminated.

    Same thing with Miss America as well.

    But back on topic being recorded sucks. I've been recorded for the first time just recently. I thought it was my regular at first but it turned out to be someone else that wound up trying to blackmail me.lol Vivian's advice is great but useless if a guy has figured how to jump in on a private without paying. But MFC and SM are pretty safe regarding this/have patched up issues regarding this.

    How big do you guys make the watermark? I for my pic sets I wish I could put it over my face.lol I'm trying to find a balance of not making my content appear ugly but not having it so the watermark could be easily cropped out.


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    I hate it. I think it's wrong, greedy of the companies, but it's something I signed up for. I don't think they the companies record until after you've been there 30+ days. AKA you've surpassed their contractual rights. I read the fine print on SM and basically they don't have the rights to do much until after you've surpassed the 30 day contract. They have to take down your photos, etc if you cancel their agreement within 30 days. There may be holes in what I'm saying but that's at least what I've read.

    It's something I hope doesn't happen, but I think I'd be okay with it once I find out. I mean, if I plan on making and selling clips and camming all the time, it's bound to happen. If I see any non white labels I'll probably opt to take them down. I like the idea of waiting to take off your clothes but their are some guys who record because you're expensive, the private is longer, and they'd rather not pay again. They figure, they've spent $60-100 on the private, it may as well be theirs to do what they want because it cost more than a DVD and they can't watch it again if they don't have SM monthly video account.




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    Hey thanks for the respond ladies

    When I mean recorded is that there are loser guys that record you and put the video on this forum where other cheap ass loser guys share videos of other girls they recorded. If it was the cam site that was recording than I would feel a little different but since it was this group of loser guys that recorded and sharing it around for free is whats pissing me off... I guess I'm a porn star now hehe :/

    alwell but mfc has been so great for me i can't even complain, I think I might write a post about it later.

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    there is a literal sea of us out there. i've only seen myself once or twice, but it gets buried.

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    Is there a thread on here that tells us how to remove, watermark, etc?

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    Stop showing things in free chat. I bet the videos you found are what some freeloader captured of your 'public shows' right? Yeah stop doing public shows if you don't want your shows all over camforums. I did a few public shows and I've spent about 30hours removing them and the image thumbnails from the internet. They pop up every now and then but Im a boss at removing them now. Low and behold though none of my 500+ PRIVATE shows or content-videos-for-sale have NEVER appeared on the internet. Hmm???????? and if they do they dont have my camname on them which doesnt bother me in the slightest because then it's just a vid of some randomer with no name. /care.

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