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    Angry Extras in the damn club.

    They make me fucking sick.

    I keep reading the posts around here, on stripclublist, on TUSCL, and others, and am thoroughly nauseated.

    I have said it over and over, but I really feel like this needs to be out there.

    What ever happened to selling SEXUALITY in the strip club?

    I'm here to tease you, dance angelically, flutter my eyelashes at you, make you laugh, make you feel important, etc.

    I'm NOT here to have sex with you. Escorts are for that and they will do it quite enthusiastically and SAFELY!

    Want extras? Get the fuck away from me.


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    Default Re: Extras in the damn club.

    This is a topic that I have to deal with on a regular basis I work in Detroit. Every time I work I'm surrounded by extras girls. Over time I've learned to push through it, but it's a constant struggle not to let it bother me. On the other hand, the extras girls here don't seem to be very good hustle skills (go figure, doing extras doesn't require social skills) and the going rate for extras in Detroit is very cheap so I tend to make more money than most of them, but it still creates an uneven playing field that just isn't fair. A friend and I used to travel almost every weekend last summer to a club a few hours away from Detroit for the sole purpose of getting away from extras. It was very relieving. I can't wait to move out of Detroit for law school and dance in a city that isn't filled with extras.

    There are only two clubs in metro Detroit (out of like 50) that are pretty much free of extras and I've been wanting to try one of them out. I may go to one of them tonight as a customer with a guy friend of mine. If it's busy and looks like there's earning potential I'll definitely talk to the manager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nina_ View Post
    This is a topic that I have to deal with on a regular basis I work in Detroit. Every time I work I'm surrounded by extras girls. Over time I've learned to push through it, but it's a constant struggle not to let it bother me. On the other hand, the extras girls here don't seem to be very good hustle skills (go figure, doing extras doesn't require social skills) and the going rate for extras in Detroit is very cheap so I tend to make more money than most of them, but it still creates an uneven playing field that just isn't fair. A friend and I used to travel almost every weekend last summer to a club a few hours away from Detroit for the sole purpose of getting away from extras. It was very relieving. I can't wait to move out of Detroit for law school and dance in a city that isn't filled with extras.

    There are only two clubs in metro Detroit (out of like 50) that are pretty much free of extras and I've been wanting to try one of them out. I may go to one of them tonight as a customer with a guy friend of mine. If it's busy and looks like there's earning potential I'll definitely talk to the manager.
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    ^ Thank you I actually went to the non-extras club I mentioned with my friend and went up to the manager and said, "so if I want to get hired here what should I do?" His response: "Nothing. You're hired." So I will definitely try it out as soon as it fits in with my schedule. Looks like there's money potential there on certain nights.
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    I have always hated this but used to feel better by telling myself that if the extras girls had half the looks and personality of the non-prostitutes, they wouldn't be extras girls.

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    ^Sorry but that's not always the case. Just want to put it out there that not all extras girls are ugly and/or have rotten personalities...and they can/will make more money than us.

    I don't appreciate extras in the club at all, so I can sympathize. It sucks but there will always be girls that do more, say more, look better, etc. Just focus on improving your own hustle and your own money.

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    Some extras girls I knew were pretty hot and I've met ones that were not so hot and probably felt the need to do them. As a boss I've had said, some girls just get greedy and want more money than they made when not doing extras.

    It does suck that a lot of them do it in the clubs though. Interestingly enough I once overheard a conversation between two girls who might have been doing extras. "At least they have security here, otherwise I would have just went out and done escorting." I guess they didn't realize that if they went indie then they could probably hire their own security (at least that's my understanding from reading other threads).

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    The going rate for extras is very low in Detroit so the extras girls here don't make that much. I've always been one of the top earners at every Detroit club I've worked at so I usually make more than the majority of the extras girls.

    Not all extras girls are ugly, but you rarely find an extras girl (at least here in Detroit) who's as articulate and has as good of conversational skills as a clean dancer who makes good money. So I definitely believe there is a personality difference.
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    The trickiest ones are the girls who offer extras, but only to high rollers who are willing to spend. So they're psychotic hustlers who are also willing to go the "extra mile" to land whales in the CR.

    However, those girls tend to be pretty damn rare; as Nina mentioned, usually extras girls don't have good hustling skills. So as long as I don't pay attention to what they're doing (I imagine myself as having those horse blinders on), their shit doesn't affect me. My goal is to walk out with no memory of what other girls were working and what they were wearing (as I've mentioned before).

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    Default Re: Extras in the damn club.

    As a side note, I seriously love prostitutes - wish I could do the job myself, actually (I love reading their posts on tumblr). This isn't an anti-escort thread. This is very clearly an anti-extras thread. Undercutting with illegal services ain't cool.


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    It's not something I have to compete with, and I'm thankful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    The trickiest ones are the girls who offer extras, but only to high rollers who are willing to spend. So they're psychotic hustlers who are also willing to go the "extra mile" to land whales in the CR.
    I met a few of these, but usually in the more glitzy styled clubs. I usually met the less articulate extras girls in more mid-tier type clubs (although they were also in the bigger ones too).

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    To be fair extras were going on even when I danced though not as common as they are now. The difference I think is back then the extras were generally going on outside the club. Also not to stereotype but the ones doing extras in clubs I worked at tended to be the uglier/heavier/older dancers who couldn't make money just dancing.

    I am always sad when I read stories like this and I cringe for what has happened. What was considered an extra back then is now the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    This isn't an anti-escort thread. This is very clearly an anti-extras thread. Undercutting with illegal services ain't cool.
    Oh, definitely. Escorts rock, it's bitches that are mixing our separate industries. Yes, we are all technically sex workers, but we are selling two different products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    T So as long as I don't pay attention to what they're doing (I imagine myself as having those horse blinders on), their shit doesn't affect me. My goal is to walk out with no memory of what other girls were working and what they were wearing (as I've mentioned before).
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    Agreed on the escorts (which I forgot to mention). I have no problem with escorts and always considered them different than dancing. Yes technically both sell sex but one is literally having sex(yes I know not all escorts have sex)and the other selling fantasy. I've mentioned this before but many years ago I did a bachelor party and as I was leaving I saw a couple of women coming in. I asked the one guy if they were also going to dance and he replied "no they are coming to take care of the men". I didn't care to be honest and preferred that to men asking me if I offered it. I don't think it hurt my money either since I left with several hundred dollars in tips.

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    Ladies, I have to apologize for my post. I had a wisdom tooth pulled that day, so I was in a lot of pain and not really paying attention. My post came off sounding like I hate all escorts and they're ugly and lack personality. This is absolutely not my view. I have respect for girls escorting outside the club and know that their trade brings beautiful homes and plush lifestyles. Who I dislike are girls who get hired as dancers but go beyond the call of duty and provide sexual services, making it harder on girls who are talented, gorgeous, and intelligent. To sum it up, all I was trying to get across was that strippers belong in a strip club to strip, not to give anything that ends in "job". Again, my apologies.

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    Default Re: Extras in the damn club.

    IME it's always the ones you LEAST expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    IME it's always the ones you LEAST expect.
    I used to get surprised when I'd find out certain girls did extras, but now that I've been dancing in Detroit almost two years the surprise element is gone lol. Extras are so widespread here that it's easy to tell who does and who doesn't. The easiest way is when a guy who clearly is just there for extras asks me if I do them, I tell him no, then he moves on to another girl and within 60 seconds they're heading to the VIP. Those girls aren't fooling anyone.
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    I have no problem with extras girls just the ones that charge extremley low for no reason. I'm far from a rate snob but $40 for head is in-fuckin-sane. I've escorted and stripped and I wouldn't have a problem doing it in the club if I was offered enough. People can judge me but I have a daughter to take care of and I'll do whatever I have to.

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    ^ That's a nice excuse! There are lots of single mothers who dance. I'm one of them and have been for 16 years! I wouldn't lower myself to do extras! In my opinion that's why we dance as single mothers, to make in one night what most people earn in a few weeks at a regular job. In my opinion if that's the only way you can make money in this business then you don't belong in it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    ^ That's a nice excuse! There are lots of single mothers who dance. I'm one of them and have been for 16 years! I wouldn't lower myself to do extras! In my opinion that's why we dance as single mothers, to make in one night what most people earn in a few weeks at a regular job. In my opinion if that's the only way you can make money in this business then you don't belong in it!
    I agree completely. If a girl can't make money stripping and wants to engage in prostitution, then she should be an escort or move to Nevada or somewhere outside the country where prostitution is llegal. Prostitution does not belong in strip clubs and the fact that clubs are becoming infested with this is unacceptable. Single mothers with hustle skills can and do make plenty of money being clean.

    edited because there was a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    ^ That's a nice excuse! There are lots of single mothers who dance. I'm one of them and have been for 16 years! I wouldn't lower myself to do extras! In my opinion that's why we dance as single mothers, to make in one night what most people earn in a few weeks at a regular job. In my opinion if that's the only way you can make money in this business then you don't belong in it!
    Whatever. I Really don't care who doesn't like it so save the shaming tactics. I highly doubt you're going to give me money out of your pocket so again save your self righteous bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nina_ View Post
    I agree completely. If a girl can't make money stripping and wants to engage in prostitution, then she should be an escort or move to Nevada or somewhere outside the country where prostitution is illegal. Prostitution does not belong in strip clubs and the fact that clubs are becoming infested with this is unacceptable. Single mothers with hustle skills can and do make plenty of money being clean.

    Who said anything about not being able to make money? If your hustle isn't strong enough to compete with extras girls maybe it's you who needs to reconsider stripping. I've worked in clubs where girls did extras and I didn't and still made money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vixenluv View Post
    Who said anything about not being able to make money? If your hustle isn't strong enough to compete with extras girls maybe it's you who needs to reconsider stripping. I've worked in clubs where girls did extras and I didn't and still made money.


    I work in what is probably the worst city in the country in terms of extras (Detroit), I don't do extras, and I am THE top earner at the club I work at. I've been a top earner at every Detroit club I've danced at. Also, notice how I was talking to Michele11, not you.
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