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    Quote Originally Posted by JadeNicole View Post
    In my opinion I think girls who bitch about "extras" girls generally do a dis service to us all. If dancer a makes more than dancer b and b thinks less of her anyway she's going tp presume it's because she blew someguy in VIP or CR. In fact it's probably an ATF situation or how she hustles or markets herself that makes the difference.
    Well, I disagree. I don't see how bitching about extras girls is a disservice to all dancers. I just fail to see the logic in that. The issue here isn't about pointing fingers at girls who make more money than you and accusing them of doing extras. I would hope that no one here does that. I certainly don't do that. Not only does almost no one at my club make more than me, but I have never pointed fingers at a girl and accused her of doing extras out of assumption. Any girl I "label" as an extras girl is someone who I actually know does extras. I'm not juvenile enough to call someone an extras girl just because she's making money. And when I do realize a girl does extras, I don't get in her face about it; I may vent to my [clean] girlfriends about it, but that's about it.
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    I feel like the word "extra" in this industry is constantly evolving. I currently work in a stage only club, and by my understading there was a point in SC history when stage only was the norm. Perhaps it is a bit of a threadjack, but I wonder how lapdances came to be the norm? Was there an extras girl way back in the day who openly straddled some customer, perhaps in a drunken stupor--only to unknowingly birth this new revolution?

    What we consider to be an extra in one era becomes the standard in the next. It's a pretty interesting process.

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    Soon we will all be escorts.

    No more strippers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsepmet1 View Post
    Soon we will all be escorts.

    No more strippers.

    That was the unsettling thought I had on the way home from work tonite - this industry is becoming too overrun w/ actual sex to actually make a consistent living anymore on just the fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsepmet1 View Post
    Soon we will all be escorts.

    No more strippers.
    ^ I fear it's heading in that direction. Camming is taking that turn as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyButter View Post
    I feel like the word "extra" in this industry is constantly evolving. I currently work in a stage only club, and by my understading there was a point in SC history when stage only was the norm. Perhaps it is a bit of a threadjack, but I wonder how lapdances came to be the norm? Was there an extras girl way back in the day who openly straddled some customer, perhaps in a drunken stupor--only to unknowingly birth this new revolution?

    What we consider to be an extra in one era becomes the standard in the next. It's a pretty interesting process.
    technically in most states there not legal. I learned that here in florida when they started busting bikini clubs. We had toi have a license to work there and we all got tiuckets in the mail for lap dances or lewd and lucivious . They never even came in the club. Then years later when I didn't dance here anymore a club was busted in my area for lap dancing and the lawyer said that in most states any sexual arousal in exchange for money constitutes as prostitution. They have rules against lap dancing at most clubs here even tampa has a 3or 6 foot rulke they enacted around 8 years ago but they don't enforce it, it's usually election year anyone finds out about these rules. But yeah technically lap dances are illegal in most states they just don't waste the funds to enforce it.

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    I've never had a problem making money at either types of clubs. For the busy, low contact clubs, I hustle faster, spending less time talking to customers and talking to a higher volume. For the high contact clubs, I spend more time with the more wholesome customers and cultivate regulars who just want clean dances. I invest my time in them and instead of dancing for a higher number of men and dealing with getting propositioned all the time, I have a few regulars who know when I'll be at the club, who know my limits, and my time is essentially booked with them. All I have to do is show up. It's all about strategy surrounding your circumstances. I've never cared or complained about extras girls because they don't affect my money. I do. And as long as I can make the kind of money I make dancing, barring any unsafe/unclean environments, what the other girls do isn't of my concern or energy.

    And I think there will always be strippers, because a lot of men aren't looking for sex. They're looking for companionship. They're looking for attention. They're looking for an ego boost from a hot woman telling them how wonderful they are, regardless of how far from the truth is is. A lot of men will pay for just that, because they don't get that at home or wherever else for various reasons.
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    I agree that I think there will always be strippers. And when extras disappear from clubs is when they become readily available elsewhere. By readily I mean legally, and safely. It's true that not all men want sex, but what is happening in my opinion is that prostitution has always been desired by men, but now that it is becoming less and less taboo to sell sex, without the laws being updated to reflect modern views. this creates an unhappy environment for all involved in the surrounding industries. Men go to strip clubs looking for sex only because liscensed brothels do not exist yet. Yes they can go on the internet or call an agency, but in these situations you don't actually SEE or INTERACT with the girl before she arrives. Then you're stuck with her. I can see the appeal for the customer that clubs with lots of extras girls are ideal for them because they can look and chat with a range of sp's and then select their favourite. I would ideally like to see brothels situated near clubs, or even connected to clubs. I don't see them being liscensed for liquor, at least not right away, so this would create an additional draw and bring customers to the club if they want to drink, have a dance, they can do that in the club, they get horny and want to fuck some girl, they can go to the brothel. In this structure there should be no more extras girls because the penalties for illegally doing something that is now legal in certain contexts outweigh the benefits. And also why would a customer do something illegal (sex in a strip club) when they could go accross the street and get it legally, in a liscensed, separate environment. Everyone wins.
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    Also: While in many situations it is possible to still make money in extras clubs, other times it's just not. There is a huge difference between a lot of customers coming in asking for extras and the customers coming to a bar pretty much exclusively for the extras. In the later case it's like a needle in a haystack trying to find guys who just want clean dances. The former is exhausting but you can still find some customers who just wander into the bar and want a few dances. One bar I've worked at on and off for the last 2 years has gone super downhill since I started. It's always been an extras place, but before it used to be full of really ugly chicks doing extras, and pretty busy. Now it is brimming with a bunch of pimped out 18-20 year old beautiful girls. And there are less customers than ever to go around. It's a disaster. There is a threshold that once crossed, you just can't make money, and it's usually a few different factors working together.
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    ^ I agree.
    I've also wondered why anyone would pay an exorbitant amount of money for a service in a cramped space for a few minutes with other people looking instead of booking a whole hour with someone for less money where you can actually relax and be alone with the woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ameena View Post
    I've never had a problem making money at either types of clubs. For the busy, low contact clubs, I hustle faster, spending less time talking to customers and talking to a higher volume. For the high contact clubs, I spend more time with the more wholesome customers and cultivate regulars who just want clean dances. I invest my time in them and instead of dancing for a higher number of men and dealing with getting propositioned all the time, I have a few regulars who know when I'll be at the club, who know my limits, and my time is essentially booked with them. All I have to do is show up. It's all about strategy surrounding your circumstances. I've never cared or complained about extras girls because they don't affect my money. I do. And as long as I can make the kind of money I make dancing, barring any unsafe/unclean environments, what the other girls do isn't of my concern or energy.

    And I think there will always be strippers, because a lot of men aren't looking for sex. They're looking for companionship. They're looking for attention. They're looking for an ego boost from a hot woman telling them how wonderful they are, regardless of how far from the truth is is. A lot of men will pay for just that, because they don't get that at home or wherever else for various reasons.
    +1. Totally agree.


    Quote Originally Posted by Odette View Post
    I agree that I think there will always be strippers. And when extras disappear from clubs is when they become readily available elsewhere. By readily I mean legally, and safely. It's true that not all men want sex, but what is happening in my opinion is that prostitution has always been desired by men, but now that it is becoming less and less taboo to sell sex, without the laws being updated to reflect modern views. this creates an unhappy environment for all involved in the surrounding industries. Men go to strip clubs looking for sex only because liscensed brothels do not exist yet. Yes they can go on the internet or call an agency, but in these situations you don't actually SEE or INTERACT with the girl before she arrives. Then you're stuck with her. I can see the appeal for the customer that clubs with lots of extras girls are ideal for them because they can look and chat with a range of sp's and then select their favourite. I would ideally like to see brothels situated near clubs, or even connected to clubs. I don't see them being liscensed for liquor, at least not right away, so this would create an additional draw and bring customers to the club if they want to drink, have a dance, they can do that in the club, they get horny and want to fuck some girl, they can go to the brothel. In this structure there should be no more extras girls because the penalties for illegally doing something that is now legal in certain contexts outweigh the benefits. And also why would a customer do something illegal (sex in a strip club) when they could go accross the street and get it legally, in a liscensed, separate environment. Everyone wins.
    It does seem like society in general is becoming less and less sensitized to sex, violence and other crude behavior. Like you said, selling sex is becoming less of a taboo.
    Despite this I remain optimistic. During a period of time when sex is not taboo, modesty will find it's place. It only makes sense to the simple fact that we are wired to want what we can't have and what is not available. IMO in this case I believe modesty can be a commodity in 'liberal times' simply because it's not the norm. There are plenty of examples of this but I'm too damn tired today.

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    Idk... when I look at areas such as the PI, Thailand and Singapore, I can't help but to wonder if the exact opposite would eventually happen? Where, rather than co-existance, brothels have essentially absorbed stripping, and you are left with a scenario where girls provide the best of both worlds (I.e entertainment, stage-show, conversation, and full service).

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    Then how do you explain top-tier nonnude cam models, burlesque shows, and bikini bars? They still exist for a reason.

    Fine here's the scenario: Imagine every place is a brothel, it most likely wouldn't stay that way. Eventually people will tire of that, then what? Brothels have been around FOREVER, yes before stripping and camming ever came about. Yet stripping did come about and later camming did. Ask yourself why would stripping evolve AFTER brothels....and then camming AFTER stripclubs. It doesn't make sense to 'average paycheck joe' where he's only interested in stretching a dollar. But to the rest, it makes sense: variety is the spice of life.

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    there will always be bachelor and birthday parties. over time we may see a steady decline of high rollers, regular guys in the 100-200k salary range dropping $500 every once in a while for a room, but the young parties are just looking for that-a party. these bachelors arent looking to get fucked, its just a group of 5 guys having fun and part of that fun is specifically getting a stripper to hang out and run her tits in his face but nothing more. as long as clubs keep their fees and amount of girls reasonable then dancing will always be decent money.

    I think waitressing will be better money on average tho very soon. more and more ppl are getting into buying bottles and in a lot of places its common for all the clubs to make the hosts and waitresses split tips, so youll always do well. I have a friend whos a bartender at a cheap dive bar thats always dead and she still makes $200-500 in tips on top of her hourly. if I wasn't studying for the gres right now and needed to take weeks off at a time I would get a waitress or host job immediately.

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     I've never had a problem making money at either types of clubs. For the busy, low contact clubs, I hustle faster, spending less time talking to customers and talking to a higher volume. For the high contact clubs, I spend more time with the more wholesome customers and cultivate regulars who just want clean dances. I invest my time in them and instead of dancing for a higher number of men and dealing with getting propositioned all the time, I have a few regulars who know when I'll be at the club, who know my limits, and my time is essentially booked with them. All I have to do is show up. It's all about strategy surrounding your circumstances. I've never cared or complained about extras girls because they don't affect my money. I do. And as long as I can make the kind of money I make dancing, barring any unsafe/unclean environments, what the other girls do isn't of my concern or energy. 
    
    And I think there will always be strippers, because a lot of men aren't looking for sex. They're looking for companionship. They're looking for attention. They're looking for an ego boost from a hot woman telling them how wonderful they are, regardless of how far from the truth is is. A lot of men will pay for just that, because they don't get that at home or wherever else for various reasons.
    My feelings exactly! You just wrote how I have been feeling for years! I am not competitive in the traditional sense so I know I am in control of my earnings, and I know how to make good money in a way that doesn't compromise my boundaries. Crowd mentality won't change that, but it will continue to affect the industry over time. I never understood the concept of 'Stealing a customer' either, because a customer Is free to make a choice and no 2 girls offer an identical experience.

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    It's been my experience that usually the complainers are the low earners. Just my opinion don't hate me for it!

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    So if I did OTC youd vent to your clean girlfriends that I was doing extras.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nina_ View Post
    Well, I disagree. I don't see how bitching about extras girls is a disservice to all dancers. I just fail to see the logic in that. The issue here isn't about pointing fingers at girls who make more money than you and accusing them of doing extras. I would hope that no one here does that. I certainly don't do that. Not only does almost no one at my club make more than me, but I have never pointed fingers at a girl and accused her of doing extras out of assumption. Any girl I "label" as an extras girl is someone who I actually know does extras. I'm not juvenile enough to call someone an extras girl just because she's making money. And when I do realize a girl does extras, I don't get in her face about it; I may vent to my [clean] girlfriends about it, but that's about it.

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    There should be no nothing as a strippers customer being only theirs. If they like stripper a and see her 10 times but suddenly they like stripper b then a shouldn't get bent out of shape about it. It's life!

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     I've never had a problem making money at either types of clubs. For the busy, low contact clubs, I hustle faster, spending less time talking to customers and talking to a higher volume. For the high contact clubs, I spend more time with the more wholesome customers and cultivate regulars who just want clean dances. I invest my time in them and instead of dancing for a higher number of men and dealing with getting propositioned all the time, I have a few regulars who know when I'll be at the club, who know my limits, and my time is essentially booked with them. All I have to do is show up. It's all about strategy surrounding your circumstances. I've never cared or complained about extras girls because they don't affect my money. I do. And as long as I can make the kind of money I make dancing, barring any unsafe/unclean environments, what the other girls do isn't of my concern or energy. 
    
    
    There should be no nothing as a strippers customer being only theirs. If they like stripper a and see her 10 times but suddenly they like stripper b then a shouldn't get bent out of shape about it. It's life! 
    
    And I think there will always be strippers, because a lot of men aren't looking for sex. They're looking for companionship. They're looking for attention. They're looking for an ego boost from a hot woman telling them how wonderful they are, regardless of how far from the truth is is. A lot of men will pay for just that, because they don't get that at home or wherever else for various reasons.
    My feelings exactly! You just wrote how I have been feeling for years! I am not competitive in the traditional sense so I know I am in control of my earnings, and I know how to make good money in a way that doesn't compromise my boundaries. Crowd mentality won't change that, but it will continue to affect the industry over time. I never understood the concept of 'Stealing a customer' either, because a customer Is free to make a choice and no 2 girls offer an identical experience.[/QUOTE]

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    I agree tht girls suckin and fuckin inside the club for $100 is whts makin it hard for dancers to make money but i agree tht sum ppl have to do wht they have to do to survive.....i have heard and seen girls suckn or fuckin for $40 n da club like pimp c said... Tht aint no money but u have to remember some of them $40 hoes r on drugs

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    I know I speak for others in this thread when I say that I may complain a lot and loudly about extras girls + club conditions in general when I'm not working. But when I do go in to work, I put all of this aside and focus on making my money.

    What's helpful about threads like these is that girls who feel like their situation is unique (extras becoming more rampant, contact expectations rising, etc.) can come to StripperWeb and find a community of people who empathize with what they're going through. It helps us place our individual experiences in a more collective conscience. Which helps me cope, personally.

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    i think what i mind the most is the extras girl giving real strippers a bad name. it takes a lot to strip, and sucking dick for 150 is not that. that's not even a good escort, that's like a street hooker, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    i think what i mind the most is the extras girl giving real strippers a bad name. it takes a lot to strip, and sucking dick for 150 is not that. that's not even a good escort, that's like a street hooker, sorry.
    I dunno. I don't think price matters much. Honestly, sucking dick isn't that big of a deal (says the asexual who's gone down on one person in her life). $150 is $150. If you suck a guy off using a condom and it takes 5-10 minutes, that doesn't sound like a bad deal to me. Especially when you consider that the $150 could provide a family with food for a month, or put gas in someone's car so they can keep their job. But even without the survivalist scenarios, money is money. The difference between a $40 blowjob and a $150+ blowjob is pretty arbitrary when you think about it.

    I just don't want it going down in da club!

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    yeah but the cheaper it is, the worse it is to me ( in the club)..because not only do the guys expect extras, they expect them to be super cheap so the thought of paying for a dance or 2 that costs the same as a blow job. would be laughable to them. i think it also depends on the person, blow jobs are VERY personal to me..i would rather fuck ten guys with a condom than blow one guy. i just feel like puking unless it somebody im really attracted to. to me charging way less for something is kind of undercutting, i hate it lol. i once gave my customer a two for one and had a ton of girls tell the manager and want to jump me! it was ridiculous

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    ^Ah, I gotcha. Yes - price of extras becomes important ITC.

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    150 is still low. Maybe 250-300.

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