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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    It takes a little swallowing of pride to say that I must have done something that made me seem like a goofy pushover in her eyes
    Well, you may have done something but, based on what I've seen over the years, just showing up with cash could have been enough. Tipping for time is a green light for a lot of girls that a guy has money. That my have been all it took. It's also quite possible that she just tries it with every guy who spends a few bucks and is not a jerk. There's lots of bad hustle out there nowadays.
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    I'm running into a string of these girls from the same club, and it is one of the nicest ones in this area.

    First there was the girl that led me to starting this thread. Next there was the atrocious OTC night with another girl from this same club.

    And now this text, which came from yet another girl who I met one time and spent one hour with in the club a few nights ago:


    Hey its XXX how r u? I have a big emergency work was real bad and I cant pay my hotel can u help me please


    I really have to start working on whatever vibe I'm giving off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    I'm running into a string of these girls from the same club, and it is one of the nicest ones in this area.

    First there was the girl that led me to starting this thread. Next there was the atrocious OTC night with another girl from this same club.

    And now this text, which came from yet another girl who I met one time and spent one hour with in the club a few nights ago:


    Hey its XXX how r u? I have a big emergency work was real bad and I cant pay my hotel can u help me please


    I really have to start working on whatever vibe I'm giving off.
    You're not just a wallet...you're a friendly wallet. What is there to work on? :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    I really have to start working on whatever vibe I'm giving off.
    A good place to start might be your practice of handing out $120 for dancers to kill time with you at the bar while still trying to sell dances to other guys in the room. In their eyes that makes you an easy way to get something for nothing. Then, once you expect them to actually provide for you, they don't see any reason to make the effort.

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    She is a professional looking to expand her client base. I don't see the question here. There is a strata in every club that strips just to meet potential outside customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    I suppose that a "just hire an escort" comment was inevitable in a thread on the pink side that touches upon OTC. I think that the opinions of both sides of this debate are well known and understood by all parties, but I honestly don't really see this as a thread about p4p OTC. Nor, for that matter, do I really think that she was looking for a sugardaddy. In this instance, I think that this was simply a girl who came under the mistaken impression that she found an easy mark and treated him accordingly.

    It takes a little swallowing of pride to say that I must have done something that made me seem like a goofy pushover in her eyes, but there it is. She had no qualms at all about feeding me a string of bullshit and then asking me to meet her to "loan" her money after one face to face meeting in the club over a month ago. She must have really thought that she had a live one - lol. I don't believe for one second that she was trying to get to the club that night. In fact, I don't think that she works there at all anymore. Also, you can probably insert "medicine", "diapers", etc., in for "groceries" and it doesn't really matter what she was supposedly going to use the money for - I think that her real point in doing this was to get a gullible customer to meet her somewhere and hand her money.

    Too funny.
    Your putting to much thought into this and really giving her too much credit! She's probably a druggie who wanted money to do some drugs instead of having to actually work. She's obviously an idiot if you only gave her(I foirgot what you said) something like 130in 90 minutes and she thought you were going to be a great target to just call up and get money out of. I'm glad there are so many stupid dancers out there today....just means more money for someone who actually knows how to do this job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    I'm running into a string of these girls from the same club, and it is one of the nicest ones in this area.

    First there was the girl that led me to starting this thread. Next there was the atrocious OTC night with another girl from this same club.

    And now this text, which came from yet another girl who I met one time and spent one hour with in the club a few nights ago:


    Hey its XXX how r u? I have a big emergency work was real bad and I cant pay my hotel can u help me please


    I really have to start working on whatever vibe I'm giving off.
    Maybe you should take a break from otc, it's obviously not working in your favor and honestly what the heel kind of girls are you meeting??? They live in hotels and can't pay?? These girls have druggie or loser written all over them. You need to choose more wisely or hire an actual escort as Charlie recommended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    Your putting to much thought into this and really giving her too much credit! She's probably a druggie who wanted money to do some drugs instead of having to actually work. She's obviously an idiot if you only gave her(I foirgot what you said) something like 130in 90 minutes and she thought you were going to be a great target to just call up and get money out of. I'm glad there are so many stupid dancers out there today....just means more money for someone who actually knows how to do this job...
    Can't disagree with pretty much any of that michelle.

    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    Maybe you should take a break from otc, it's obviously not working in your favor and honestly what the heel kind of girls are you meeting??? They live in hotels and can't pay?? These girls have druggie or loser written all over them. You need to choose more wisely or hire an actual escort as Charlie recommended.
    On the whole the OTC thing is currently working out ok for me, both from another local club as well as in road clubs, but historically it has been better. I know that once I find that ideal local OTC girl then all cylinders will be firing nicely, with me getting the right combination of ITC/OTC fun and her earning some decent cash from the whole arrangement. But for some reason the girls in this particular club, one of the nicest in town if you can believe it, have been a train wreck. And these are some very attractive girls who initially show no signs of having these types of issues, as opposed to the more strung out and beat up varieties working in many of the other clubs in this city. Honestly I am at a loss to explain it, but there it is.

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    ^ You would be surprised at the hot normal looking girls who are just a mess and druggies. I'm naïve when it comes to drugs( don't do them) and I've found several waitresses at the club I'm at are coke heads. You wouldn't know by looking and they function fine. A few girls sell it I found out and would have never guessed it.

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    I've seen this scenario a thousand times. It's always the same. She really does want to meet for dinner so she can invite you to an art show. The art show will be a series of paintings that depict 19th century barnyards. Slowly, she will gain your trust. After a few more casual dates, she will invite you to her apartment which will be a beautiful, top floor loft, overlooking the entire city. You will be impressed and think to yourself, "How did I get so lucky! I don't want to blow this... I think I'll only go to 2nd base, so she will respect me and ask me out again." But, she is a master seductress. She will ply you with expensive wine and romantic music until you lose all self control. You will get naked. Then, you will black out, while staring into her face which will no longer be sweet and alluring. It will be menacing and evil. When you wake up, you'll be in a bathtub full of ice. You'll notice a large incision where your kidney used to be. There will be a note. It will tell you not to call 911 because she has not only stolen your kidney. She has also shoved balloons of heroin down your throat. If you go to the hospital, you'll be arrested for being a drug mule. She will give you the number of an psychotic, criminal veterinarian who lost his license for euthanizing healthy puppies when they just needed their teeth cleaner. You will call him. He will give you antibiotics and treat you. He will also inform you that you must meet up with Ling Gonzales to pass of the drugs or the Mob will kill you after they torture you with a cattle prod. You will schedule a time to meet Ling. Ling will ask you to meet him in an abandoned trailer, in the middle of nowhere. When you get to the trailer you will realize that the girl from the club IS Ling Gonzales. She will explain that the heat was on to her and she needed a place to hide her drugs. She will also mention that she needed $ for a sex change operation and that's why she stole your kidney. You will realize that she isn't a girl! She's just super good at tucking her package. You will be very happy that she/he only took your kidney and did not do you in the booty hole.

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    I think I need to go to bed. I think I have sleep deprivation.

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    Now if she was really good she would get him to go out on another date..................

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    I was kind of surprised to open this thread and see that you started it Rick. You've been at this a while and seem to know what you're doing. That said, I think your move has knocked you out of your game momentarily. Between this and the stripper that left her dance bag in your car, I think you need to try finding more experience gals with their head on their shoulders. I'm not an OTC girl, but I noticed the ones that won't get you in trouble have been doing this a bit longer. Plus, just watching them ITC can give major clues to how they are OTC. I've seen girls act a fool ITC and then their OTC customers want to whine about the drama in their OTC lives. As much a we screen customers, you need to screen your girls! You, of all people, know that you can't make a decision based off of 1 ITC visit.

    Maybe switch clubs every once in a while to see what the pickings are at other clubs. Try one a step down. You may find a girl that is a fantastic match for you but couldn't get into the better club because she had a pooch or something. I'm glad you're starting to get your head back into it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora14 View Post
    I was kind of surprised to open this thread and see that you started it Rick. You've been at this a while and seem to know what you're doing. That said, I think your move has knocked you out of your game momentarily. Between this and the stripper that left her dance bag in your car, I think you need to try finding more experience gals with their head on their shoulders. I'm not an OTC girl, but I noticed the ones that won't get you in trouble have been doing this a bit longer. Plus, just watching them ITC can give major clues to how they are OTC. I've seen girls act a fool ITC and then their OTC customers want to whine about the drama in their OTC lives. As much a we screen customers, you need to screen your girls! You, of all people, know that you can't make a decision based off of 1 ITC visit.

    Maybe switch clubs every once in a while to see what the pickings are at other clubs. Try one a step down. You may find a girl that is a fantastic match for you but couldn't get into the better club because she had a pooch or something. I'm glad you're starting to get your head back into it though.
    What can I say? I post the bad with the good and I take my lumps when I deserve them.

    Idk though, I've done plenty of first meeting, same night OTC outings with girls from several clubs in a lot of different areas and have never experienced the sheer concentration of problems that I have since moving to this small southern city. Now I've had some good experiences as well here, but mixed in are silly con attempts and a couple of bad nights. The problem, from what I can tell, is the rampant heroin use by the girls working in the area clubs. It is making some of them act desperate and stupid. None of the girls who have tried to con me earned anything significant from their efforts, far less than playing it straight would have earned them. But as michelle alluded to, they wanted the fix so badly and so immediately that they were willing to try any ol' con. In all candor, I've never seen anything quite like this before, which is now forcing me to adjust my thinking a bit in dealing with the girls in this area.

    But the worst one was the girl who took me for the night long run around. She had me completely fooled. Not only was she girl next door beautiful and very put together, but she had a great story line and I never saw signs of trouble, even after several ITC visits and one successful OTC adventure. It wasn't until I the pickup at the crappy motel and our first stop downtown that I started to piece together what was happening. I'll admit to being a bit of a numskull for not seeing it sooner, but between how she front-faced and my admitted lack of experience with heroin addicts, it took longer to sink in than it should have. I took my lumps in the thread I posted about the experience, and they were well deserved, but there it is.

    I guess no matter how long or how many times one does this, there is always another lesson to be learned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Addison View Post
    Maybe she wants to... *cue suspenseful music* ...hang out!

    ♫ dun, dun, duunnnn...!!♪ :o
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    I bet you have seen alot of them come and go. It's hard for an outsider to grasp the variety of girls that this profession attracts. All I can say is that they all have one thing in common .... they are there to make money! Do you agree? Your thoughts please from those who are experienced.

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    Always another lesson to be learned.

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    How much does a guy have to have to be considered having "Money"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by discountstripper View Post
    I bet you have seen alot of them come and go. It's hard for an outsider to grasp the variety of girls that this profession attracts. All I can say is that they all have one thing in common .... they are there to make money! Do you agree? Your thoughts please from those who are experienced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasmine.Doll View Post
    I've seen this scenario a thousand times. It's always the same. She really does want to meet for dinner so she can invite you to an art show. The art show will be a series of paintings that depict 19th century barnyards. Slowly, she will gain your trust. After a few more casual dates, she will invite you to her apartment which will be a beautiful, top floor loft, overlooking the entire city. You will be impressed and think to yourself, "How did I get so lucky! I don't want to blow this... I think I'll only go to 2nd base, so she will respect me and ask me out again." But, she is a master seductress. She will ply you with expensive wine and romantic music until you lose all self control. You will get naked. Then, you will black out, while staring into her face which will no longer be sweet and alluring. It will be menacing and evil. When you wake up, you'll be in a bathtub full of ice. You'll notice a large incision where your kidney used to be. There will be a note. It will tell you not to call 911 because she has not only stolen your kidney. She has also shoved balloons of heroin down your throat. If you go to the hospital, you'll be arrested for being a drug mule. She will give you the number of an psychotic, criminal veterinarian who lost his license for euthanizing healthy puppies when they just needed their teeth cleaner. You will call him. He will give you antibiotics and treat you. He will also inform you that you must meet up with Ling Gonzales to pass of the drugs or the Mob will kill you after they torture you with a cattle prod. You will schedule a time to meet Ling. Ling will ask you to meet him in an abandoned trailer, in the middle of nowhere. When you get to the trailer you will realize that the girl from the club IS Ling Gonzales. She will explain that the heat was on to her and she needed a place to hide her drugs. She will also mention that she needed $ for a sex change operation and that's why she stole your kidney. You will realize that she isn't a girl! She's just super good at tucking her package. You will be very happy that she/he only took your kidney and did not do you in the booty hole.


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    Unfortunately, the law makes men afraid of commitment. You can't have it both ways. Too many men have been burned and won't risk falling into a financial trap. That's how I feel anyway and I think many others as well. I don't speak for all guys.

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