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    Our ATM machine broke about three months ago. Now, men have to run their card for dance dollars, which requires a club fee that the ATM wouldn't. If they want to take out 200 dollars, they have to pay 250 and the extra fifty is the club fee. I cannot tell you how many times a customer has changed his mind about multiple VIP's or champagne room over this. They intend to take out the price required for a private hour but when they hear the club percentage, they refuse to run their card. Management says the ATM will not be repaired and the "new system" is there to stay. We are a small club in a small town; most customers are farmers, military, or oilfield, and they don't like feeling jipped. When men agree they want a champagne but refuse to be charged so much extra for "club fees," management suggests the customer drive to a gas station down the interstate and use their ATM...talk about a mood killer. I've lost potential regulars, multiple champagne rooms, and many of the customers who go ahead and pay the fee say they'll never come back. The visible broken ATM, combined with the new mandatory ten dollar vip bracelet charge has men feeling like they're being ripped off. The vip bracelet, ok, whatever. The ATM sitting right next to where cards are run, and 15 to 20% club fee is insane to me. Is this kind of thing normal in other clubs? Is there a way to persuade customers into paying the club fee? When guys get annoyed with it, it's hard for me to encourage my sale when it makes me feel like we're all a bunch of crooks. I like to form a fun rapport with my customers and my hustle is all "non hustle and genuine interest." That image goes out the window if I suddenly start pressuring him to do something that makes him feel like he's being extorted.
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    Time for a new club.

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    Default Re: They Refuse to Fix the ATM

    Is there still a fee if the customer uses cash? Is there an entrance fee? What fees besides the cc fee does your club make money from? Do you tip out? Just curious...if they are making money from tip out, VIP fee, etc. why are they being so greedy? I worked at a club that used funny money before. It went downhill when they started doing that.

    If you really want to stay maybe you could ask your customers to complain to management. If enough people complain and say they're never coming back they will change it normally. I run a business and I change things when people complain. The club I'm at now tried to get rid of table dances. When enough people complained and some dancers quit they changed it. Only took about 2 months for them to "see the light". Otherwise, I would start looking for a new club.
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    We have a 20 dollar cover, ten dollar entrance fee for VIP, the club gets 150 for an hour in champagne, tip out os between 40 and 60, and it's BYOB and they can't bring in coolers so unless they want hot beer, they pay 12 dollars for ice. I'm a single mom to two small children and the closest other club is about three hours away. I don't like leaving my kids so I really would like to stay local. I will suggest complaining to corporate and encouraging customers to do the same.
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    One good thing, there are no dancer fees unless you miss stage and that goes to the DJ. There are no leave early fees, drama fees, fighting fees, as long as tip out is paid we can work any day for as little or long as we want. Before new management, we had to pay fees for hoards of "offenses."
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    Default Re: They Refuse to Fix the ATM

    i used to work in a club that did that, Every friday and saturday night it was "Broken"
    or run out of money, something like that... idk
    But yah it is pretty shitty that they do that

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    Werd. The crooks. I just thought of getting one of those cc swiper things that you attach to your phone and the money goes straight to your bank account. Why didn't I think of that before?!?! I'll be rich I tell you!
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    That's really annoying. Is that driving distance gas station really the closest ATM though? Poke around near the club and look into that, because if there's one around the corner, you can just direct customers there. Still not ideal, but it doesn't sound like your club is about to change back to the old system, so you're somewhat stuck working around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsyboots View Post
    Werd. The crooks. I just thought of getting one of those cc swiper things that you attach to your phone and the money goes straight to your bank account. Why didn't I think of that before?!?! I'll be rich I tell you!
    I have yet to find one that does not have a "not to be used for adult transaction" clause Square just updated their terms to reflect it because a lot of escorts were using them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissSassyPickles View Post
    I have yet to find one that does not have a "not to be used for adult transaction" clause Square just updated their terms to reflect it because a lot of escorts were using them.

    I didn't even think of that. Thank you! Blasted clauses.
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    Could you pitch the room price to them with the fee already included? Even if they realize they are being charged a high fee by the club when they go to pay, maybe they won't feel so sour about it if they were already intending to spend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierra. View Post
    Could you pitch the room price to them with the fee already included? Even if they realize they are being charged a high fee by the club when they go to pay, maybe they won't feel so sour about it if they were already intending to spend it.
    This is a good idea. When selling VIP/CR, it's always simpler to quote one price rather than all of the different VIP charges (room fee, your cut, drinks, whatever else), so you may as well incorporate it this in the total price since, well, it basically is. Then you can offer a cash discount if the customer happens to have cash on them. Or not, whatever you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    This is a good idea. When selling VIP/CR, it's always simpler to quote one price rather than all of the different VIP charges (room fee, your cut, drinks, whatever else), so you may as well incorporate it this in the total price since, well, it basically is. Then you can offer a cash discount if the customer happens to have cash on them. Or not, whatever you want.
    This sounds great in theory as long as you don't have a stupid host ruin it. How does the system work at your club? I know some clubs I've worked at had rules like "dancers can't quote prices" or some other stupid rule. Does the host run the card for the transaction? better make sure you guys are on the same page

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    Sounds like a greedy club that doesn't want to invest money back into the business. Generally the sign of a club that is barely surviving financially or just doesn't give a shit about their dancers. All red flags IMHO.

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    ^^^Yeah, there was a particularly funky case in Manhattan of a club that went weeks without paying the dancers for the Funny Money they turned in. They went out of business without reimbursing them a dime.
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    Ugh, this sort of nonsense started at my club as well... bigwigs started feeling the summer hitting, and squeezed harder on the dancers. We started doing the $20 VIP bracelet thing and it does NOT go over well, since the guys view it the same way yours do; getting jipped by the club.

    I think quoting them the set price with the $50 included is the best way to go. They don't have to know about the extra fee. I've decided to approach our customers with a set 2-songs-upstairs price of $50, which knocks off $10 on the bracelet, and is less "So here's my cut, and here's the club's cut"... worth it, since normally 2 songs downstairs would net me $20 instead of $30, and the customer doesn't feel quite as nickel-and-dimed.

    Your club sounds like mostly regulars; I would imagine they will either A) say "fuck this noise" and never return, or B) wise up and get extra cash before coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    I think quoting them the set price with the $50 included is the best way to go. They don't have to know about the extra fee. I've decided to approach our customers with a set 2-songs-upstairs price of $50, which knocks off $10 on the bracelet, and is less "So here's my cut, and here's the club's cut"... worth it, since normally 2 songs downstairs would net me $20 instead of $30, and the customer doesn't feel quite as nickel-and-dimed.
    It sucks to eat some of the cost of it, but this really sounds like the best approach since you still come out ahead. And if they decide to go for more dances once up there, you come out even more ahead!

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    ^^ Exactly. Unfortunately for Gypsy, she'd have to take an even bigger cut to talk them out of the club fee... I'm assuming she can't just not mention it, the host running the card would probably mention it >_< Sometimes I wish the VIP host would stfu...
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