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    So I have Been working at the skybox in Chicago for about a month and two weeks now and I'm like not making any money. The most I've came out with is 300 on a Saturday night. Last night was one of the worst nights ever. I came home with $40. I made about 100 sumn but I only came home with 40. And I only did 4 dances in 12 hours. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I do the approach they want us to do and I be a little sexy even tho I'm naturally sexy. Idk if minor being sexy enough or what. I know I'm not ugly the patrons constantly remind me that I'm the most beautiful woman they've ever seen. But they won't spend their money on me. They always tell me they'll dance with me later or they just got here its so fucking annoying! I really don't get it. Other girls are coming out with 700 every night and I'm coming out with 150 on average. Please help me I feel like giving up!! And I don't want to. I love to entertain and I like making guys feel good when they dance with me. That's one thing that's a plus tho. The guys I do get to dance with definitely come back for me. I just reall don't know what's wrong with me.

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    Default Re: Help I'm getting discouraged

    I doubt it's anything wrong with you, hun.

    Do you make a lap back to them after they shoo you away the first time? If they say "maybe later", I tend to give them 7 or 8 songs and then come back saying cutely "Oooh, is it later yet?!" Sometimes it really is "maybe later"; do you like to be approached by someone to dance at a nightclub the minute you sit down with your drink? No, you want to sit and take it in for a minute.

    Don't focus on the other girls. I know this happens in my club, and it is discouraging, but at my club the real reason comes out to that they are making a lot of that out of regulars (who may be the guys saying "maybe later"), while I have no regulars. That may be what happens to you.

    Try varying up your intro lines to cutesy things maybe? There is a whole thread of this somewhere if you search "opening lines". If you can make them laugh right away, there's about a 90% chance they'll get a dance from you.
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    I freaken' relate to you! This job feels like a joke if I make nothing to close to nothing.... and I know it's not my looks. There's some unattractive dancers, and they are making money because they been there for a long time. I'm like, "you look like 40, and you make a lot of money". It's because they do a ton of extras in the backrooms, and I don't do that... I know personality matters and such, but looks should matter a lot more than what they do.If this job was paid by looks, I would be making at least a 100 a night, and at least 200 on weekends.

    I am going to look for a good vanilla job. I gotten too discourage from this crap. It hurts to leave the money there on the table, but money doesn't matter as long as you have enough, it only matters when you have nothing, and I can make money come flowing in if I want too if I turn to porn.

    I don't age, so I don't care if I use the porn route now or at 23-30. I can't waste my time... time is so precious.

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    Do you talk to them for a long time before asking for a dance? Because you have to let them know within 5 minutes that your company isnt free. Why would they buy anything from you when they held a free conversation for like, 20 minutes?

    Do you ask for dances in confidence? Like, do you ask for dances doubting they will get a dance? A key to being in sales is to assume the sale. Check this out: http://www.insideselfstorage.com/art...-the-sale.aspx

    Are you trying too hard? You kinda have to appear natural, effortless. Trying too hard is not sexy.

    Are you too nice? You don't have to be a bitch but don't be a pushover. Guys arent attracted to "too nice" in the strip club.

    Also, don't be too hard on yourself. Some girls take awhile adjust. With practice and experience, you will get better.

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    Default Re: Help I'm getting discouraged

    Also, maybe you feeling discouraged brings you down. Coming to work every night feeling discouraged effects your income. Maybe try a new club? Maybe you're more comfortable somewhere else?

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    Default Re: Help I'm getting discouraged

    1. It's not about your looks.
    2. Stop focusing on what the other girls are doing.

    Now, what are YOU doing in your hustle? It's hard to give advice without knowing your approach, and "I do the approach they want us to do and I be a little sexy even tho I'm naturally sexy." isn't exactly informative. How do you open the conversation? Do you sit with customers for a long time? What sort of conversation topics do you broach? How do you try and close the sale?

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    You need to converse with them keeping it sexy and also developing rapport.. You do not want to talk to these guys the way you would casually in a bar for instance. This should really only take 5-10 min, more if its noticeably slow, minutes if its packed. How do you ask for dances? There's been several threads about ways to ask that are cute and sexy. Who are you approaching? To a new, younger (?) dancer it might seem weird to go up to older or "creepy" guys.. But if you're only approaching guys that you would normally talk to, chances are they do not have a lot of money to spend. Obviously if someone makes you uncomfortable walk away, but I see a lot of new girls only talking to guys around their age or who they'd hang in public with.

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    Try taking very short mini-breaks when you feel discouraged. Your mindset can make or break your day/eve and guys can sense when your on edge, desperate, or any other negative feeling. Try to clear your mind as much as possible.

    Try not to compare yourself to other girls. Just document your earnings and compare to yourself only. Learn from those who are doing well earning but don't compare yourself.

    besides, take their earnings numbers with a grain of salt as some ladies like to inflate their numbers so you never know how much someone's really earning unless you see their bank roll.

    As you get more practice your skill gets better

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    I remember when I first started I definitely felt a lot of anxiety about the approach and first contact with guys I saw it more as bar small talk instead of focussing on the goal of SELLING. I looked on here for cutesy opening lines and when I had something to say other than 'Hi I'm _____ how are you doing tonight' I think I came across as less stiff and forced and consequently made more money. Plus your current approach isn't working for you so what do you have to lose if you try something new? With the cute lines I felt more in character and also like I was more fun which helped me feel more confident.
    It's hard but if you are focussing on the other girls your money will suffer. I feel like nothing positive can come of comparison w other girls. You are you, so it's best to just do YOU.

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    Find your strength, and play to it. You say that you love to entertain them? Well, then give them a little taste of your undivided attention, and then tell them to come VIP for more (with a little more tact!). Read everything you can on sales:
    - Always Be Closing
    - Assuming the Sale - which is basically being uber confident, with some careful language thrown in

    Definitely go back to the guys that say "maybe later" - don't assume they are brushing you off!! If you are getting a lot of "I just got here" - try to notice when they get in to the club. When they get a drink, go say hi, try to sell. If they say that they just got there, make it clear that that is great! You want to get them warmed up! Still no - well then, tell them that you will be back after they have had a drink and watched the show....then go back!

    It sucks when you feel discouraged, I know - it just seeps into everything! Take a day, spend it doing whatever makes you feel GREAT and sexy, and spend it watching/listening to stuff that gets you in the mood....and reading everything in Hustle Hut. Even the ones that you have read before. Watch law of attraction videos on youtube, and spend time visualizing your biggest successes and easiest sales. I find that that usually re-sets my mojo!
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    Don't get discouraged! Your beauty is just one of the tools in your bag of tricks. It's not what every guy wants to see.

    One of the biggest mistakes made by new girls is using the same approach for every customer. Each guy is an individual and needs to be approached as such.

    You can actually 'read' personalities before you approach tables (based on dress, body language, etc) and use a customized approach to most likely buyers.

    Another tip if you will allow me to coach you for a moment is your choice of words. In your post you used 'only', 'enough', 'worst' and 'won't'.

    Even when things are bad we have to feed our minds 'MORE' 'BETTER' 'WONDERFUL' 'GREAT'! Instead of 'won't', try YET.

    It's OK to get discouraged, we all do. The key is not staying in it long and moving toward what we DO WANT. Our subconscious mind is always listening to what we say to ourselves, so choose the GOOD STUFF!

    Hope this helps.
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    Keep building on your repeat custamers. Over time this is were the big money is

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