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    I...am done with SM.

    I love it, but I'm just not making the money I want to be, and I'm not motivated enough to get on there every day. I think it's like when I was dancing full time - every couple of years I would switch clubs, because I would just get so bored of where I was, and start to settle in and stop putting in any effort.

    I've totally found myself just avoiding work, working the bare minimum....and since getting back to the club last week - I've barely been able to drag my ass on cam at all!!!

    MFC, here we come. I was originally going to slowly move from one to the other, but nah. I'm going to work this week because I need to be paid on Friday, and then I think I'm basically going to dump it entirely and go for MFC 100%.

    Should be interesting....

    Anyone else done a complete switch? What was hard? Easy? Did you find that many customers followed you, or that they stuck with the site and just went to skype shows?

    Any MFC advice for "I wish I had done x as soon as I started, rather than waiting to get there?"
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    dont throw sm under the bus completely or you will find yourself in my shoes on MFC.

    just stream Sm when you can to not loose what you do have

    When I left MFC,my custis stayed w MFC. I never did skype shows.

    I wish I didnt throw MFC under the bus but it what it is and now I am repairing the damage. SLOWLY

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    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel View Post
    dont throw sm under the bus completely or you will find yourself in my shoes on MFC.

    just stream Sm when you can to not loose what you do have

    When I left MFC,my custis stayed w MFC. I never did skype shows.

    I wish I didnt throw MFC under the bus but it what it is and now I am repairing the damage. SLOWLY
    I'm not really sure that I CAN throw SM any more under the bus than I already have!! Seriously, I basically didn't work from Feb-April, and have barely been working this month either...because I am just so unmotivated. But when I do log on, my placement is basically the same, I make basically the same money...so even if I took another 3 months "off"....I don't think it would do me any harm! I can totally see it being damaging the other way around though.

    Bear in mind as well that I don't have a lot of time - what with the pets, the workout plan, working at the club 4 nights a week and attempting to have time to write (because that is what I want to be doing eventually)...oh, and a social life. And dating... I'm at a point where I am looking for "most bang for my buck" in terms of time, y'know? I only have about 4 hours a day to cam (when I have a schedule that I am happy with and which doesn't leave me feeling stressed and rushed), and I feel like that would be put to better use all on one site....or maybe 3hrs on one and 1 on the other....
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    I have been with MFC for a year and have built up regulars over the months, even though I wanted to try SM because I heard they have decent traffic. First 2-3 weeks SM was steadily getting better for me until about a month in it just went down hill and I am SO glad I stayed with MFC because I always have traffic on there and make something. I only use SM now when I am bored and already did a shift on MFC. It is always dead on SM for me, so I would just use it once in awhile for something to do.

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    @ManyRoses: I think you'll do well on MFC. I've peeked in your SM chat before, and you're friendly, you interact with guys in the room and seem to enjoy it, and you're beautiful. A lot of the spenders on MFC like models who are up for a little conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miamia4me View Post
    I have been with MFC for a year and have built up regulars over the months, even though I wanted to try SM because I heard they have decent traffic. First 2-3 weeks SM was steadily getting better for me until about a month in it just went down hill and I am SO glad I stayed with MFC because I always have traffic on there and make something. I only use SM now when I am bored and already did a shift on MFC. It is always dead on SM for me, so I would just use it once in awhile for something to do.
    That's how I feel. Often times I'll make my goal on MFC, but on SM I have a hard time even making the daily pay minimum. And when I do make money on Streamate, it's pretty much my #1 MFC regular doing almost all of the spending!
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    Wow, good luck bb!!! Is SM really that bad for you?

    All I can say is... every. single. model. that I have seen swear off SM for MFC in the last couple months has gone running right back to SM.

    I wouldn't completely write SM off. Try out MFC, you can always go back to SM if you aren't doing as well as you would like on MFC. The good thing is that you don't have to worry about cam score and all that on SM as much as MFC. Pretty much you can go back to SM and be fine, where as MFC it's like you lose a lot of regulars if you are away.

    I started on MFC before SM and it's very, very different. Watching others do it vs. actually doing it is two different things. Is this going to be your very first time on MFC? If so, just do whatever you can to raise your score in the beginning!

    Also you said you don't have much time... MFC in my experience was like a super time drain! Like you have to always be like super personal and keeping up with the guys who frequent your room or they get all butt hurt. It's much more social, and a lot less "log on, work, log off" type thing. I really think MFC requires A LOT of time in order to "make it" but that was just how it worked for me...?
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    Good luck. You can make as switch well. I did privatecamz for years and then jumped over to Streamate cold turkey It isn't really that difficult if you are willing to work your ass off and build regulars. SM has been having major issues the last few months and the traffic is weird as fuck the last couple of months. They will bounce back but it is hard to stick it out sometimes.

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    I guess I am the minority because everytime I try to make SM work, I always go running back to MFC and the guys always make me feel so welcome and wanted. I'm like YAY mfc people are back in my room again, being so nice and welcoming.

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    I, too, have signed up for MFC. I'm just too much of chicken shit to actually log on and work. So nervewracking starting on a new site. Why would I rather dance?

    I find that when I put the hours into SM that I do pretty well, but I'm so burnt out on it. I work so hard for the little that I get in return. Raising my rates is helping somewhat but the site drains me mentally and physically and it's starting to bear on my relationship.

    ManyRoses, just want to let you know that MFC only pays twice a month: The 16th and the 31st-1st of the next month.

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    SM is stressful for me and I find I enjoy other sites more. I can't afford to do away with it completely because it's at least some steady money, but I'm attempting to use it to "finance" my other money making projects, which makes me feel less dependent on SM.

    I soooo have wanted to tame the MFC beast, but every time I try it bites me in the ass, lol. Someday I shall try yet again


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    Wow, good luck bb!!! Is SM really that bad for you?

    All I can say is... every. single. model. that I have seen swear off SM for MFC in the last couple months has gone running right back to SM.

    I wouldn't completely write SM off. Try out MFC, you can always go back to SM if you aren't doing as well as you would like on MFC. The good thing is that you don't have to worry about cam score and all that on SM as much as MFC. Pretty much you can go back to SM and be fine, where as MFC it's like you lose a lot of regulars if you are away.

    I started on MFC before SM and it's very, very different. Watching others do it vs. actually doing it is two different things. Is this going to be your very first time on MFC? If so, just do whatever you can to raise your score in the beginning!

    Also you said you don't have much time... MFC in my experience was like a super time drain! Like you have to always be like super personal and keeping up with the guys who frequent your room or they get all butt hurt. It's much more social, and a lot less "log on, work, log off" type thing. I really think MFC requires A LOT of time in order to "make it" but that was just how it worked for me...?

    It's actually not that SM is "bad" money-wise...when I log on, I still make around $50 per hour. It's just that I am SO. BORED. of just sitting around, having the same damn conversation five times an hour, doing 3-5 minute privates, doing the same sodding privates, having no incentive to get creative. And because it bores the bejeesus out of me, I never want to go on....so I don't. I've tried just sitting around watching netflix to make up the hours...but then I make less money and feel like I'm not doing my best.

    It's actually not my very first time on MFC, I started out trying it and SM at the same time for a couple weeks, then went to SM because MFC was a bit overwhelming when I was just starting out. Now I feel like I "get it" far more...but my camscore is back to 1000, so I am basically starting from scratch. Luckily, a few of my biggest SM regulars are MFC customers, and are BEGGING me to make the move already - I'm going to start them off with a discounted "membership" to "Team Naked Nerd" so that I look more popular right off the bat, and I know that these are the ones that will be on the member forums talking me up (seeing as they do it on SM, tip to get things going, encourage bidding wars. etc).

    I think the time thing is going to be the weirdest part....but then again, I already constantly (and i mean CONSTANTLY) interact with my SM fans on twitter/fb/etc - if I disappear for a day, they are asking where I am. If I'm doing that anyway....it seems like it would translate to more money on MFC, you know? I'm figuring I'll be motivated enough to go back to 20hrs a week - 5hrs a day, 4 days a week, plus the odd "special day" show (holidays, birthday, etc) and skype shows 2 other days....and that should be enough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl_Sugar View Post
    I, too, have signed up for MFC. I'm just too much of chicken shit to actually log on and work. So nervewracking starting on a new site. Why would I rather dance?

    I find that when I put the hours into SM that I do pretty well, but I'm so burnt out on it. I work so hard for the little that I get in return. Raising my rates is helping somewhat but the site drains me mentally and physically and it's starting to bear on my relationship.

    ManyRoses, just want to let you know that MFC only pays twice a month: The 16th and the 31st-1st of the next month.
    Thanks for the heads up on money! I need to figure out how that will change things with my payments - but now I'm back at the club, I have a lot more flexibliity with paydates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    It's actually not that SM is "bad" money-wise...when I log on, I still make around $50 per hour. It's just that I am SO. BORED. of just sitting around, having the same damn conversation five times an hour, doing 3-5 minute privates, doing the same sodding privates, having no incentive to get creative. And because it bores the bejeesus out of me, I never want to go on....so I don't.
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    I know these feels all too well. I've thought about going back to MFC while I continue SM. I know a whole lot more now than when I started. MFC has never been a boring place imo I just couldn't keep up with it because it can take so long to build regulars.



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    ^^^ LOL...thats awesome! (The gif, not the feels)

    I was originally planning to do both for a while, but now that I am back at the club, I don't need the same financial cushion, so I'm just thinking...meh. It's not like I'm going to cancel my SM account or anything, it'll still be there...I just don't want to use it for a while.
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    Right now is a PERFECT example of how I'm feeling. On for an hour and a half, made about $70...and I am SO BORED I WANT TO CLAW MY EYES OUT FOR SOMETHING TO DO!!!

    Sorry for all the yelling - but seriously. I have started actively doing stuff that doesn't take too much attention (mostly organizing stuff) just so that I don't start beating my head on the desk. Want interaction beyond "gold show? Tits? Do you do xyzblah in pvt?". Want to be able to have actual conversations.

    I've actually logged out. I need to take ten minutes to try and get my head back together before draaaagging my ass back on there.

    It's weird, I automatically try and draw parallels between dancing and camming, and I used to think that SM was more like VIP rooms and longer customers, and MFC was more like batchelor parties...so I would prefer SM. I'm beginning to think that it is actually the other way around. SM is all shorter single pvts, most of them straight to the damn point, wham bam, thank you maam. MFC seems like it is more about building a rapport, having a personality, using your imagination, engaging your brain...

    If I didn't have to make my rent in the next day, I would just switch MEOW, but I need the paydate of the 31st, so I need to work today and tomorrow online and at the club to make rent and the last couple bills. Ughs.
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    I don't have any experience with SM yet (starting out very soon and am quite optimistic about it), but I did MFC for a while and while you ARE right when you say personality is a big factor in the MFC experience, I think it can also be a negative thing. I think specifically because MFC is known to be a come-hang-around-with-cute-awesome-models-for-free website, you get tons and tons of guys who want to do exactly that: come and hang around with you, talk about actually engaging subject matters (well, not always, but many times), laughing and having a great time, maybe tipping every few minutes towards your goal, maybe not. Basically, it can be dead (money-wise) for hours just because everyone is waiting for another person to tip for the action. For me, personally, it mostly didn't work out, unless suddenly there'd come someone who'd really like me and tip a decent amount, all at once. But it was EXTREMELY inconsistent and it got on my nerves that mostly guys just wanted to be best buddies with me and tell me I'm hot, and that's why I got to a conclusion that I'd actually like the SM experience of wham bam thank you mam, even if I get a row of short privates one after another. I WANT the action, I want the making money, don't care about being bored. I really don't.

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    ^^^ I think that it will REALLY help me that I spent years developing the slow hustle in strip clubs - the best ways to keep closing, to always be moving from "we are such amazing friends!" to "pay me, FRIEND!".

    I'm still finding it hard to convert to a SM hustle that doesn't feel like "wanna dance". I just don't feel like my sales is coming into play - its too....I don't even know how to describe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    ^^^ I think that it will REALLY help me that I spent years developing the slow hustle in strip clubs - the best ways to keep closing, to always be moving from "we are such amazing friends!" to "pay me, FRIEND!".

    I'm still finding it hard to convert to a SM hustle that doesn't feel like "wanna dance". I just don't feel like my sales is coming into play - its too....I don't even know how to describe it.
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    ^^ I also perved now and must say you're beautiful! And we have the same bed. -high five-

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    Hahahaha!! Awesome! Glad you like the hair - It's brighter than it looks on cam!

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    haha so I had to pop in, it looks great! sexy sexy and your voice....... sexy ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel View Post
    haha so I had to pop in, it looks great! sexy sexy and your voice....... sexy ass
    Ha, me too! MR, you're very sexy and engaging, I hope you do well on MFC (as you should!). You seem to put a lot of personality in your chat.

    I do this to an extent (I find I can't just sit and look cute, no matter how I try) and I feel it burns me out quickly. How do you keep it rolling? Does your work as a dancer help you in that regard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoodlebugBites View Post
    Ha, me too! MR, you're very sexy and engaging, I hope you do well on MFC (as you should!). You seem to put a lot of personality in your chat.

    I do this to an extent (I find I can't just sit and look cute, no matter how I try) and I feel it burns me out quickly. How do you keep it rolling? Does your work as a dancer help you in that regard?
    The funny thing is, I am so bored today, that I feel like I am putting in ZERO effort right now - I'm on SW while I work!!! LOL

    As for how I keep it going - it's weird, I find that it is kind of snowball effect when the room is busy and guys are chatting - it feels like it just pumps me up to be happy and in a good mood, and keeps going! Whereas if it is quiet....it is so hard to keep the smile on. Sometimes I'll log out for a few minutes and watch something on youtube and jump around for five minutes to pump myself back up....

    Dancing definitely helps - but it is SO much easier in the club, where the entire thing has a party atmosphere, and I can coast off the vibes...being at home in my bedroom makes it a little harder because I have to create the same atmosphere entirely from scratch, you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    It's actually not that SM is "bad" money-wise...when I log on, I still make around $50 per hour. It's just that I am SO. BORED. of just sitting around, having the same damn conversation five times an hour, doing 3-5 minute privates, doing the same sodding privates, having no incentive to get creative. And because it bores the bejeesus out of me, I never want to go on....so I don't. I've tried just sitting around watching netflix to make up the hours...but then I make less money and feel like I'm not doing my best.

    It's actually not my very first time on MFC, I started out trying it and SM at the same time for a couple weeks, then went to SM because MFC was a bit overwhelming when I was just starting out. Now I feel like I "get it" far more...but my camscore is back to 1000, so I am basically starting from scratch. Luckily, a few of my biggest SM regulars are MFC customers, and are BEGGING me to make the move already - I'm going to start them off with a discounted "membership" to "Team Naked Nerd" so that I look more popular right off the bat, and I know that these are the ones that will be on the member forums talking me up (seeing as they do it on SM, tip to get things going, encourage bidding wars. etc).

    I think the time thing is going to be the weirdest part....but then again, I already constantly (and i mean CONSTANTLY) interact with my SM fans on twitter/fb/etc - if I disappear for a day, they are asking where I am. If I'm doing that anyway....it seems like it would translate to more money on MFC, you know? I'm figuring I'll be motivated enough to go back to 20hrs a week - 5hrs a day, 4 days a week, plus the odd "special day" show (holidays, birthday, etc) and skype shows 2 other days....and that should be enough!
    I think you will be perfect for MFC then! Go for it!!! I totally feel you on the boring and sameness of SM. It's like ughhhhhhh at times.

    Let us know how it works out!
    xoxo ~ Sarah




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