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    If this site were a person I'd punch it in the face. It attracts all the timewasters and 1-minute-show guys and they won't even cover chargebacks for prepaid shows. The amount of times I've gotten ready for a show for it to last a minute is absolutely absurd. My only option now is to do prepaid shows, even with the chargeback risk, but I might just drop the site altogether

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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenMary View Post
    If this site were a person I'd punch it in the face. It attracts all the timewasters and 1-minute-show guys and they won't even cover chargebacks for prepaid shows. The amount of times I've gotten ready for a show for it to last a minute is absolutely absurd. My only option now is to do prepaid shows, even with the chargeback risk, but I might just drop the site altogether
    Just do ppm and give the dudes who don’t stick around long enough a bad review. That way you know you’re getting paid no matter what. If they can’t last over a minute, it’s one star from me unless they leave a tip.

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    Hello, @QueenMary! We are sorry that you had to go trough this experience. In order to avoid situations like that one, we recommend doing pay-per-minute calls, because we cover chargebacks for those. @caramelcraze, thank you for your intervening in this thread and sharing your experience. Both of you, have a great day!
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    There was talk awhile back about SkyPrivate instituting a $2 per minute minimum amount that models can charge such as most other indie sites have. Is there still plans for this and if so when will it go into effect?

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    Hello, @SuperPookie! We believe that every model deserves to set her own price for her clients, because she knows better what she can provide in a show. Although it was a long discussion about this matter, this is the reason we did not want to institute this minimum price per minute. Have an awesome day!
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    @Asheley.Miller, I m guessing we can t see when someone rates us, unless we check the stars on our profile after a show, yes? Also, I believe guys are not able to see we gave them a good/bad rating at all. Is that wright?
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    Hello, @Ginnyyy! You can see the ratings on your profile when you have at least 10 ratings from members. Members can't see the rating you gave him, but when he calls you, you can see all of his ratings, just like on your profile. Have an awesome day!
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    for more info go to: http://www.skyprivate.com/how-it-works/



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    Anyone else experiencing high CPU usage from the skyprivate plug in? it keeps surging randomly and it's really messing with my other streams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caramelcraze View Post
    Anyone else experiencing high CPU usage from the skyprivate plug in? it keeps surging randomly and it's really messing with my other streams.
    that is not a normal behaviral. can you contact my colleagues from live chat support (on the website) and maybe have a teamviewer session and check?
    also please make sure that you use the latest plugin version (best is to uninstall and install it again from your account) and be sure that you do not have at one multiple instances of the plugin running (like have running an old version and a new version at the same time)
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    Quote Originally Posted by caramelcraze View Post
    Anyone else experiencing high CPU usage from the skyprivate plug in? it keeps surging randomly and it's really messing with my other streams.
    No. It s just as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drearea View Post
    It's fine if you don't want to resolve problems publicly, but understanding how and why these things happen to other models can help me and others like me feel more confident in your services. Especially when multiple people have expressed that there is a language barrier that prevents your support services from providing helpful guidance. The person you're responding to made it extremely clear that only another model understood their issue, which should be enough information to understand why they would not want to have the conversation privately. It becomes confusing trying to figure out whether the failure to understand was part of the mentioned language barrier, or if it's an attempt to avoid discussioning the issues.

    I am lucky to have a lot of places to make money, but SkyPrivate had been my fave for a long time. I really am uncomfortable with the way the past few conversations have gone between "Ashley" and models. I'll be gifting myself a break from SkyPrivate until I am given a reason to believe that my colleagues are able to get proper support.

    There is no shame in there being a language barrier. Clearly the people on the SkyPrivate team are fluent in multiple languages. That is remarkable and something I admire. But yes there is some issue with how communication from SkyPrivate reads to a native English speaker and there are issues with getting people on the support team to understand casual English. It would be wise to reflect on that and come up with solutions rather than getting defensive about your team's English skills.
    Anastasia is the best tech support there.

    And while I never spoke English to him, the other day a programmer came onto my computer & this was was WHIP fast.

    But yes, the English is terrible there as you saw/see.

    Try to get Anastasia. She's also a very sweet girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenMary View Post
    If this site were a person I'd punch it in the face. It attracts all the timewasters and 1-minute-show guys and they won't even cover chargebacks for prepaid shows. The amount of times I've gotten ready for a show for it to last a minute is absolutely absurd. My only option now is to do prepaid shows, even with the chargeback risk, but I might just drop the site altogether
    Is it b/c they run out of money or they just DC?

    Do you mind sharing your per min. rate?

    Quote Originally Posted by ashley.miller View Post
    Hello, @Ginnyyy! You can see the ratings on your profile when you have at least 10 ratings from members. Members can't see the rating you gave him, but when he calls you, you can see all of his ratings, just like on your profile. Have an awesome day!
    So what's the point in us rating the guys?

    I didn't understand your answer re: how we can see if the guy ever rated us.

    We have to go to our profile to see if anyone rated us & it gives the guys SK handle next to the rating?

    Do we have to be logged into the site to see this?

    It's amazing I NEVER get reviews on SP. On other sites yes, but not this one.

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    Rating the guys can help you or other fellow models to see how he is. For exemple: if a member has a bad rating, you can choose to don't take that call. Regarding your ratings, you can ask our Support Team who rated you. After a call, we ask both participants to rate their conversation, but it's up to them to do it. You don't have to be logged into the site to see the ratings ( a model's ratings)
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    Re: ratings on Skyprivate, I always have to ask for them, they almost never seem to just do it independently. So they get the prompt to rate me, then on top of that (if they seem like they really enjoyed the show) I send them a message myself asking them to rate me. They don't need to write a review (there's no way for anyone to see them except Skyprivate itself), just rate. Re: guys' ratings, I've found it pretty useless. Sometimes I'll get a really high quality customer with a very high rating, and guys with very low ratings always seem to be minute men, but in general most guys (including both great regulars and minute men) seem to have mediocre ratings and it doesn't really tell me anything. It'd be a LOT more useful if we could see reviews that models anonymously* wrote about them, praising them or warning other models about specific things. Or that average show length info in the plug in? It'd be awesome if it showed not just their average show length with us, but average show length overall, across all models. That's way more valuable info than any rating.

    * I say anonymously because if there's any way for a guy to connect a review to a model that completely defeats the point/integrity of the system. MGF is an example of this: no one gives bad reviews to guys unless they were really awful (and usually not even then) so it's useless except to see if they ever pay at all/how recently and frequently they've been spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashley.miller View Post
    Rating the guys can help you or other fellow models to see how he is. For exemple: if a member has a bad rating, you can choose to don't take that call. Regarding your ratings, you can ask our Support Team who rated you. After a call, we ask both participants to rate their conversation, but it's up to them to do it. You don't have to be logged into the site to see the ratings ( a model's ratings)
    Well ask yourself why your customers never rate. There has to be a reason.

    And I agree with Procrasturbator - if I can't see what the model wrote, what's the point?

    Also, the popup thingy is very confusing. I'm pretty sure it tells me how much money he has spent on ME, not the entire site, so the stars make me think they are my stars, not every other model's stars.

    I think your entire rating system is broken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Procrasturbator View Post
    Re: ratings on Skyprivate, I always have to ask for them, they almost never seem to just do it independently. So they get the prompt to rate me, then on top of that (if they seem like they really enjoyed the show) I send them a message myself asking them to rate me. They don't need to write a review (there's no way for anyone to see them except Skyprivate itself), just rate. Re: guys' ratings, I've found it pretty useless. Sometimes I'll get a really high quality customer with a very high rating, and guys with very low ratings always seem to be minute men, but in general most guys (including both great regulars and minute men) seem to have mediocre ratings and it doesn't really tell me anything. It'd be a LOT more useful if we could see reviews that models anonymously* wrote about them, praising them or warning other models about specific things. Or that average show length info in the plug in? It'd be awesome if it showed not just their average show length with us, but average show length overall, across all models. That's way more valuable info than any rating.

    * I say anonymously because if there's any way for a guy to connect a review to a model that completely defeats the point/integrity of the system. MGF is an example of this: no one gives bad reviews to guys unless they were really awful (and usually not even then) so it's useless except to see if they ever pay at all/how recently and frequently they've been spending.

    What is MGF?

    If you read what I wrote above, the entire thing is confusing if one goes by the popup.

    And why don't guys on this site rate?

    When you say you send them a message, do you mean on SK?

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    Once again someone who wants a show says he has $20 in his account & the system is telling me he has no money.

    And it's his ONLY SK account & he even got the e-mail.

    Then I have to waste my time trying to get support on live chat, so a 5 min. call that I could have had turns into almost 30-60 minutes of me wasting my bloody time.

    And of course no one is there at support.

    And why doesn't it tell him on his SK that he has no money? Why does it ONLY tell me???

    FIX YOUR SITE!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ep2002 View Post
    What is MGF?
    My Girl Fund
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    Quote Originally Posted by ep2002 View Post
    What is MGF?

    If you read what I wrote above, the entire thing is confusing if one goes by the popup.

    And why don't guys on this site rate?

    When you say you send them a message, do you mean on SK?

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    Well... in my experience, low quality customers are less likely to bother to rate or review, and Skyprivate customers are very often low quality. But to be fair, I've also noticed that indy clients in general are much less likely to leave reviews or tips, maybe because it's not "in their face" the way it is on big box sites. Aside from Skyprivate, they're not prompted or reminded to do so, so they usually don't. That's one thing that I think Skyprivate is doing right. But in general, I almost always need to ask for ratings/reviews/etc on indy sites, they're rarely a surprise. So after the show, if I have a moment before my next one and I'm sure they'd leave me a glowing rating/review, I'll send them a message on Skype telling them how much it helps me out if they rate/review me, how I really appreciate it, etc. which is good practice for indy camming in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Procrasturbator View Post
    Well... in my experience, low quality customers are less likely to bother to rate or review, and Skyprivate customers are very often low quality. But to be fair, I've also noticed that indy clients in general are much less likely to leave reviews or tips, maybe because it's not "in their face" the way it is on big box sites. Aside from Skyprivate, they're not prompted or reminded to do so, so they usually don't. That's one thing that I think Skyprivate is doing right. But in general, I almost always need to ask for ratings/reviews/etc on indy sites, they're rarely a surprise. So after the show, if I have a moment before my next one and I'm sure they'd leave me a glowing rating/review, I'll send them a message on Skype telling them how much it helps me out if they rate/review me, how I really appreciate it, etc. which is good practice for indy camming in general.
    Do they usually do it?

    I just asked a CMD guy to rate me & he didn't & I've asked another one before & he never did.

    I don't even know how long they get to rate on CMD.

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    Followup from SP Support - so...

    I apologize for getting angry at SP yesterday here on the forum.

    The client told me he had $20, but he didn't, he only had $12 in his account after he gave money to another model first.

    I have my account set to 5 min. minimum, so he was 50 cents short JFC LOL

    I told SP that they should tell us exactly why the call was declined, i.e. that he doesn't have enough to cover your 5 mins, instead of just saying he doesn't have funds.

    Also, I think it's REALLY stupid that only we can see the reason for the declined call, but the client can't.

    Why SP doesn't tell tell them as well, ESPECIALLY, b/c it would prompt them to pay & not confuse them by them thinking we are the ones declining the call instead of SP being responsible is beyond me.

    And we lose calls b/c of this.

    Obviously if the message is crafted in a way that encourages them to top up their account, WE make more money, we don't waste time freaking out b/c the guy wants to see us & he's telling us he has money when he doesn't, the guy calling over & over again trying to get it to work, the client restarting SP & me doing that as well thinking that will fix the problem, etc.

    It's a waste of our time & the client's, & not professional at all.

    So I told them they must do that & I hope you guys will tell them that too so they implement it faster since only one model complaining about this isn't enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ep2002 View Post
    Do they usually do it?

    I just asked a CMD guy to rate me & he didn't & I've asked another one before & he never did.

    I don't even know how long they get to rate on CMD.

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    They often don't, no. They'll also sometimes say that they will, and then, you guessed it, they don't, lol. But enough of them do that I've built up a decent amount of ratings and reviews on both Skyprivate and CMD. I don't think there's a time limit for reviews on CMD, but I'm not sure. I've actually seen several reviews on girls' pages that look like they were never their customers at all? Which is BS in my opinion, no idea why they would approve a review like that and if it happened to me I would ask to have it removed. But every time I've gotten a review on CMD it was relatively soon after the show (also keep in mind that reviews won't show up until support is around to approve them.)

    P.S. If you do domination, an easy way to build up ratings or reviews is to order the sub to write them. Obviously you need to make sure it's something the sub will be into, but when I get Goddess worship types, I'll have them write up a quick review during the session, send it to me first for approval, then submit it on CMD. Then they get their reward (my ass in the cam, a flash of my tits, getting to stroke for 10 seconds, whatever.) It's a little trickier for Skyprivate since they can only rate after a show, but if they've come to see you before and haven't rated, they can go back via the links the plug-in sends them on Skype and rate you for I believe up to a month, so you can have them go back and do that, and if you're extra sure they'll come back then you can also have them hang up, rate your previous call, then call you again (though they can only rate you once every 24 hours.) It's always easier to get them to do it before they cum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ep2002 View Post
    Well ask yourself why your customers never rate. There has to be a reason.

    And I agree with Procrasturbator - if I can't see what the model wrote, what's the point?

    Also, the popup thingy is very confusing. I'm pretty sure it tells me how much money he has spent on ME, not the entire site, so the stars make me think they are my stars, not every other model's stars.

    I think your entire rating system is broken.
    We are taking all steps we can to ask the customer and model to give a rating. Yes, that pop up is reminding you to do that and we also send an e-mail to the member and ask him to do it too. Some don't want to do that, some don't have the time, I am sure there are multiple reasons not to do it, but that doesn't mean that our system is broken. I can tell you that we have models that have a rating after every call, because they insist on reminding that member how important is for her and her ranking on SkyPrivate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ep2002 View Post
    Followup from SP Support - so...

    I apologize for getting angry at SP yesterday here on the forum.

    The client told me he had $20, but he didn't, he only had $12 in his account after he gave money to another model first.

    I have my account set to 5 min. minimum, so he was 50 cents short JFC LOL

    I told SP that they should tell us exactly why the call was declined, i.e. that he doesn't have enough to cover your 5 mins, instead of just saying he doesn't have funds.

    Also, I think it's REALLY stupid that only we can see the reason for the declined call, but the client can't.

    Why SP doesn't tell tell them as well, ESPECIALLY, b/c it would prompt them to pay & not confuse them by them thinking we are the ones declining the call instead of SP being responsible is beyond me.

    And we lose calls b/c of this.

    Obviously if the message is crafted in a way that encourages them to top up their account, WE make more money, we don't waste time freaking out b/c the guy wants to see us & he's telling us he has money when he doesn't, the guy calling over & over again trying to get it to work, the client restarting SP & me doing that as well thinking that will fix the problem, etc.

    It's a waste of our time & the client's, & not professional at all.

    So I told them they must do that & I hope you guys will tell them that too so they implement it faster since only one model complaining about this isn't enough.

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    I understand and you are right. We should tell the member the reason why the call was was declined and that's why we have our Support Department available 24/7 so that they check and see the issue. It's really important to talk to us when this thing happens so we can fix them and stop losing your time.
    When a member doesn't have enough money to make that call, he receives a message saying: You don't have enough funds in your account to make this call. Add more funds here : http://accounts.skyprivate.com/payments/addFunds/, so we do encourage them to top up their account in order to make that call possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashley.miller View Post
    I can tell you that we have models that have a rating after every call, because they insist on reminding that member how important is for her and her ranking on SkyPrivate.
    Do you mind sharing the factors that directly affect ranking on Skyprivate? By "directly" I mean things that aren't just good habits for making more money, but that directly affect where the model appears on the page. For instance, this is from 2015:

    Quote Originally Posted by ashley.miller View Post
    P.S. another factor to rank higher on the profiles page: have your twitter linked, and have a booking schedule, and have a nice text description... beside the details I mentioned above.
    And this post on the Skyprivate website has a number of recommendations, but it's not clear whether these are ways to make more money, or ways to improve your ranking regardless of income. For instance, it recommends filling in your schedule. I could see how this would get someone more clients, but if two models have made the exact same amount of money on Skyprivate in the same amount of time, is the one with the schedule portion of her profile filled out going to be ranked higher than an equally high earner without the schedule filled out? Or in another example, does having a high rating or number of ratings actually improve your ranking, regardless of income? Or are you saying that it would get her more clients and therefore more income, improving her ranking by increasing her income? Hope that makes sense. I'm wondering if there are actually other factors that go into the ranking or if it's like CMD and just lists all online models by amount earned in the last x days.

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