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    Thumbs down Question for you customers....

    Why does everyone seem to think it's ok to spank, pinch, lick, bite, or otherwise mildly assault strippers? Especially when we're on stage! That, for the record, is the BIGGEST, FATTEST no-no! You do not ever in the never-everdom spank a stripper while she is on stage. I mean, there's clubs where the girl will hop in your lap as part of her set, and maybe it's a little different there because she is engaging you, but still...I can't tell you how many times I've been spanked on stage, and it's maddening. It does not turn me on. It fucking hurts, and it makes me very angry, and I've even hit a few people back. I don't even engage in spanking when I'm having sex with my S/O. AND I work in a semi-urban club, and all of the other girls share this opinion. No one likes getting smacked loudly upside the ass mid-set. Do you do this? Why??? Why not save it for private dances/ask first? What do you think when you see someone else do this to a stripper?

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    Well, who do you think goes to strip clubs??

    lol, I dunno what to say, are there rules for this kind of thing can you not tell the bouncer to throw him out?

    A friend of mine made a comment to a stripper, which she took the wrong way, and he was thrown out simply for that. This is in London though.

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    I'm glad bouncers somewhere in the world are doing their jobs. No, no one gets thrown out here, unless they personally insult a bouncer. We have to police the fuckers ourselves for the most part...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToeOfTheCamel View Post
    Why does everyone seem to think it's ok to spank, pinch, lick, bite, or otherwise mildly assault strippers?

    ... Do you do this? Why??? Why not save it for private dances/ask first? What do you think when you see someone else do this to a stripper?
    I don't know where you work but, in any club that I go to, a customer would be tossed for that sort of behavior.
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    Diddo with what yoda said. I visit clubs all over the country, including a lot of dives, and I doubt that it would be tolerated in most of them. Shit, I can't remember the last time I even saw a guy try something like that on a girl on stage.

    Perhaps it is time for a change of venue?

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    Tacky low class stuff like that seems to be the norm out in so cal. Even at "low mileage/non-extras" or "expensive/high end" clubs, as the creepers like to say. Personally I even get upset when I see other guys tipping by balling up their singles and throwing them at the dancers.

    I'd guess its cause; generic media growing up over the last 30 years (mostly assuming its the 18-35 crowd acting this was) that has mostly portrayed dancers as "sub-human" and thus a lot of men think they are entitled to act as though they leave any decency at the door with their cover charge.

    It's a tough enough job already! Sorry for the prevalence of d-bags!

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    hold it right there....back that truck up....

    please don't put all customers in the same boat, i personally have never done any of the things you have said.....so let me fix this for you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by markleymark View Post
    hold it right there....back that truck up....

    please don't put all customers in the same boat, i personally have never done any of the things you have said.....so let me fix this for you....
    Relax with the sensitivities dude. She's just venting.

    In case you missed the sign on the way in, this is a stripper support site. She's simply using the board as an outlet for her frustrations, which is one of its intended purposes. IME blues that get easily worked up over comments like this, at least up here in the pink section, tend not to last long on this board. Just something to consider.

    And btw, I'm sure she understands that not every single customer does this stuff. She is the one on the stage after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markleymark View Post
    hold it right there....back that truck up....
    No, you back the truck up!

    Altering someone's posts is not something I'm going to put up with here. If you want to contribute to the threads I suggest you find a way to do it without "fixing" other member's posts.
    As Rick said, you are a guest on a site that exists primarily for dancer support. Play nice and don't be so quick to jump down people's throats.
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    Are dancers allowed to answer other dancers questions here?

    If not just delete this. Just my two cents. I think if your average customer is say in his 30's think about the kind of pornography he has grown up with and music videos etc he has seen. I really never thought I'd be in this camp but the mainstream pornography generally shows women enjoying acts of degradation, violence, abuse. Not just enduring but enjoying. Music videos that feature female models, again, show that women enjoy being hit. It seems as though it's even taboo to use the word "hit." I'm supposed to say "spank." Whatever.

    Especially the last 5 years or so pornography is simultaneous with things like choking and hair pulling and women getting smacked in the face. Stars like Jenna Haze and Sasha Gray. I think a lot of men have really become mentally ill when it comes to their sex drive.

    To the customers reading this that it doesn't pertain to, obviously yoda and RickD, you know I'm not referring to you. But this is a real issue we deal with quite a bit in the clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missykrissy View Post
    Are dancers allowed to answer other dancers questions here?

    If not just delete this. Just my two cents. I think if your average customer is say in his 30's think about the kind of pornography he has grown up with and music videos etc he has seen. I really never thought I'd be in this camp but the mainstream pornography generally shows women enjoying acts of degradation, violence, abuse. Not just enduring but enjoying. Music videos that feature female models, again, show that women enjoy being hit. It seems as though it's even taboo to use the word "hit." I'm supposed to say "spank." Whatever.

    Especially the last 5 years or so pornography is simultaneous with things like choking and hair pulling and women getting smacked in the face. Stars like Jenna Haze and Sasha Gray. I think a lot of men have really become mentally ill when it comes to their sex drive.

    To the customers reading this that it doesn't pertain to, obviously yoda and RickD, you know I'm not referring to you. But this is a real issue we deal with quite a bit in the clubs.
    Yes krissy, you are most definitely allowed to respond to anything posted in CC! Funny, I was actually having a conversation last night with a fave who works at a moderate one-way contact Mass club in regards to porn and men's behavior-not just in clubs but in the bedroom as well. She's been dancing for 8 or 9 years and has had guys try all sorts of things in VIP including, recently, a guy trying to stick a beer bottle in her ass after she told him that he couldn't stick his finger or his penis in there. Now, I've been around and I've heard, seen and done a lot in strip club VIP rooms but I was beyond shocked at this one! What makes a guy think that this is OK? Well, aside from the fact that he's probably a misogynistic asshole to begin with I'd be willing to bet that he can't get a woman to sleep with him (at least more than once) so he spanks his monkey every night to free pornohub where you can search for things like "baseball bat sex". Porn is not sexy anymore, it's all about abuse and that is what many younger guys are watching.
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    When I was growing up, I used to always tease girls, but it was done to be playful and get a reaction.

    And I still do it to this day.

    So most probably he is smacking your arse to be playful and get a reaction out of you. It's what guys do to girls. It's probably not because he is mysogynistic.

    Say to him that it isn't playful and that he is 'hurting you', and then he'll stop because no guy wants to be the guy who is hurting women. Or tell the bouncer to chuck him out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by !TheOne View Post
    When I was growing up, I used to always tease girls, but it was done to be playful and get a reaction.

    And I still do it to this day.

    So most probably he is smacking your arse to be playful and get a reaction out of you. It's what guys do to girls. It's probably not because he is mysogynistic.

    Say to him that it isn't playful and that he is 'hurting you', and then he'll stop because no guy wants to be the guy who is hurting women. Or tell the bouncer to chuck him out.

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    The key words in your post are "growing up". Many of us do things when we are kids that we learn as we grow older are not acceptable adult behavior. One of the things we are supposed to learn is respect for others. Eight graders tease and bully their classmates. Grown ups don't. Sorry but if a man is old enough to get into a strip club and hasn't yet learned how to treat a woman that tells me he has problems.

    FYI, I talk to a lot of dancers and none of them thinks that "teasing" is funny or cute. This includes smacking, licking, biting or even touching them on stage, pulling tips down from the rail when they come over for them, blowing on their crotch when they get close to you, stealing parts of their costumes etc...

    If you are doing something to a dancer that causes them to ask you to stop it means you are out of line. You are at their place of business, you get them to notice you buy spending money on them. Anything else you do to get them to "notice you" pretty much makes you a jerk and a topic of discussion in the dressing room as a guy to be avoided.

    And to think that guys come on here wondering why some dancers are in a bad mood at work....
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    Yoda thanks for your response.

    Theone, I have had guys do things to me like squeeze my breast way insanely hard or pinch the hell out of my nipple, smack me, pull me down into their lap breaking my balance so that i actually fall. When I say stop that hurts, they DON'T. And that is part of what makes me think these guys are jerking it to weird stuff that shows women that love to be hurt. It's disturbing.
    The guys I'm talking about get upset when you try to draw boundaries, they feel we shouldn't have any. I'm sure if you would never hurt a woman you think every man is like you and all we have to do is say "hey, dude, did you know it hurts when you hit me?" If you even have to explain that to a guy believe me he doesn't care. Also since you do not work in a club you seem unaware the way things are for many of us girls right now, we are our own security. Bouncers aren't doing fuckall for us. I'm getting a little aggravated with, every time a dancer talks about a negative experience at work, online or IRL, the stock answer is, "well have the bouncer kick them out" At many clubs that is not even an option.

    Yoda I appreciate your exhaustive list of nightmare customer stuff, I think you got it all. My first night dancing I figured out to keep my costume tucked into my garter or on my body somehow after seeing some idiot play keep away with another girl's costume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missykrissy View Post
    .............the way things are for many of us girls right now, we are our own security. Bouncers aren't doing fuckall for us. I'm getting a little aggravated with, every time a dancer talks about a negative experience at work, online or IRL, the stock answer is, "well have the bouncer kick them out" At many clubs that is not even an option.
    At the club I am a customer at..the DJ is the bouncer downstairs with an upstairs floor man in VIP so being the DJ he isn't always aware of what is going on....yet he should be. And get ready for this......more than one time I have seen HIM spank the dancer on stage during her set. And I mean...HARD to the point that you can hear the slap above the music. Of course, this just encourages the customers that think this might be appropriate. I told the one dancer she should go up and give him a hug and a nice knee to the groin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missykrissy View Post
    Also since you do not work in a club you seem unaware the way things are for many of us girls right now, we are our own security. Bouncers aren't doing fuckall for us. I'm getting a little aggravated with, every time a dancer talks about a negative experience at work, online or IRL, the stock answer is, "well have the bouncer kick them out" At many clubs that is not even an option.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    At the club I am a customer at..the DJ is the bouncer downstairs with an upstairs floor man in VIP so being the DJ he isn't always aware of what is going on....yet he should be. And get ready for this......more than one time I have seen HIM spank the dancer on stage during her set. And I mean...HARD to the point that you can hear the slap above the music. Of course, this just encourages the customers that think this might be appropriate. I told the one dancer she should go up and give him a hug and a nice knee to the groin.
    This makes me sad and angry. I can only speak for the clubs that I go to in Mass, RI and CT but this sort of crap just isn't tolerated. The club I was at last night actually tossed a female customer and her date for simply mouthing off to a dancer on stage. It's sad that, in other parts of the country, violence and abuse towards the dancers goes unstopped...
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    Quote Originally Posted by missykrissy View Post
    Theone, I have had guys do things to me like squeeze my breast way insanely hard or pinch the hell out of my nipple, smack me, pull me down into their lap breaking my balance so that i actually fall. When I say stop that hurts, they DON'T. And that is part of what makes me think these guys are jerking it to weird stuff that shows women that love to be hurt. It's disturbing.
    The guys I'm talking about get upset when you try to draw boundaries, they feel we shouldn't have any. I'm sure if you would never hurt a woman you think every man is like you and all we have to do is say "hey, dude, did you know it hurts when you hit me?" If you even have to explain that to a guy believe me he doesn't care. Also since you do not work in a club you seem unaware the way things are for many of us girls right now, we are our own security. Bouncers aren't doing fuckall for us. I'm getting a little aggravated with, every time a dancer talks about a negative experience at work, online or IRL, the stock answer is, "well have the bouncer kick them out" At many clubs that is not even an option.
    I agree that is unacceptable.

    I wanted to just give to a males perspective on why a man might do that.

    I don't know about the whole jerking it to weird porn idea. Men usually want to dominate things around them and be playful with women, so that combined with the fact that if he is in a stripclub he is probably desperate, and the fact that his mates are probably egging him on makes him do those things you described.

    Look at it this way: you walk home with a bunch of desperate dude's cash.

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    im not sure , but im sick of it too! it seems that female customers or drunk entitled rich douches like to do it the most in my experience.. i had a man bite me so hard it broke the skin last fall, but since he was rich and a regular patron of the club nobody did anything! im also sick of corrupt bouncers, or management that doesn't respect or protect their dancers!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by !TheOne View Post
    Look at it this way: you walk home with a bunch of desperate dude's cash.
    So that makes assault and battery OK then? I don't think so. That's not what dancers sign-on for when they take the job. What we are talking about in this thread are men who abuse women. Stop making cutesy excuses for what they are doing.
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    ^^^I mean seriously dude I was going to get paid at any job anyway so not sure what your point is.
    The OP's question is why does this happen not please make me feel good about this happening. I know I get to leave with money so does everyone from every job.

    TO, you seem to insist you're not that guy but need to make excuses for *that guy*

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    So that makes assault and battery OK then? I don't think so. That's not what dancers sign-on for when they take the job.
    ^Exactly! The old, "well what do you expect?" line paired with no sympathy gets old fast. We don't expect sympathy, but we do deserve to be shown a little respect and see some basic social etiquette. We CHOOSE to strip, some of us even CHOOSE to work at touching clubs, we CHOOSE to allow touching where permitted and acceptable, we CHOOSE to do what we feel comfortable doing, we DO NOT choose to be assaulted! MOST men wouldn't walk up to a girl in an office environment and grab her ass expecting her not to react. So why do they seemed so shocked when they walk up to a Dancer at her place of work and grab or spank her on the ass-and she tells them off or gets them thrown out!?! It's not something that is excepted or acceptable anywhere. I'm sure most of their wives would even react badly if they walked past them and aggressively, not affectionately, did the same thing . I can understand why, but it's unfortunate that SOME customers cannot grasp the concept that a dancer's job is "to get naked for money", to entertain, and that's it.

    Many customers don't realise that if they follow the rules and respect the girls (even if they go home and trash talk about the "rippers" later ) they are going to have more fun and a much better night-full of titties and free from conflict!
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    Quote Originally Posted by missykrissy View Post
    ^^^I mean seriously dude I was going to get paid at any job anyway so not sure what your point is.
    The OP's question is why does this happen not please make me feel good about this happening. I know I get to leave with money so does everyone from every job.

    TO, you seem to insist you're not that guy but need to make excuses for *that guy*
    I agree with you.

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    Here's some male perspective for you: I want to reach out and touch you. Yes, I want to reach out and touch the sultry, undulating hips of the dancer in front of me. I want to rub my hands all over her back and breasts. But do I actually follow through? No. My conscience and my moral stance (or foundation) prevents me from doing this. It's the check and balance system that has been put in place at an early age to make sure I act in a civil manner years later as an adult. Unfortunately, some guys ignore this "buffer", for lack of a better word, or just plain don't have it to begin with. "Oh, what's a little pat on the rump gonna do, kill her?" It is very sad.
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    I've never seen a customer do that to a dancer on stage, but then again I don't live in the states.

    I have seen on the other hand plenty of strippers do that sort of stuff to customers including me so you have my sympathy. I have have stripper slap my belly on stage, brutally bouncing on my nuts flatting them, and so on. Its why I rarely tip any more, unless I trust the girl.

    I do know some guys get off on that so ask first.

    I've spanked strippers, but only with permission, and only as hard as they're okay with. No means no and I don't start spanking if I havea no. Wish I got the same curtasy.

    Ironicly I wouldn't care about being spanked, but the other stuff no thank you.

    Customers have got to respect dancers boundaries and vis versa.

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    Paying a stripper to spank her is kinda weird.

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