^ sierra is just expressing her opinion, and the other side of the debate, no need to get mean :p that's what this forum is for, discussions ! she isn't being rude or mean





^ sierra is just expressing her opinion, and the other side of the debate, no need to get mean :p that's what this forum is for, discussions ! she isn't being rude or mean




We are all gonna die anyways lol shieet.
But on a serious note, I do what I can.
1. I wear sunscreen to protect my skin and prevent premature aging. (although being olive complected, I know my skin does better in the sun than the lighter skinned/fair variety)
2. I opt for whole foods/clean eating most of the time now. We have our own vegetable garden and fruit trees so thats pretty much organic for us...no pesticides/crap in the fruits. We also opt for organic milk and foods when we can.
3. Avoid stress, and I laugh a lot. It really is the best medicine and I am actually trying to get those "laugh lines" near my eyes. I like those lines...they have character.
4. Life is common sense, you know what is good and bad for you. You know what you should do...but do what you want. Its your life.
One minute what was good for us is now bad for us...and vice versa. There are just to many things that can and will kill us...the last thing I wanna do is kill myself stressin over life. I used to over analyze everything...I have simplified my life. (not dumb it down...just chilled out) Because knowledge is power and ignorance is never bliss.




And we rarely use our microwave anymore. Most of the time we use the oven, grill, etc. or just eat the foods raw.
No, sorry, some random person on the internet quoting some journal I've never heard of with no link to the source isn't enough proof for me. So I googled Journal Franz Weber issue 19 and this was the top result:
Microwaves Damage Food - ABC Science
The author briefly examines two studies that are often cited when claims about the dangers of microwaving are made. One of these studies is the one you quoted, from Journal Franz Weber. They had this to say about it:
"The second study looked at levels of various chemicals and cells in the blood of volunteers who ate microwaved food. The study was published in a certain Franz Weber's magazine, modestly called Journal Franz Weber (Issue 19, January-March 1992), which is definitely not a peer-reviewed journal. If it had been, it might have noticed that there were only eight volunteers - which is such a small number, that it's impossible to get any statistically significant results. Furthermore, none of the blood analysis results fell out of the normal range of variation. Indeed, the volunteers, who all ate macrobiotic food, came to the study with a low-grade anaemia. Regardless of this, the study came to the conclusion that "… microwave ovens are more harmful than the Dachau gas chambers…" and "… it is certain that you will die from cancer …"."
I'm not telling anyone what to believe or how to prepare their food. If you aren't comfortable microwaving your food, then don't do it. I'm just posting what research I found, most of which was in the snopes article that was linked in the original post!
A lot of people seem to be freaking out over the term "radiation". But the fact is there are MANY different kinds of radiation, divided into two categories. Ionizing radiation, which has enough energy to damage DNA (which can result in cancer), includes X-Rays, some UV rays, and Gamma Rays. Non-ionizing radiation does NOT have the energy to damage DNA, and aside from a couple exceptions, there is little evidence that most sources of non-ionizing radiation cause cancer. These include (among others) radio waves, radar, radiation put off by TV and cell phones, and microwaves.
You can read more about different kinds of radiation and risks of exposure here:
Radiation Exposure and Cancer - The American Cancer Society
And in case you're curious, here's what they had to say about microwaves:
"Microwave ovens work by using very high levels of microwaves to heat foods. The microwaves are contained within the oven itself. When microwave ovens are used according to instructions, there is no evidence that they pose a health risk to people. Nor do microwaves make food radioactive.
Exposure to high levels of microwaves can have effects on health. Such exposure could lead to a painful burn or to the development of cataracts in the lenses of the eyes. These injuries are caused only by exposure to large amounts of microwave radiation, however, and the small amount that can leak from a microwave oven does not cause these problems.
Some older models of pacemakers might be affected if the person with the pacemaker gets too close to a microwave oven while it is on. This is unlikely to be a concern with modern pacemakers, which are shielded from outside electrical activity."
Like I said, do what you are comfortable with and what you feel is best for you. I was just sharing info I found on the topic for those who are interested.
I could say the same thing to you.
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^^^ Well I did post studies. You can google the words I posted and the links/sources will come up of course. And I didn't previously post links because I didn't care that much TBH, and just reposted the 2 my friend posted on facebook. But since I'm apparently some random person who is apparently posting from some journal you've never heard of, I will post a bunch of links at the end of this post. It goes both ways.
Also, a lot of studies are paid off by certain companies (big exchange of cash!) in order to skew results. Studies have to be valid, and a lot of the time they aren't. Like, for example, if they purposely only looked at the blood 1 day after they ingested microwaved food when its already a known fact that negative effects start occurring XX number of months. Things like that. So I don't even trust most studies honestly because they are often paid off and then skewed in order to show the desired results.
And the study you posted is definitely not valid because its totally missing the control group, which would be the same food cooked in an oven or toaster oven. They also only looked at people on the macrobiotic diet, but of course there is no mention of them being tested for thinks like gluten sensitivity or intolerance which could skew the way their body digests/processes food (gluten often destroys the lining of the intestines that absorbs nutrients so toxins leak into the body/blood).
I would also like to note that long term studies have NOT been done on this issue, and that is because microwaves would probably be taken off the market. Or at least there is a strong possibility. They were banned for like 15 years in Russia actually.
This link as a ton of peer reviewed studies, since you like citing those. There are too many to even quote on here, but they are all listed at these 2 sites:
More helpful links:
That wasn't directed at you. I was replying to angelica212, where she said '"An article also appeared in issue 19 of the Journal Franz Weber in which it was stated that the CONSUMPTION OF FOOD COOKED in microwave ovens had cancerous effects on the blood.'-is that not enough of proof for you?", and simply meant that no, her (the random person) simply quoting that study was NOT enough for me.
I agree, it's always good to be skeptical of the source.
I'm not sure what study you are referring to that I posted, I don't believe I directly linked any studies directly (I went back and checked and couldn't find what you meant). Plenty were referenced in the articles I posted but again I'm not sure which one you are referring to. I'll take your word for it, though.
Look, I wasn't trying to shit your post or your opinions. I just thought it was interesting, and wanted to share another perspective. Hell, half my posts came from the Snopes article that you originally shared.
It's hard to understand someone's tone through text, but I can't help but feel this (and other parts of your post) were meant to be snarky, which I really think is kind of unnecessary. I don't see what's wrong with sharing information and posting sources. Sorry if you felt like I was trying to attack you in some way, but as I said before that was not my intent.
Anyway, thanks for the links. Like I said, I do think this is interesting stuff and will look through them later. I think I'm done talking about Microwaves for now, though.
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Saw this on ehealthMD:
http://ehealthmd.com/content/microwa...#axzz2WANcE867





According to like everyone I've ever met off SW, I act ~*nothing*~ like my SW persona. Apparently I come off mean and serious 24/7 on here to the point where it weirds people out because I'm NEVER serious and always act silly IRL. Or so I've been told over and over again lol. But no one has been able to pinpoint why this is.
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Yes!! Lets face it almost everything causes cancer/some kind of slow and painful death these days.Im not suggesting that its a good idea to use a microwave for cooking everything with but ocasionally reheating food in one isnt worth stressing out over....Remember stressing out about getting cancer causes cancer (probably?!)





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Hey Black Sheep,
I see that you look after yourself, can I suggest monitoring the type of sunscreen you use. The link I will post recommends 3 brands of organic, all natural sunscreen which don't contain the carcenogenic compounds found in conventional sunscreen. xx
http://www.thewellnesswarrior.com.au...mer-sun-guide/




Thanks for the info, I will be tossing out my microwave. I'll miss the soggy tv dinners though.










I mean, I used to think that way too until I got really sick and was mostly just stuck in bed without a voice, feeling like shit. I used to be like "FUCK IT one day I'll be dead who cares!" but what you don't think about is what it feels like when you are stuck in bed feeling sick and having the medical debt pile up while being unable to work (or work a lot). Its very scary because you feel so helpless, and are worried you will die or stay in that sick purgatory state forever. I think I still have PTSD from all that.
I was actually going to point that out too, but thought I was being asshole enough. A lot of cosmetics and a lot of sunscreens are REALLY bad for you. Its often better to go sunscreen-less than to apply a lot of the harsh chemicals on your skin everyday (unless you work outside all day in like 100 degree sun where you'd burn badly). The skin is the largest organ in the body, and most of the stuff that touches your skin is absorbed into your body and your bloodstream. Scary.
You can still make them in a toaster oven or regular oven if you take them out of the plastic, if you miss them THAT much lol. You're better off making your own (healthy) ones though.
Yes I agree. Paid off studies. With this information so painful obvious and easy to find, confirming that it was paid off or a purposely designed poor study that looks like it proves a lot at first glance, but when you look depeer, you realize it doesn't prove anything because it didn't test correctly (i.e. looked at the experimental group too quickly or too late). lol. And from legit sources.





speaking of sunscreens, i use them religiously too, every single day as well as a hat of some sort..i use burt's bees chemical-free sunscreen , it says its 100 % natural..i hope that's an ok one! im pretty anal about cosmetics, sunsreens, face washes, moisturizers..one of my friends' is allergic to titanium dioxide im going to suggest the coconut oil to her! the only problem is i hear it makes you break out because it clogs pores :/



[QUOTE=GlamourRouge;2502545]I mean, I used to think that way too until I got really sick and was mostly just stuck in bed without a voice, feeling like shit. I used to be like "FUCK IT one day I'll be dead who cares!" but what you don't think about is what it feels like when you are stuck in bed feeling sick and having the medical debt pile up while being unable to work (or work a lot). Its very scary because you feel so helpless, and are worried you will die or stay in that sick purgatory state forever. I think I still have PTSD from all that.
Im sorry to hear about.I hope you are better now.I guess im lucky I have never been seriously ill and have never had to seek medical treatment for anything.I do eat a healthy diet(most of the time) and workout most days.I use sunscreen and stuff like that.My main down fall is drinking way to much and smoking but only socially.Of course I do worry about things causing cancer and other diseases but the reality is that there are sooo many things that may or may not (depending on whose research you choose to believe) cause illness such as cancer that to attempt



....to avoid everything that is bad for us would ultimately consume ones life and could still be futile cos its still not gonna garantee a long and healthy life.
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