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    Planned Parenthood is definitely less judgemental than other clinics, I would try there instead.

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    Well first off - that sucks! HUGS.

    That clinic, as well, what a nightmare. I go to one that is actually mostly for gay men - they are super non-judgemental, and all the sex workers go there. They have never batted an eye, and encourage me to come back and get tested all the time and take free condoms and are generally lovely. Try to find a place like that!!! Just for future reference. And don't freak out too much over the whole STD aspect, and especially not the pregnancy aspect. The chances of anything actually happening are miniscule.

    On to the club and the actual situation...ugh. That's just horrible. And the others have said everything so well already. Frankly, the thought of kissing a customer makes me want to vomit. I'll grid his dick right off, I'll even let them lick my boobs or grab my ass (in clubs that allow it)..but KISSING??? Just..as a standard?? Sure, there are some guys that I have wanted to kiss, but I couldn't just go around making out with all the customers. Vomit.

    The thing is - you are not obligated to do the norm. At ALL. I worked at a club for a while that started to get really really dirty - guys getting jacked off in VIP, girls getting fingered, etc etc. I never did any of it. You don't HAVE to. There is no club that would put that as part of the rules (because its ILLEGAL) - so check your clubs official rules. Those are what you HAVE to follow, as a bare minimum. The extent to which you push that limit is up to YOU and only YOU. What is the club going to do, fire you for not hooking? If they would, leave. As for the guys, make sure that you are not promising something you don't intend to deliver, get the money upfront, and if they push you, tell them that if they don't stop, you are leaving and keeping the money.

    Final note on drinks - I think someone else said it, but I have a deal where the servers charge the custy full price, and bring me a soda, rather than a mixed drink. Club still gets the money, you don't have to drink.

    Hope that you can shake this horrible experience soon, and that you never have to deal with it again.
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    Thanks again you guys, my days have been better and I haven't had any nightmarish experiences or STDs lol...like the Jesus lady said.
    So far , things have been going well actually. I learned from it , and I spoke to management but they were kind of "dont tell me I dont care" kind of attitude.

    I guess its all up to dancers, which I think, is a little empowering in a way.
    ty again

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    ^As an irrelevant side note, I was amazed you had a $2k/hour VIP in your club. From the pictures you've posted of your club's patio, I thought you were working in more of a dive!

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    Re: your mgrs' attitude, if they are really so nonchalant abt their dancers being sexually assaulted, GTFO of there!! It's good that you've learnt from this experience - not that I'm happy for you having had to go thru it the hard way - but that "don't tell me I don't care" response has me very afraid for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    ^As an irrelevant side note, I was amazed you had a $2k/hour VIP in your club. From the pictures you've posted of your club's patio, I thought you were working in more of a dive!
    I think maybe you confused me with someone else's post because I don't think I've posted any pictures of my club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    Re: your mgrs' attitude, if they are really so nonchalant abt their dancers being sexually assaulted, GTFO of there!! It's good that you've learnt from this experience - not that I'm happy for you having had to go thru it the hard way - but that "don't tell me I don't care" response has me very afraid for you.
    I have just been trying to evade the rooms or at least make sure I look busy so they don't pick me for them. I mean, I tend to try to stick it out at work unless everyday becomes like a chore, but I understand your concern. I do get worried sometimes but at the same time, I wonder if it was just one freak incident you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triixie View Post
    I have just been trying to evade the rooms or at least make sure I look busy so they don't pick me for them. I mean, I tend to try to stick it out at work unless everyday becomes like a chore, but I understand your concern. I do get worried sometimes but at the same time, I wonder if it was just one freak incident you know
    It's possible that it ends up being one freak incident, but management's attitude perpetuates and environment where that freak incident is likely to recur. You also now know, pretty much without a doubt, that if it were to reoccur, no one in that club has your back and it will end the same. Are there no other clubs in your city? There is not enough money in the world that would convince me to go back to that club if I was in your shoes, at least not if I had any other options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triixie View Post
    I think maybe you confused me with someone else's post because I don't think I've posted any pictures of my club
    You're right. I got you mixed up with user "Trixxi." Silly me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    You're right. I got you mixed up with user "Trixxi." Silly me.
    noo worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triixie View Post
    I have just been trying to evade the rooms or at least make sure I look busy so they don't pick me for them. I mean, I tend to try to stick it out at work unless everyday becomes like a chore, but I understand your concern. I do get worried sometimes but at the same time, I wonder if it was just one freak incident you know
    So they don't pick you? I'm confused...can't you just turn it down if you don't want to work in them anymore?

    Side note - I don't think I could work in a club where the managers had that attitude, but at the same time, the idea of having to actively avoid being taken away for a 2K VIP...damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triixie View Post
    I have just been trying to evade the rooms or at least make sure I look busy so they don't pick me for them.
    ^You don't have to avoid the VIP rooms, just understand that you are in control-not the customer. Or, are you required by management to do more for the $2k "dance" i.e. are they encouraging or pushing prostitution in the club?
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    I have just been trying to evade the rooms or at least make sure I look busy so they don't pick me for them. I mean, I tend to try to stick it out at work unless everyday becomes like a chore, but I understand your concern. I do get worried sometimes but at the same time, I wonder if it was just one freak incident you know
    You don't have to avoid the VIP rooms, just understand that you are in control-not the customer. Or, are you required by management to do more for the $2k "dance" i.e. are they encouraging or pushing prostitution in the club?
    management's attitude perpetuates and environment where that freak incident is likely to recur. You also now know, pretty much without a doubt, that if it were to reoccur, no one in that club has your back and it will end the same. Are there no other clubs in your city?

    I guess it's time to talk some real world issues. From the perspective of paying customers, a $2,000 price tag automatically conveys an implied promise of the customer receiving much more than a lap dance in VIP !!! From the perspective of the clubowner, being able to get away with charging $2,000 for VIP, with customers being willing to pay this amount repeatedly, carries the implied knowledge that many dancers in this club are in fact delivering much more than a lap dance in VIP. So while the letter of the law may be on her side, when a 'clean' dancer attempts to cash in on a $2,000 VIP without delivering the same services that many other dancers do, customers will in fact feel 'cheated', and the clubowner is likely to see this as a threat to his successful ( albeit illegal ) business model.

    My personal advice is that the business model in this club is a lose-lose situation for a 'clean' dancer. If a similar incident does arise in the future, the clubowner is much more likely to support the customer's position ( thus the clubowner's future income from future VIP sales ) than the 'clean' dancer's position ( which arguably threatens future clubowner income because customers are simply never going to pay $2k for 'just' a lap dance ). If the 'clean' dancer avoids / refuses to provide the same level of VIP services that other dancers are willing to provide, not only is she going to earn comparatively little money but she's likely to be viewed as an 'outsider' by club management and 'dirty' fellow dancers ( and perhaps viewed as a 'risk' i.e. the possibility that the 'clean' dancer could cause trouble with LE ). And if and when the club is eventually busted, the 'clean' dancer may be at risk of being swept up right along with the 'dirty' dancers and faced with the prospect of having to prove that she did NOT provide illegal levels of contact that some well respected local cop says she did.

    Find another club ... fast !!!

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    ^wtf? How in the world can you possibly catch something through clothing - especially with TWO physical barriers (his pants and your gstring) between your skin and his?

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    YOu dont need the plan b or ec pill if you didnt actually have sex. You cannot get preggo from cum that was outside of the body. And yea if you are uncomfortable with what the guy was doing you shouldve just told him, hell no. Especially since u alrdy got his $$.lol. Just saying what is he gunna do, vip hosts r outside so he cannot hurt u and u alrdy got this fuck's $$ so fuck him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triixie View Post
    I went to get STD tests, and they said I can't get anything because I am taking an antibiotic, and the tests wouldn't come out right. The lady talked to me about Jesus for an hour and told me to quit dancing because I would "never be able to get out of the industry and Jesus wants me to leave and get married to the right guy"..... All she did was show me pictures of all the shit that will happen to me and stuff and she was like , this will happen to YOU one day, I felt so degraded like all this was something I planned and shit and I'm dirty or something and I'm gonna catch some shit because I'm dirty..."one day you sill get herpes or syphilis and blah blah"...So I left crying from there, because Im like what the fuck I didn't go there to feel worse. Shes all like showing me pictures of frickin humungus warts and people with pimples all over their faces and dicks and vaginas....

    Im not sucking dick , touching dick....It was just a fucking wierd incident...

    I got a pregnancy test just for my own piece of mind and it was negative. I just have a question.

    My club allows girls to grind against the guys for lapdances, it is usually not *air dancing*....Im okay with it, but this friggin Jesus lady kept trying to tell me I was gonna die, and one day for sure Im gonna get an STD from just working there........I doubt that but anyway....how do you make sure you don't get like... skin to skin contact STD shit from lapdances.

    I'm still going to fucking work, I need the damn money, the people at the clinic treated me like Im just there for the "glamour" of it or some shit....I like my job, I would appreciate not being shown a thousand pictures and about pimples and how Jesus wishes for me to stop making money.....
    God , I really didn't need the added stress....I go to work do my job, and fucking people act like I'm trying to kill people or something and I need a power point presentation as if I was a prostitute having sex with customers....I'm so fucking pissed off at the way people treat dancers.
    This lady isnt supposed to state her personal feelings to u at all, its unprofessional and wrong. We are taught not to do this in nursing school and I have a degree in it so I know. Fuck her and her feelins like u said it was one weird incident, its not like u do it all the time. You cannot get a disease from dancing on a man. GEeze some pile...

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    One of the best defenses is situations like these is laughter. Generally it will send the person you're laughing at into a shame spiral...especially if you're laughing at his dick, or his pathetic attempts to touch you. Some men will turn angry upon being laughed at - so feel the situation out.

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    Its managements fault because they didnt even tell you what goes on in there, like nudity and touching. But my gosh $2000 thats a rip off (good for you though). How much of that do you get? My guess is that management expect you to have sex or blow the guy in there. At 2k I would image that guy would have expected a lot more. Again, this is ALL managements fault.

    In future, have set boundries. Tell them this is a strip club, not a brothel and you dont do that. You dont need to let guys stick there fingers in you since thats not what you agreed to.



    Quote Originally Posted by Triixie View Post

    My club allows girls to grind against the guys for lapdances, it is usually not *air dancing*....Im okay with it, but this friggin Jesus lady kept trying to tell me I was gonna die, and one day for sure Im gonna get an STD from just working there........I doubt that but anyway....how do you make sure you don't get like... skin to skin contact STD shit from lapdances.
    So I take it you take the guys pants off and then grind on him? Or are you one of them girls that allows them to take there dicks out of pants and grind on them that way? Serious question. Cause if not you should be fine.

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    I think most pharmacies carry plan B back up birth control and you don't need a prescription if you are over 17 and I know that isn't an issue for you.

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    I'm not patronizing, but I really think you need to know what usually goes on in the VIP-rooms before entering. All my experience says this is no arena we (dancers/strippers) are to set the rules&expectations. If you're not OK with it, don't enter!
    I don't say you should accept real sex, but in the VIP-rooms I've worked, bj's, hj's etc have been pretty much the standard.
    This have been no secret to the management, and you would get a quick exit if you didn't play along.
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    You do NOT need to take the morning after pill at all. You cannot get pregnant from what you described.

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    Urgh, that shit is the worst.

    Next time, try this:

    "No. I'm a dancer, not a hooker. Now, you can sit there and enjoy the dances you bought, or you can get up and leave. Either way, I got paid. And if you really want to whine about it, let's go tell the manager exactly what your complaint is. Hmm? So, what's your choice? Enjoy your remaining dances like a gentleman, or remove yourself from my presence?"



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    ^^I had to leave a room early for my own safety at my old club once. Mgmt gave the guy a refund, kissed his ass, and said they were doing me a favor by only taking half my money. When I reiterated that I didn't feel safe, the host told me not to go to rooms unless I was prepared to deal with what goes on in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol1337a View Post
    ^^I had to leave a room early for my own safety at my old club once. Mgmt gave the guy a refund, kissed his ass, and said they were doing me a favor by only taking half my money. When I reiterated that I didn't feel safe, the host told me not to go to rooms unless I was prepared to deal with what goes on in them.
    Sadly this has been true IME as well. I have tried saying things along the lines of audrey.mtl's suggestion but certain customers just can't be reasoned w/, & more & more mgmts can't be bothered to intervene in anything that gets in the way of their own profits.

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