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    Default When a bouncer acts foolish, I loose.....

    So I was on a smoke break and my manager was telling me a few groups of customers had just come in. She told me to try chatting up a certain group that had a customer that liked to spend money. I sit and chat with them and one of them was having a hard time getting the ATM to work (our ATM sucks sometimes) so he left to go to gas station down the street to get the money. I stuck with the table to wait for him and one of his buddies asks, "What does $50 get him?" about one of the other guys. I tell him, "It's $20 per song so it would be 2 fantastic dances." He hands me a 50 and tells me to take him in back. We pay and get out dances going, when we were done I told him I'd be back to the table after I got a drink.

    I went to collect my money from the VIP bouncer and he hands me $30. I ask him, "Did that guy get the other $10 that was the change?" Bouncer: "No, he just walked out." Me: "So where is the change? I thought the dancer got to keep change as tips." Bouncer: "If someone leaves without taking the change I get to keep it." Me: "Well I've never heard of that, but whatever."
    I go to the bar (pissed off) and tell my boss about it and she said she would handle it. Well, the first guy I was talking to came to the bar to get a drink so I told him I'd be to the table after a smoke break. He said, "Alright. I found an ATM so we're good to go."

    I go outside for another cigarette and she came out to find out who the 10 belonged to. I told her and she went to give him his change. I lucked out and he told her to let me keep it. (love it when the customer lets me keep the change BTW) I can only guess that the situation irked the table because they were gone before I even got back in. Hundreds of dollars out the door. I never get guys to go to the ATM for me. So i was even more pissed.

    Well, appearently the bouncer was pissed that I got the money taken away from him. I go in the the back and the customer has one hand on my breast and the other on my leg. Bouncers stands up and says, "Hey, watch your hands buddy." The customer promptly put his hands to his sides and I apologized to him. This guy was really nice too. He was really quiet and it was his first lapdance ever. So I felt bad. The song ends and I ask him if he wants another dance, he said "I do but I'm kind of nervous now." I tell him, "I don't know why he is doing this but these are my rules back here" I tell him I let customers touch whatever my bottom isn't covering. No crotch or butt, but I'm comfortable with the rest of my body. He agrees to another dance. But the 2 were all he did. All night the bouncer kept doing this. And all night the customers were too uneasy to get more than 1 or 2 dances.

    The fucked my money up. If I have a good night, I tip the bouncers. So I don't know what this guys problem was. Why mess with someone's money? If he hadn't done that he could have easily gotten more than the original $10, so WTF. I just needed to vent about this. I'm glad I'm not working this week.....

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    Um not to be rude but you kept leaving the table to smoke, go get yourself a drink. Don't do that! This is why they left , you didn't seem concerned with them. The other guys spent money and you probably could of turned that into a vip and doesn't your club run cards manually? I was just at a club and when the atm didn't work I just took them to a waitress and had their card run manually which also turned into vip for me because I went out of my way to help and they could only use that money on dances/vip.

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    Default Re: When a bouncer acts foolish, I loose.....

    It's hard to say without knowing the bigger picture as far as your standing at your club, but I honestly would tend to side with the bouncer on this one.. like, if the guy intended to tip YOU, he may have handed you the change, but perhaps he actually did intend to tip the bouncer.
    I think that in general, hourly staff (bouncers, dj's etc) don't like to see a girl being greedy over something like $10 if they truly do believe that the money was for them and not for the girl. I understand this because they are there to help us out, they put up with a lot of stuff for our sake, and are commonly undertipped (I don't know how you tip so I cannot say that is this particular bouncer's reasoning for how he acted). And the bouncer was within his job description to keep an eye on your dances, especially since in his mind he was being ripped off his $10 tip, why should he turn a blind eye to you being groped? Something like that could, in theory, get him in trouble, so why be lenient if he knows you're going to make a stink about $10?

    I don't have bouncers acting like this with me, probably because I tip really good every time I work, so when you have your staff "trained" to know you will take care of them, you do get a certain preference. But not so much if they think you won't help them out. It's a little jacked up but at the same time, not all dancers are easy to work with and they don't have much of a recourse in most situations.

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    Just want to also add that because you brought management into the situation over the $10, he was probably pretty pissed and you're lucky that all he did was be strict on your dances. I have seen staff recommend certain girls to customers and not recommend others because of their misgivings, I have seen staff outright tell customers with money to avoid certain girls, and you truly do not want to be one of the girls they have issues with, because they all talk and do have more power over how easy your job will or won't be than you like to think.

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    Default Re: When a bouncer acts foolish, I loose.....

    i would try and make peace with this bouncer asap. they can make your work experience a living hell and fuck you out of a lot of money. i'd tip him, and then give him the ten back and im not saying he's right but for the sake of your money i'd just try and clear things up with him

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    Default Re: When a bouncer acts foolish, I loose.....

    Is everyone missing the whole point?!? She thinks these customers left because of the bouncer.....they left because she gave them shitty service! Leaving constantly to get a drink, smoke. Seriously lol I don't even leave to pee until I'm in vip.

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    ^ that is true. but nothing can be done about that now, except not repeating the mistake..the bouncer however will probably hold a grudge!

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    Default Re: When a bouncer acts foolish, I loose.....

    @Michele- I do see what you're saying about the whole customer service thing. To clarify, they came in while I was taking a break and I went to them after coming in. My whole issue with the bouncer keeping the 10 is that the guy I had brought back there had nothing to do with the transaction besides recieving the dances. I didn't even know if the 10 was intended as a tip, and I agree with my boss bringing it to him first. At the time, since I was angry, my brain just went directly to them leaving because of that since it was right after my boss went to give the customer his change back. It was a table of 4 and they were all getting getting dances with different girls, so I didn't see why else they would leave. They could have simply grown bored and left for all anyone knows. I do see how Going out after those dances probably hindered things though. I probably should have just gone to the DR, freshened up and gone back to the table. And I shouldn't blame the bouncer for them leaving.
    We only take cash at our club and have an ATM that likes to act up a lot. That's why one of the guys had to leave to get money. I really wish my club would invest in a CC machine though.

    @Chef- The staff in my club are definitely under tipped. It is extremely uncommon for anyone to tip. But I do believe in the whole karma and paying it forward thing. I'll hunt all 6 bouncers down to tip them when I'm having a good night. And they try to help me out in regards to finding customers with money.
    I do see how my actions were what caused him to start acting the way he did toward me. I was just irritated at the time because It's so much easier to let a guy grab my boobs than to do the flipping into laps and stuff other dancers do. I want to give the customers an experience the other dancers don't give and there's never been anything said to me about the contact I allow so I thought I was good and legal. I guess it's time for me to try breaking that habit and learning how to give a lower contact dance though. There is nothing wrong with trying to maximize my money with less contact and I know there are some girls in the club that allow zero customer contact. Maybe it will be beneficial for me too.

    @Simone- I probably will swallow my losses and give him the $10. I prefer being on the bouncers good side.


    After having a couple of days to calm down and seeing what you guys thought, I realize I was just being uber greedy. It was only 10 piddly dollars. Next time I need to just let it go and find the money somewhere else. I'll work on calming down and not over reacting too. Along with adjusting the way I act with customer service. Thanks to the wake up call ladies. I can always rely on you to not coddle me.

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    Default Re: When a bouncer acts foolish, I loose.....

    Jesus! It was just $10 dollars, let it go. You went to the management for $10 freaking dollars.

    The best you can do now, is apologize to the bouncer, tip him well and give him the $10 back, if you don't want him to keep "messing up your money".

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