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    K so I have been doing body rubs for a yr or so, but I only do what review boards call L1 and undress to a thong. I give a really good strong massage, but I do not do B2B, Nuru, Full service, honestly if I wanted to do all that, than I would be an escort and get paid a lot more money. But lately it seems the guys are super aggressive. Like the other day this guys grabbed my ass and was very close to the anal region and he said "you don't have to flinch" or this guy was aggressively foundling my nipples and he said "do you like that" I said "no" I get offended, frustrated and in result nobody is happy. How do you girls handle these situations. I don't believe i should fake it either cause then they come back and get even more aggressive. And if you say no in a nice way, they don't take you seriously.

    I would like to keep this job without feeling violated every day.

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    First of you are doing fine. There is a reason some girls post under body rubs and that is because body rub girls and masseuses don’t (or at least or not supposed to) offer sex. And for that matter anything else you are not comfortable doing. I personally do not do nuru or tantra. Pretty much all these guys are entitled to is a simple back rub and little jack, nothing else.

    So how do I handle aggressive, pushy clients? Well I allow guys to touch me but there are certain areas they are simply not allowed to touch and when they do I tell them right away that it is off limits. I am very assertive so to me telling guys off is not a problem but what you could do is say “please do not…” Believe it or not sometimes please makes all the difference to these losers. However if they are really aggressive then charge them extra for a feel! I do it all the time and you wouldn’t believe how many guys agree and pay out.

    I hope that helps sweetie.

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    Unfortunately alot of these guys *should* be calling an escort but they're calling a body rub girl because they're cheap as fukk and don't wanna pay escort rates. Ur not doing anything wrong, they know e xactly what they're doing and these types aren't worth trying to make into a regular anyway. I had to force a guy off of me because he was trying to rub his bare you know what on my crotch and he was like "I thought all girls did b2b". I was like no that's not b2b it's you trying to give me an std!! Seriously, wtf is wrong with some of them?!

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    I'm from a very liberal city. Here, most erotic masseuses offer a massage completely nude, body to body, nuru (which is body to body but with the nuru gel instead of oil but it's pretty much the same thing) and the happy ending. We allow high contact, clients are allowed to touch everywhere but not down there. That's pretty much the norm here, but more & more guys are starting to want more. A lot of them are now expecting full service, digits or daty, sigh, since escorts are about the same price or even cheaper here.

    If a client wouldn't respect your boundaries, I wouldn't bother with him. That's not the type of client you would want as a regular. We cannot please everybody and there will always be other clients, who will be happy with what you have to offer, within your limits.

    The worst that could happen with clients who won't take no for an answer is that they probably won't come back for another visit. That's probably not a big lost anyway, he would still have to pay you the same price for the session and if he was really grabby or not behaving accordingly, don't be afraid to charge him a higher fee.

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    Can you word your ad to be any more clear about what you do and don't do? I've never seen you ad, but I know some girls will put vague things like "I love to have fun and really interact with you!" and guys might read that and think, wow she sounds like a really open girl, I'll book her. Whereas other girls say things like "Touching me is unacceptable and will lead to instant termination of the appointment without refund". And maybe some guys read it and don't book because they think the girl sounds like a hard-ass, but those are the same loser guys that push boundaries.


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    yeah my ad is very specific, I specifically say no upgrades, and this is not an escort service. I believe that a lot of guys do not read the ad, or they just don't take it seriously. (my pictures are very modest as well) I try to assertive as well, and I really do not mind if they touch my breast but if they get aggressive, I have to tell them to stop. Also if I'm going to charge more, then I would make them get up right away and pay me the extra, cause I know guys will say just about anything and not expect to follow threw. Do you ladies get the extra at the end of the session, or how does that work?

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    ^ no pay no play - I always get my money first - always -- yea guys read / see what they want to see - lol

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    I get the extra at the beginning. Don't wait until the end a lot of guys will say they have this much and that much and then cry broke at the end. I learned this lesson the hard way when I first started. Just like you take your donation at the beginning take the extra at the beginning as well.

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    Default Re: body rub girls am I not offering enough?

    After I say no and they try again, I give them a warning. If they still don't stop I tell them how much extra they will be charged. If they are really annoying, it's up to you to end the session earlier than planned. I usually collect the money at the end & haven't had any issue...

    I just want to add that I'm not indy, I work at an erotic massage parlour, we have a receptionnist, ect. I'm not all alone dealing with a customer who wouldn't want to pay so it may be a bit different...

    I just find it weird, if I had to tell the customer to get up, pay me the extra money that I fine him, then telling him to go back laying down on the table to continue the massage...lol. At the end of the session I just quote them the new price and if any questions asked, you warned them.

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    Yes I'd get the extra $$ before the extra activities, and don't fall for that "but it will kill the mood" crap. I used to try to be nice and wait til the end but I have had one too many guys mysteriously not have the correct donation.

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    Default Re: body rub girls am I not offering enough?

    hi I have a Q if a guy initiates the touching can he be an undercover?

    thanks

    I did an Interview today w a licenced massage therapist who has girls (2) on body rub side of his spa
    he told me no way he initiates the touching if he's a cop

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    Yes I agree, I always get the money ahead of time. A couple times in the beginning I think I forgot, and when I had to ask again, I was a little offended.
    and now I even have to hide it after I get it, cause one guy picked the money back up off the donation table when he walked out the door. I was so fucking pissed.
    I've had people try to rip me off, many, many times so I would never trust ohh I will take care of you in the end. No fucking way.
    But it doesn't matter anyway I just don't want to be touched. I don't mind being touched lightly, but no I do not want my tits sucked on, i absolutely hate that, in fact I won't
    even let my b/f do it, I don't want my nipples fondled aggressively, and If I have to tell you more than once to keep your hands out of my pussy. I get aggravated I'm sorry,
    but just because your paying me doesn't mean you get to do whatever your want for an hr. Damn 140 isn't that much money anyway.

    Oh and I'm not really worried they wont come back I will block them anyway. Its those fuckers that go online, and defame you
    and write terrible reviews. Thats what I'm really concerned about, and but how am I supposed to be nice to an asshole? You know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristalla View Post
    hi I have a Q if a guy initiates the touching can he be an undercover?

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    I did an Interview today w a licenced massage therapist who has girls (2) on body rub side of his spa
    he told me no way he initiates the touching if he's a cop
    They can absolutely initiate it and still be a cop. There have been cases where cops have had full sex with escorts and then busted them for escorting.


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    I used to do BR out of my college home years back, I also sold panties in person, and did a few "car rubs" but never any intercourse. Man was I stupid back then. Anyway, cops can bust you after the session, thankfully I got out ahead of time. Once, and this is I'm guessing an extremely rare occasion I had a cop who was off duty require my services. I drove around with him and we talked. I was living in a respected and gated community. He told me I should be extremely careful, that I was too pretty and too young to be in "the business" and he was too "scared" to actually go through with it but just wanted to talk. So, I drove around in a cop's car that day for about 30 minutes and he sent me hope with $200 for my time. Scared the shit out of me and I never did it again. He showed me his badge, etc was a white, older guy.

    So, if I ever got back into BR, I'd charge about $350 per hour and offer as much as I could and go up from there. OP, did you state how much you're offering and for what price?




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    Yes you must be on your toes at all times. Cops will look for and find any reason to bust you.

    And do not buy into that bullshit about “oh they have to tell you if they are a cop”, “oh they can’t touch you”, or “oh they cannot fully undress” because they can do that and so much more.

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