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    I've been considering all this for a while , this articles' one of the more informative ones that I have found. Are we really in danger using manufactured ones?Should I be ordering me some raspberry seed oil?

    http://www.naturalnews.com/041091_su...vitamin_A.html
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    Default Re: Sunscreens/sunblocks-is it better to go natural

    I really think you need more than that..& it's great to consume healthily..but damn the sun's strong even more so now with the breaking down of the atmosphere due to pollution etc.
    There's natural mineral sunscreens out there. I myself am too fair to go out without sun protection, not to mention skin cancer runs in my family.
    Right now I'm using Neutrogena Beach Defense spf 70 for face, & a glide on stick spf 50 for body.
    Also, I"m in USA, which I think Euro usually has better products? The FDA (food & drug) doesn't always get it right.


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    Default Re: Sunscreens/sunblocks-is it better to go natural

    Hm maybe they do I don't know to be honest!
    I have heard you can make your own from zinc oxide, I have some of that. I've tried loads of different types to be honest, but how can you tell if they're working?!I re-apply, I guess I just go generally for the ones that don't seem to soak off within the first hour of wearing them, even the ones that seem to not rub in properly and give me a white face lol. I'm so scared of wrinkles/skin cancer. Am naturally very pale too.
    I have also heard that anything over SPF 30 isn't worth it, only providing a tiny fraction more than 30. Not sure if it's true, though.
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    I read somewhere that some suncreens and sunblocks can cause cancer because of certain chemicals in em...something about how they react to the sun.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/dr-mike...b_3280578.html

    http://www.skincancer.org/skin-cance...n-cause-cancer

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    I did a bunch of research on sunscreen last year (maybe when I have more time I'll come back and post it) and yes, some of the common ingredients are sketch.
    I am very pale. My skin physically will not tan. I get my complexion from my Dad, who has had skin cancer himself. For me, I take my risk with the traditional sunscreen.

    And yes, once you get past SPF 15, the benefits increase only by a small margin. But it depends on the individual. Being so fair, my dermatologist recommends I wear at least SPF 30-50.

    When it comes to these oils, you have to ask a couple questions. One, is it broad spectrum? A quick google search on raspberry oil yielded conflicting results, and I wouldn't be quick to trust that it does. Also, how long does it last? Do you need to reapply often? And how much do you need to apply to get the protection? Traditional sunscreen should be applied at least a half our before sun exposure, is that the same for these oils? Less time? More time?

    Anyway, if you decide to look into it more, those are the kinds of things I would try to find answers to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 View Post
    I've been considering all this for a while , this articles' one of the more informative ones that I have found. Are we really in danger using manufactured ones?Should I be ordering me some raspberry seed oil?
    I would rather use NO sunblock than use sunblock with tons of non-natural ingredients. Unless I am going to be in the sun for a long time and cannot avoid it, in which case, I will take that over having burned & blistered skin. But at the same time, I'm fair skinned as fuck and I want to keep it that way. So I try to stay out of the sun. I don't tan anyway, I just burn and get freckles.

    I prefer natural sunblock or nothing at all. There are natural ones out there.

    The 21 Most Affordable Natural Sunscreens: Check the ingredient list though because who knows if they are really natural or not.


    To find out what SPF number you need: Minutes to burn without sunscreen x SPF number = maximum sun exposure time. The higher the SPF, the less you will need to reapply it.

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    Thanks everyone, going to get my researcher head on. I try to stay out of the sun (well it isn't as if we get much here in the UK anyway!) But I wear factor 30 every day anyway. I'm ultra pale, only been abroad once in the last ten years, never been on a sunbed (self-tan or spray tan for work ).
    Thanks Blacksheep and Glamour-I'm having a look through those links now
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    I wear sunscreen religiously for 12 years whether I go outside or not and I can tell you it's the best anti aging thing you can do for your skin. I look 15-20 years younger than my age. I use nevoa which if you go on that website( forget the name) but it tells you how dangerous your sunscreen/ sunblock is, it gets a low rating for being dangerous. It's 55 dollars but I think well worth it since it's definitely the best anti aging thing you can do for your skin!

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    ^ They also just reformulated it to make it safer and honestly I like the old formula better. It has zinc oxide now and I'm not a fan of zinc based sunscreens/ sunblocks.

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    i am also concerned about the chemicals in sunscreen..although i wear it every...single..day..religiously. i now use burt's bees all natural/chemical free sunscreen.i check the ingredients really well and didn't find anything bad in it. i also wear hats every day and protective clothing. you should most definitely wear sunscreen but just choose a natural semi-chemical free one

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    Search Re: Sunscreens/sunblocks-is it better to go natural

    The most natural sunscreen is shade.

    Look, I'm not advocating total sun-abstinence... we need sunlight to make vitamin D... the sun helps balance our internal clock.... the sun improves our mood... etc. BUT! (there is always a but!) the fact remains that exposure to UV light/sunlight is a major cause of gnarly diseases.

    Many of my Russian acquaintances and family friends go on and on about how skin cancer never existed in Russia. Now, keep in mind, many Russians are unabashed sun worshipers. They say that their parents, relatives, friends, and grandparents tanned their whole lives, sans sunscreen. They say that a sunburn (the first few times laying out) is completely normal. People worked in the fields, day in and day out, and never died of skin cancer. No one died from melanoma or other associated ailments in Russia. Melanoma was unheard of! Sunscreen is unnecessary. Sunscreen is unnatural. Sunscreen causes cancer... not the sun!

    I feel inclined to point out that much of Russia is located in latitudes further away from the equator than NYC. I also mention the depletion/degradation of our ozone layer... something that may have been less relevant when their parents and grandparents were sunbathing in more northern latitudes (the hole in the ozone layer is located over Antarctica, a.k.a. south). Things are different and there are SEVERAL other variables in play... including diet, exposure to chemicals in the environment, and the list goes on and on and on.

    Beyond that, there is no doubt that sun exposure leads to superficial consequences like premature aging, wrinkles, sun spots, and sun damage in the skin. Those are just aesthetic issues... but since we are on StripperWeb, I think we can agree that those effects are pertinent.

    So, onto sunblock... sunblock does contain a plethora of substances which can be considered questionable. It is important to consider the concentration of the chemicals involved. It's also important to note that an excess of anything is often deleterious. That being said, moderate use has been proven to be more beneficial than harmful.

    If anyone is worried about the dangerous effects of UV rays and are interested in protecting their skin naturally... my suggestion is to avoid sun-beds in tanning salons, limit sun exposure, limit sun exposure between the hours of 10am and 4pm, keep skin covered during those hours (long sleeves, long skirts, etc.), wear a wide brimmed hat in order to protect the face, stay in the shade, under an umbrella, or indoors during peak hours (10am-4pm, as previously mentioned), and avoid sun exposure near bodies of water which may reflect and amplify the suns rays.

    That is solid advice... however, that kinda ruins most summertime activities. So an SPF 30-45 sunblock applied to exposed skin before prolonged sun exposure (and reapplied every 2-4 hours) strikes me as a far simpler solution. Unless you're located in a perpetually sunny, warm locale, you won't be using any abundant amount of sunblock often for 75% of the year!

    Rinse the sunblock off once you're done sunning. Then MOISTURIZE!

    Stay safe ladies... and be well.
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    ^Good advice, I stay the hell out of the sun as much as possible.
    Occasionally in the mid to late afternoon I will bask in it for 5-10 minutes for my vitamin D fix.

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    i just got the cerave day moisturizer with spf 30 ( had the least amount of dangerous chemicals i could find at the store) but it says " does not prevent skin aging or skin cancer". ookkk? if it doesn't why the hell would i buy it? isn't a sunscreen to prevent that? or were they just saying that to cover their asses in some weird way?

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    ^ Is it broad spectrum?
    (if it is it will say)
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    ^no it says it only prevents sunburn..but its spf 30. what does that mean? god im so pissed! i couldn't find any suncreen other than that , that didn't have all these horrible benzos and parabens in it! its a moisturizer though

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    There are three kinds of UV rays. UVA, UVB, and UVC. UVC is absorbed by the Earth's atmosphere and doesn't reach us, so you don't need to worry about it.
    UVB are the rays that cause sunburn. UVA are the rays that cause aging. Both can cause skin cancer.
    The SPF of a product refers to it's ability to protect against UVB rays only. Only products that say broad spectrum protect against both UVB rays and UVA rays.

    While the intensity of UVB rays varies from the time of day/year, UVA rays stay constant during daylight hours and year round. UVA rays can also penetrate clouds and glass (UVB does too, but not nearly as well). So just because it's cloudy out doesn't mean you are safe from sun damage.

    Tanning beds emit more UVA than UVB rays, and at a much higher doses than regular sun exposure (I read as much as 12x more). So tanning beds are actually worse for you.

    Also, skin damage is cumulative. I wear sunscreen everyday, even if I barely go outside, because all those brief exposures add up. I am also extra careful, though, because I am so fair.


    Like I said, I tried a while back to find a sunscreen free of nasty ingredients. They are out there, but each one I tried was way too thick and heavy. If I'm working outdoors or at the beach, yeah OK. But for everyday wear? It was just too much. Maybe I should try again, though. This was a year or two ago, so maybe there's better products out there now.

    I've heard good thing about Badger's sunscreen.... http://www.badgerbalm.com/p-372-all-...der-cream.aspx

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    ^ ok thanks!! yeah i burn and freckle as well. i wear sunscreen absolutely every day, dosen't matter if its' raining or not..as well as a hate with a wide rim. guess im going to return that sunscreen then this makes me very sad and frustrated!
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    I buy sunscreen along with almost all my personal care products from health stores. Stuff works and is full of natural moisturizers. I wanna try the recipe to make your own from zinc oxide next. I use it on my face, chest, shoulders, and hands and more if its a long day outside. But I'm def more pro sun than popular opinion and I even use tanning beds in the winter. I have family ranging from sun avoidance to outside all day and have all aged differently, diet and exercise seem to be more influential. Maybe try the natural stuff just for a few hours and see if you start to burn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierra. View Post
    There are three kinds of UV rays. UVA, UVB, and UVC. UVC is absorbed by the Earth's atmosphere and doesn't reach us, so you don't need to worry about it.
    UVB are the rays that cause sunburn. UVA are the rays that cause aging. Both can cause skin cancer.
    The SPF of a product refers to it's ability to protect against UVB rays only. Only products that say broad spectrum protect against both UVB rays and UVA rays.


    While the intensity of UVB rays varies from the time of day/year, UVA rays stay constant during daylight hours and year round. UVA rays can also penetrate clouds and glass (UVB does too, but not nearly as well). So just because it's cloudy out doesn't mean you are safe from sun damage.

    Tanning beds emit more UVA than UVB rays, and at a much higher doses than regular sun exposure (I read as much as 12x more). So tanning beds are actually worse for you.

    Also, skin damage is cumulative. I wear sunscreen everyday, even if I barely go outside, because all those brief exposures add up. I am also extra careful, though, because I am so fair.


    Like I said, I tried a while back to find a sunscreen free of nasty ingredients. They are out there, but each one I tried was way too thick and heavy. If I'm working outdoors or at the beach, yeah OK. But for everyday wear? It was just too much. Maybe I should try again, though. This was a year or two ago, so maybe there's better products out there now.

    I've heard good thing about Badger's sunscreen.... http://www.badgerbalm.com/p-372-all-...der-cream.aspx
    what if it doesn't say broad spectrum but says "UVA/UVB protection". pretty much the same thing right? im gonna look that up lol

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    ^ Yeah, I'm like 99.9% sure that's the same thing. I'd check to be sure, though. Labels can be confusing.

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    ^ i also learned that you basically can't have broad spectrum sunscreen without benzenes in it..which are carcinogens. guess we all die someday! i prefer to die beautiful with my skin nice

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    I was taught (back in the Clinique & Chanel days) that there are 2 kinds of sunscreens. Surface ones (titanium dioxide) and chemical ones (which penetrate all the way down, deep into your skin). Both have their pros and cons. Many say that titanium dioxide is a big carcinogen. And many also say that the chemicals in the chemical sunscreen are mostly carcinogens, and easily absorbed directly into the bloodstream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    I was taught (back in the Clinique & Chanel days) that there are 2 kinds of sunscreens. Surface ones (titanium dioxide) and chemical ones (which penetrate all the way down, deep into your skin). Both have their pros and cons. Many say that titanium dioxide is a big carcinogen. And many also say that the chemicals in the chemical sunscreen are mostly carcinogens, and easily absorbed directly into the bloodstream.
    Also, I found THIS: which explains it well:

    "There are 17 individual sunscreen ingredients that are FDA approved: 15 of these are clear chemicals that absorb UV light and two are made of minerals that reflect UV light. Of these 15, nine are known endocrine disruptors. To be effective, chemical sunscreens need to be rubbed into their skin 20 minutes before sun exposure. They do a pretty good job at blocking UV light, but they actually get used up as the sun shines on them. In fact, some sunscreens lose as much as 90% of their effectiveness in just an hour, so they need to be reapplied often. This is not the case with zinc oxide and titanium dioxide, the two mineral, or physical, sunscreens. These two work very differently – they sit on the surface of the skin and physically block UV light.

    Chemical sunscreens don’t sit on the surface of the skin – they soak into it and quickly find their way into the bloodstream. They scatter all over the body without being detoxified by the liver and can be detected in blood, urine, and breast milk for up to two days after a single application. That would be just fine if they were uniformly safe – but they’re not.

    As I mentioned, nine of the 15 chemical sunscreens are considered endocrine disruptors. Those are chemicals that interfere with the normal function of hormones. The hormones most commonly disturbed are estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and thyroid. Endocrine disruptors, like some ingredients in chemical sunscreens, can cause abnormal development of fetuses and growing children. They cause early puberty and premature breast development in girls, and small and undescended testicles in boys. They cause low sperm counts and infertility. Endocrine disruptors that act like estrogen can contribute to the development of breast and ovarian cancers in women, and other endocrine disruptors may increase the chance of prostate cancer in men.

    Sounds pretty unsettling, doesn’t it? But there’s more. As I said earlier, chemical sunscreens function by absorbing UV light. In the process, some may get used up and mutate. Some generate DNA-damaging chemicals called “free radicals.” These may lead to cancers.
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    what's a common "chemical sunscreen"?? i've only seen ones with titanium dioxide/zinc . i looked up titanium dioxide being a carcinogen and it says rats got respiratory cancer when inhaling large amount of powder..so it isn't toxic if just on the top of your skin? inhaling any kind of powder is bad for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    what's a common "chemical sunscreen"?? i've only seen ones with titanium dioxide/zinc . i looked up titanium dioxide being a carcinogen and it says rats got respiratory cancer when inhaling large amount of powder..so it isn't toxic if just on the top of your skin? inhaling any kind of powder is bad for you
    Most sunscreens are chemical sunscreens. The ones in cosmetics are usually surface sunscreens though, and also the ones that say titanium dioxide is the active ingredient are also surface sunscreens of course. Surface sunscreens are newer to the market than chemical sunscreens.

    Titanium dioxide still absorbs into the skin, and its been cited as highly toxic. The only difference is, it like reflects sun off the skin I think, whereas chemical sunscreens absorb and process the rays.

    Both are bad IMO, but in different ways. I prefer natural sunscreens (link above), but they are chemical sunscreens I believe, which is still not good. I try to avoid the sun altogether.

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