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    Default Two unrelated concerns: implants and numb toes

    1: I got 450 and 500cc implants under the muscle in March; they were a big change from my barely b cups. I really want to learn pole, but even pulling myself up on the horizontal bar on stage was a bit painful. I'm sure this has been discussed somewhere, but a search didn't pull anything relevant up, so: for those of you with larger implants, do I just need to build up my muscles more, or is pole work that relies on chest muscle always going to be particularly difficult for me given the size and placement of my implants?

    2: The three middle toes on my right foot have gone mostly numb since I went back to work a few weeks ago. At the end of a shift, they're completely without sensation. If I take time off, they go up to pins and needles, but that's it. I wear open-toed shoes--about five-inch open-toed Ellie platforms. I recently acquired $4k of medical debt in one night, so going to a doctor isn't an option this month. Any suggestions on the cause or possible solutions?

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    Default Re: Two unrelated concerns: implants and numb toes

    On the toe problem...

    I've had my feet go numb purely from anxiety in the club before. But it sounds like that isn't it, since it's just the three toes. I'd guess that something you're doing is pinching an artery/vein in a way that blood isn't going to those three toes as it should. Are you sitting down for long periods? Could it be from how you stand (do you rock a hip to the side when you stand?)? Just trying to think of any repetitive positioning that would cause numbness...

    Alternatively, it may be the arch in the heel you're wearing that's doing it to you. Arches can cut off circulation.

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    Default Re: Two unrelated concerns: implants and numb toes

    ^I actually do have really bad anxiety and was considering the medication you recommended in another thread--propranolol, I think? My main issue with anxiety though is that it nauseates me pretty regularly. In more major situations, I have had chest pain and difficulty breathing. I haven't fully read up on the medication yet though, so I'm not sure if I'm suited to it. Is it a daily thing, or just when you expect symptoms?

    I do try to sit a lot at work because my knees suck. I have had neuropathy besides this numbness, but a neurologist suggested it's related to lupus. Since the numbness is continuing days after I work with no other symptoms, would circulation still be a likely culprit? I read that pinched nerves are also a common cause, but I'm not sure if that would point to the shoes or what...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuesdaymarie View Post
    ^I actually do have really bad anxiety and was considering the medication you recommended in another thread--propranolol, I think? My main issue with anxiety though is that it nauseates me pretty regularly. In more major situations, I have had chest pain and difficulty breathing. I haven't fully read up on the medication yet though, so I'm not sure if I'm suited to it. Is it a daily thing, or just when you expect symptoms?

    I do try to sit a lot at work because my knees suck. I have had neuropathy besides this numbness, but a neurologist suggested it's related to lupus. Since the numbness is continuing days after I work with no other symptoms, would circulation still be a likely culprit? I read that pinched nerves are also a common cause, but I'm not sure if that would point to the shoes or what...
    Yeah, the numbness continuing days afterwards doesn't make much sense to me. If it were a sitting issue, then the problem wouldn't resolve itself after work. It may be an arch problem (when you sit at work and aren't doing anything, can you take your foot out of the shoe and massage your arch? I'm not sure. With your other medical concerns, it's hard to say whether or not this is related or completely unrelated...

    About Propranolol. You take it 30 minutes before whatever it is that will cause your anxiety. And no, you don't take it every day. It's completely non-addictive. It's not like a benzo where it feels like a warm, fuzzy blanket is being placed over your anxious feelings. It's more a feeling of being cut off from the normal responses you'd have to anxiety (hence the non-addictive thing). The shaky hands, racing heart, sweaty palms, and splotchy anxiety rashes won't appear (or, if you normally have extreme anxiety symptoms, then they will be far less than what they usually are). However, it will lower your circulation a bit - adrenaline from anxiety increases circulation, so this drug will try to decrease circulation to control your anxious responses. It's a beta blocker. If you're already having numbness issues, you'd probably have increased numbness with Propranolol.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propranolol

    I believe it can be bought on AllDayChemist - you may want to give that a try since you mentioned needing to catch up on some medical bills. However, if you have insurance and buy it in the U.S., it's an incredibly cheap drug (since it's such an old drug). Hell, even if you don't have insurance, I'd recommend seeing if you can get your doctor to prescribe it to you. It's like $3 for 30 pills with insurance...I can't imagine it's a ton more without. Or at least talk to your doctor to see if it might be a good option.

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    Default Re: Two unrelated concerns: implants and numb toes

    I never got my pole work up to how it was pre-boobs and I also got large implants under the muscle 425cc although shortly after I got them, I switched to a non-pole club. Using those muscles always causes me discomfort, though.

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    ^Drats I've always wanted to learn pole, even before I danced. Maybe I can still do some easy spins or something to make myself feel better...

    The girls at my new club are starting to get a little pissy because many of them are very acrobatic and skilled, but I'm one of the few with larger breasts, real or fake, and it's contributing to me getting better stage tips than them, despite not being a particularly skilled stage dancer. I had a few remarks about the situation Thursday, so I had a master plan to become both big-boobed and pole-savvy. Alas...

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    Default Re: Two unrelated concerns: implants and numb toes

    I've always been scared that overexerting those muscles can mess them up..

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    Default Re: Two unrelated concerns: implants and numb toes

    having chest muscle cut and stretched over implants almost always results in reduced upper body strength / muscle pain. This is why I went back to over the muscle implants after trying under the muscle placement once. And yes for implants which only have the 'top half' covered by pectoral muscle there is a risk that repeated high muscle pressure on just the top portion of the implants can push the implants downward and/or outward.

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    Even with switching to over the muscles, wouldn't the damage already done by your previous set still make it very painful?

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    Default Re: Two unrelated concerns: implants and numb toes

    two of my fingers used to go completely numb and turn white a few years back..and i mean WHITE, with a greenish/bluish tint to them. scared the shit out of me! i always figured it was my circulation, did some massages on them,..it was weird! it went away though, do you have poor circulation , do you get cold easily?

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    Default Re: Two unrelated concerns: implants and numb toes

    ^Yes, I'm usually freezing, especially my extremities, and I do have Raynaud's syndrome (sounds like you might as well), but it seems like if circulation were the issue here, things would either improve after I'm off work or get drastically worse. As it is, the coloring and temperature of my numb toes are normal, and I can move them just fine. I just can't feel them at all. It's a bit unsettling. There are some really old threads that discuss the issue on here, but everyone pretty much said that if it lasts past a few hours then to get to a doctor. None of the OPs ever updated either :/ Think I might try a new pair of shoes and some yoga poses that are good for the spine or something.

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    Default Re: Two unrelated concerns: implants and numb toes

    Even with switching to over the muscles, wouldn't the damage already done by your previous set still make it very painful?
    For a little while post-op it continued to be painful. However, after a couple of months, the 'damage' to my pec muscles apparently healed such that there wasn't any pain at all.

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    Default Re: Two unrelated concerns: implants and numb toes

    maybe you have a pinched nerve

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