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    Default Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    This was posted in the customer off-limits section of the forum. From my perspective I can say that I have spent more money in the dives than in the "upscale" clubs. I will also counter that on average I have found dancers I'm more attracted to in dives than in "upscale' clubs. So maybe the reason the men are in dives is because they find the dances working there to their liking more than they do the "upscale" clubs.

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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    So you go to the clubs dressed up in your suit? I don't know how many times I have left a club with make up smudged on my clothes, or perfume on them. Just curious, why do you go all dressed up in your expensive suit to potentially have it abused by makeup and perfume?
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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    Guys that go to dives in a suit, to me, are hoping the girls swarm them and their intention is to put up a facade of having money and wanting to spend it even if they don't hence, more attention from the dancers who aren't used to 'suits' in their blue-collar club. So yeah, for me, they are a joke usually.

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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    I personally don't think there's anything 'wrong' with a guy going to a dive dressed in a suit as long as he's spending money. I mean, sure, if he goes there in a suit and doesn't spend shit that'd be a joke. But if he's spending money, who cares if he's dressed nice? My opinion might be a little bias because I appreciate a man in a suit.
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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    ill give it a go with a man in a suit, but im suspicious..they have been ( well, a lot of the time) cheap-asses who come in trying to look flashy when they dont' have a dime, and are major time-waters..although i appreciate clean, well-dressed men, im cautious

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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    I've seen a lot of guys on review boards write that they wear suits to get "VIP" attention in clubs where it's not the norm, so I'm a little wary of those guys trying to hustle me, but I don't think they're automatically "jokes." I'll usually ask anyone who looks dressed up where they've been since it's a conversation point anyway, and a lot of them say they're stopping in from work or something along those lines, which makes sense and is fine. I will approach a guy in a suit, but I won't approach a guy in sweatpants, so you're not among the pariahs in my book.

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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    How did this thread get hijacked to be about guys who go into strip clubs wearing suits?

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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    ^^^^ The point of the thread you asked abt in your OP was abt other dancers' exp w/ businessmen, dressed like businessmen, i.e. In suits, going to dives & mostly not spending. That poster was specifically talking abt the kind of guys that go to blue-collar clubs in white-collar attire, w/ the intent of appearing to be highrollers in order to attract maximum dancer attention but not spending anything on the dancers attending them.

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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    why do you prefer dancers in dives? because theyre more desperate? uglier? cost less?

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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    Quote Originally Posted by joyluckstripclub View Post
    How did this thread get hijacked to be about guys who go into strip clubs wearing suits?
    Because you made this thread based on a dancer's thread about guys who dress as "businessmen," namely in suits..? But since these responses apparently make no sense to you...

    The difference between your thread and the dancer's similar one is that you're talking about businessmen and the ladies were talking about "businessmen." "Businessmen" come into dives trying to look like high rollers in order to get more attention than guys in more moderate attire. Those guys generally suck. Businessmen are just businessmen in for a show either because the location is convenient or they like the club, and no we don't think you're jokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joyluckstripclub View Post
    How did this thread get hijacked to be about guys who go into strip clubs wearing suits?
    LOL, with the title you gave it there was nowhere else it could possibly go. There may be various other definitions of what constitutes a "Business Man" in other contexts but in the world of strip clubs and dancer-oriented internet sites a "Business Man" is a guy in a suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlotte. View Post
    why do you prefer dancers in dives? because theyre more desperate? uglier? cost less?
    You didn't ask me, but I go through phases where my favorite club is a dive rather than a high-end. It's for many reasons. To unfairly generalize a bit, sometimes I just don't feel like being followed around by guys in tuxes, including a guy in the bathroom who expects a tip for handing me a washcloth. Sometimes I don't feel like navigating the higher-end hustle. While the women at my favorite dive are, compared as an entire shift, not as attractive as women at my favorite high-end club, it's also the case that there are attractive-to-beautiful women in most dives (many times, beautiful women in high-end bars tell me they started off in some dive, and there's always a stream of beautiful women who start off at dives) ... and as we know, regardless of what the rest of the shift looks like, I only need one great stripper to make my night. Right now, IMO the sexiest stripper in the my city (at least of the clubs I've been to) works at a dive ... I'm not sure why she stays, maybe a bit of big-fish-in-small-pond, and I know the dive gives her much much more schedule control which is important to other. And yes, chances are she'll sit with me for longer, for less money, which I won't complain about

    Right now, my favorite club by far is a high-end, but 2 years ago, it was a dive. Two years from now, who knows?

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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    I live in a region where the clubs are primarily mid-level. There are a few dives and a few clubs that try to be up-scale but, for the most part, it falls right in the middle. In my area girls move a round a lot. I have one fave who has danced in every club in Providence from dive to mid-level to faux GC over the past 11 or 12 years. She has alternately made good money and bad money in all of them moving from club to club chasing the money and avoiding having to give hand jobs to make a living. Another Fave has danced in western Mass, RI and CT over the past many years. Both of these gals tell similar stories in regards to men in suits that also line-up with my observations as a customer for many years.

    The bottom line is that a suit just doesn't mean what it used to mean when you see a guy wearing one in a strip club-no matter what kind of club it is. A "businessman" is just another guy in the club until he starts spending money and there is no guarantee that he will. My faves approach these guys as they would approach any guy in the club. They make a pitch and the guy either spends or he doesn't. If anything they are LESS likely to waste time with a guy who may just be killing time between appointments sipping a drink and watching the girls without any intention of spending real money. My hunch is that any guy who thinks that "slumming" in a low end club is going to get him extra attention without spending money has never read anything on Stripper web.
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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    the thread this OP is asking about is about how guys who are not businessmen and who don't have money to spend will go to lower tier clubs acting like they have money. I've worked only at mid-tier clubs and I find this is still true, if I see guys in a jacket (especially young looking guys) I will not approach unless I've already talked to everyone else or it's dead. These types go really out of their way to seem like hot shit and usually the rudest. I don't think real businessmen who go to dives are a joke at all, I do think they spend all day in a suit (I'm sure much more than 40 hours/week) and when they are going to a strip club for a fun they want to be more casual.

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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    so many guys pretend to be something theyre not. It's so easy to pick them apart! We see right through you. Yes dress nice but we know when youre a plumber pretending to be a stock broker or lawyer.

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    Default Re: Dancers, are business men who frequent dives a joke?

    As a traveling businessman who visits primarily mid-tier clubs, I will say that, IME, appearances matter. Now are most dancers likely to do more for less because a guy is suited up? Of course not. What it does do is ensure that I do not lack for prospects, many of which assume that I must have money to spend and behave accordingly.

    Now I have seen this type of thread on SW before, with multiple dancers chiming in about suited guys vs. the jeans and t-shirt crowd and how they actually find the latter to be better customers. I guess this is just one of those instances where my experiences in the clubs differ from those of other SW members. I've even gone so far as to test this theory by varying up apparel and visiting the same road clubs multiple times in a week. In many instances, the differences in experiences were dramatic.

    Now I do believe that suiting up just for a club visit is just plain goofy. I also believe that dancers can pick up on guys who are trying too hard. But IMHO legitimate businessmen who look the part tend to garner more attention in clubs than guys rolling in wearing street clothes. I have seen (first hand and through ample observations) this play out far too often to believe otherwise.

    Anyway, just my fwiw.
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    ...only when they don't spend
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