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    Im looking for some insight as to where there might be some good sites to sign up for as a Canadian camgirl? I would be streaming from the U.S as of right now but obviously do not have a SSN (we have SINs cuz were special ) So, which sites ask for SINs and not SSN? Or do not ask for SSN from a Canadian at all?

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    Pretty much any of the big sites (Streamate, MFC, Adultwork) accept Canadian camgirls. They generally don't ask us for our SIN because we are responsible for reporting our own taxes to Canada.

    That being said, if you are streaming from the States and living in the States it is going to be really tricky for you when it comes to taxes because technically you are supposed to pay taxes to the United States, I think. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable then me will report in on this.

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    I tried just using my Canadian address and bank account info for MFC, still haven't heard anything on my application from them yet but if that gets me in then yes i would pay taxes here to the u.s. I'm having problems (conscientiously: if that's a word! LOL) of the legality of this, though. Would MFC know i am streaming from the U.S? I suppose once i was to get paid and have an income to report i THEN can get a tax id number to file with.

    It is a catch 22 really, I need a SSN or a TID (tax id number) to sign up with sites like MFC but to get a tax ID number i need to file a tax return, cant file a tax return with no income to report LOL :/ Confusing!! For anyone questioning where Im coming from, I married a U.S citizen recently and am trying to work up the funds for my legal documentation here while at my best trying to do things the "right" way.

    Any input is greatly appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by autumn_rose View Post
    I tried just using my Canadian address and bank account info for MFC, still haven't heard anything on my application from them yet but if that gets me in then yes i would pay taxes here to the u.s. I'm having problems (conscientiously: if that's a word! LOL) of the legality of this, though. Would MFC know i am streaming from the U.S? I suppose once i was to get paid and have an income to report i THEN can get a tax id number to file with.

    It is a catch 22 really, I need a SSN or a TID (tax id number) to sign up with sites like MFC but to get a tax ID number i need to file a tax return, cant file a tax return with no income to report LOL :/ Confusing!! For anyone questioning where Im coming from, I married a U.S citizen recently and am trying to work up the funds for my legal documentation here while at my best trying to do things the "right" way.

    Any input is greatly appreciated
    I work on MFC and they accepted my Canadian address. That much I can tell you for sure.

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    That's a bit reassuring! Im sure i could be accepted with a canadian address but im afraid i slipped up! lol i initially did an app with my u.s bank account/addy but had them cancel it considering i didnt have a SSN and didnt want to run the risk of using my SIN inplace of SSN (and using a u.s citizens number!!) So i redid a new app with a different email address/canadian bank account - we will see! fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autumn_rose View Post
    That's a bit reassuring! Im sure i could be accepted with a canadian address but im afraid i slipped up! lol i initially did an app with my u.s bank account/addy but had them cancel it considering i didnt have a SSN and didnt want to run the risk of using my SIN inplace of SSN (and using a u.s citizens number!!) So i redid a new app with a different email address/canadian bank account - we will see! fingers crossed.
    As a side note I get paid on MFC through Payoneer so it doesn't matter what country my bank account is. Not sure if that is
    helpful to you....but I figured I'd mention it.

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    Like Just said, pretty much any site will accept you with a SIN, as a Canadian. I have accounts with Streamate, MFC, AW, C4S, LJ....although MFC and SM are pretty much the only ones that I work on.

    Signing up as a Canadian isn't an issue.

    However, a big potential issue could be working in the US - you would really have to talk to a lawyer about the legality of it - it's not as simple as just paying taxes in the US - if you do not have a visa that allows you to work, you could get in serious trouble.
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    Is it really considered work, though as i wouldnt technically be an employee? Ive done a bit of research on independent contractors and being self-employed in the u.s. I am not 100% positive but i believe it is different than being an "employee". Plenty of immigrants here, undocumented who work as independent contractors with construction sites or lawn care LoL

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    if you registered a Canadian address with the webcam host, if your webcam earnings are being directed to a Canadian bank account, and if you are technically 'visiting' the USA but still officially residing in Canada, you shouldn't have any US tax issues. However, if you are officially residing in the US on a 'green card', that's a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autumn_rose View Post
    Is it really considered work, though as i wouldnt technically be an employee? Ive done a bit of research on independent contractors and being self-employed in the u.s. I am not 100% positive but i believe it is different than being an "employee". Plenty of immigrants here, undocumented who work as independent contractors with construction sites or lawn care LoL
    No, you are not an employee of a camsite - you are self-employed (usually). However, that doesn't mean that you don't need a visa to be able to work while resident in the US.

    And...um....yes, there are lots of illegal workers in the US. You aren't likely to find many people on this forum who encourage you to work illegally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by autumn_rose View Post
    Is it really considered work, though as i wouldnt technically be an employee? Ive done a bit of research on independent contractors and being self-employed in the u.s. I am not 100% positive but i believe it is different than being an "employee". Plenty of immigrants here, undocumented who work as independent contractors with construction sites or lawn care LoL
    Omg, you are too cute.
    You can sign up for any site, they ask your country when you sign up, if you put Canada you wont have to worry about SSN. It doesnt matter where you stream, plenty of girls go on vacation and work.

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    Haha thanks ladies for all the posts - im on streamate atm but now i cant figure out how to work this. ROFL so new.. and i suppose thats a whole new thread right? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by autumn_rose View Post
    Is it really considered work, though as i wouldnt technically be an employee? Ive done a bit of research on independent contractors and being self-employed in the u.s. I am not 100% positive but i believe it is different than being an "employee". Plenty of immigrants here, undocumented who work as independent contractors with construction sites or lawn care LoL
    You are either considered self-employed or a contractor depending on what accountant you ask.

    Definitely not an employee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autumn_rose View Post
    Haha thanks ladies for all the posts - im on streamate atm but now i cant figure out how to work this. ROFL so new.. and i suppose thats a whole new thread right? LOL
    There is actually a whole thread devoted to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apryll11 View Post
    Omg, you are too cute.
    You can sign up for any site, they ask your country when you sign up, if you put Canada you wont have to worry about SSN. It doesnt matter where you stream, plenty of girls go on vacation and work.
    Big difference between camming on vacation, and camming where you LIVE, if you are there on a non-working visa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    Big difference between camming on vacation, and camming where you LIVE, if you are there on a non-working visa.
    I'm sorry when was a work visa required to be a cam model, in any country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apryll11 View Post
    I'm sorry when was a work visa required to be a cam model, in any country?
    A work visa is legally required to do any job. Camming is a job (self employed/contractor rather than as an employee, but yup, job). If you are living in another country and do not have a visa that allows you to work, you can't cam legally.

    There has been some discussion of possible loopholes if you are registered and being paid in another country, but you can't just sign up and work on a camsite and get paid to a bank account in a country where you do not have the legal right to work.

    This has been gone over again and again in threads (usually when someone is a student in another country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    but you can't just sign up and work on a camsite and get paid to a bank account in a country where you do not have the legal right to work.
    Why not, I do. I even had a admin rep of the site help me to set up the direct deposit.

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    I'm sorry when was a work visa required to be a cam model, in any country?
    Well, pretty much always. A visitors visa doesn't allow you to work while visiting and because you are paid in a easily traceable way it is technically easy for them to check up on what you are doing by looking at your bank accounts.

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    Why not, I do. I even had a admin rep of the site help me to set up the direct deposit.
    That was very nice of them, but there is still that pesky legality thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apryll11 View Post
    Why not, I do. I even had a admin rep of the site help me to set up the direct deposit.
    OK. Let me re-phrase. You are physically able. It's still not legal.

    Why would the site care? Or know? Because you are not an employee of the site, it is not their responsibility to make sure that you are legally able to work in the country where you live. Their responsibility begins and ends with making sure that THEY are not doing anything illegal (which is why they check your age - if they were broadcasting a minor, THEY would be breaking the law). Beyond making sure that you are not doing anything that could get the site fined/sued/shut down, they don't care what else you do. The admin of the site is not LE or a tax or immigration lawyer. They just want you to keep earning them money, and couldn't care less if you get deported for working illegally.

    While we are at it "lots of other people do it" also isn't an excuse. LOTS of sex workers do not declare their income or pay tax. STILL ILLEGAL. Lots of people stay in a country after their visa has expired (esp the US). STILL ILLEGAL. Lots of people work "cash in hand" or "under the table" jobs if they don't have a work visa. STILL ILLEGAL.

    The independent contractor status can make it easier to find ways around not having a work visa, but if you are just blithely assuming that what you are doing is ok, and have nothing to back up your legal right to work....well, you are taking the risk of deportation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    While we are at it "lots of other people do it" also isn't an excuse. LOTS of sex workers do not declare their income or pay tax. STILL ILLEGAL. Lots of people stay in a country after their visa has expired (esp the US). STILL ILLEGAL. Lots of people work "cash in hand" or "under the table" jobs if they don't have a work visa. STILL ILLEGAL.

    The independent contractor status can make it easier to find ways around not having a work visa, but if you are just blithely assuming that what you are doing is ok, and have nothing to back up your legal right to work....well, you are taking the risk of deportation.
    ^^^This.

    In my wild child phase, back in the flower of my youth..I lived in countries illegally and I got away with doing so. But, I did so understanding the risks and what the consequences of getting caught would be.

    Are the risks mostly 'minimal'? Yes, but that being said.....I personally once got caught trying to go back into a country where I had been living illegally and refused entry and was not allowed back into that country for a very long time afterward. It was no big deal to me because at the time that I was country hoping I had no problem picking up my life and starting somewhere else. If someone is settled into a place, has a husband and family then they really have to think about whether the risk of having the job is worth the consequences from being deported from a country and never being allowed to enter that country again to see their family.

    If you don't believe that this exact situation happens everyday then I highly suggest you visit some immigration forums. There are so many stories that will break your heart of families ripped apart because people assumed that they would never be caught and deported.

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