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    I am aware that dancing in Los Angeles can be difficult, especially for black girls but this is pretty ridiculous. I have been doing my research and running down my list and only Jet Strip has allowed me to audition. I'm not showing up out of the blue, I always call beforehand to ask if I can audition, what I need for legal purposes etc. I treat it a lot like a job interview, my outfits fit, I have a pair of pink 7" Pleasers, I have everything for any situation in my dance bag. I show up dressed and ready to go but then the managers always turn me away and I've been to about 6 clubs.

    It's so frustrating!

    For example, I tried this new place that got taken over by Spearmint Rhino management in COI called Monarchs Gentleman Club. I did all my research that I could on it since it just opened in April, found out that it was mixed, fairly clean (only one extras girl, that I know of, from when it used to be Hawaii Theatre), and on their website and in reviews they expressed that the club really needs more girls. This is from a review made less than a week ago.

    I get there and they have a sign up that they're hiring more dancers. Guy at the door (I think he was an assistant manager) is really friendly, keeps telling me that they really need more dancers and thinks I could do okay as a newbie. He calls the manager, a white guy, and he comes out and asks me if I've danced before. I say no, he asks me where else I've auditioned and I tell him just Jet Strip but I've been trying to get an audition with a bunch of clubs. He quickly rattles off a list of other clubs, clubs that I KNOW are extras clubs, then tells me that I need more experience and to come back.

    Ugh.

    Then to add extra insult to injury he goes, "Our roster is full anyway" and I'm like. Y'all got a sign OUTSIDE saying you need more dancers, your website says you're hiring dancers, your doorman says you're hiring dancers, your reviews are saying you need more dancers, JUST TELL ME YOU FILLED YOUR BLACK GIRL QUOTA.

    >_<

    I don't know what to do...and I can't help but think that it's because I'm dark skinned which I can't help. I have really long but very neat dreads (people always think I have braids) down my back almost to my butt so I also think my natural hair could be a factor but I can't wear a wig. I have too much hair! I lost 30lbs (college weight) before I started looking to audition but I didn't lose my F cups and toned my butt so I'm curvy with a small waist. One manager who turned me down was nice enough to say that I looked exotic and even though their club doesn't hire newbs I should play up the caribbean look. One of my friends is a stripper and she just told me to keep trying but she's very slim.

    Normally I would try a black club but the few black clubs in LA are just awful thinly veiled brothels.

    Basically what I want to know is if ANYONE has any suggestions as to what to do next, please let me know. I cannot go back to a 9 - 5 again, I don't want to sit at my computer all damn day. If I could just move, I probably would, or travel weekly to Atlanta or Vegas or something but I have to get the money first....

    This post is already too long but PLEASE if anyone has any suggestions or can be of ANY help, let me know!


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    it's definitely your dreads and possibly your body since you didnt mention exact measurements. vegas will not take your dreads either. sorry, thats the reality. just be glad they were kind to you. ive never ever worked with a girl with dreads but one time the manager let one auditon just so the staff could have a laugh. it was cruel but thats the industry.

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    I'm sorry you're running into brick walls with auditioning. The summer is busy season for auditioning in my area so it may be the same where you're at.

    All I can suggest is persistence. Go back in a couple of weeks and you may be able to catch a different manager that will let you audition. Sometimes managers will be dicks because of something putting them in a bad mood and then they take it out on everyone around them. If not, you could try picking the least dirty of the "dirty" clubs and get a start there. You can still make money, it'll just take a little extra effort. It could be good for teaching you how to pick up the vibes of creepers, get you a thick skin, and get you experience. Then just try again.

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    Don't tell them that you're new. Tell them that you have worked out of state / city / whatever or that you just came back from taking a break. Aside from the dreads, which I think are definitely getting in your way, you saying that you're new is def taking away from your hirability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarleyCat View Post
    \ JUST TELL ME YOU FILLED YOUR BLACK GIRL QUOTA.

    >_<
    That sounds beyond annoying. That goes on alot even with normal jobs. But it's a numbers game. After some no's you'll eventually get a yes.

    I don't have much if any advice. But wish you luck. Good for you in regards of being prepared when you audition. We can't control what other people do and management and make up whatever rules they want as they go along. But you can control what you do. In which I think you're putting your best effort on your part. So don't feel bad at all. Along with some minor tweaking i.e. (not telling them you're new etc) Hopefully something will come up.


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    Girl I know how you feel... I feel like the same thing is happening to me. I called a few clubs and then decided to go in person. They said the manager wasnt in and every time I called, there was no manager available. Its a far drive so i cant keep driving there for nothing, but I'm going to try a few more times and if it doesnt work, I'll figure something out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlotte. View Post
    it's definitely your dreads and possibly your body since you didnt mention exact measurements. vegas will not take your dreads either. sorry, thats the reality. just be glad they were kind to you. ive never ever worked with a girl with dreads but one time the manager let one audition just so the staff could have a laugh. it was cruel but thats the industry.
    I might be inclined to disagree w/ you. I don't think the dreads are the kicker here. While it may not help her cause, either, though. I had nicely maintained dreads for 6 years as well as one other girl I know & we both have worked at a variety of dif clubs & never had an issue getting hired. But neither of us are black either (I'm a Native mix & the other girl is latina -so there's your race argument again). Now I don't know about LA, but I do know about many other areas & cities including Vegas & I know that being a thick, dark skinned, black girl is more than likely what is hindering her, unfortunately. While this industry luvs exotic women of many dif races as a seller, I have only seen it be kind to only a very small handful of dark skinned black girls & they totally had to almost play a barbie, white girl role to counter it. So fucked up.

    Now, OP, I know this is not what your gonna wanna hear -but it is possibly to make a good income at a dirty club as a clean dancer if your an incredibly strong hustler. I also looked at your online pics & stuff. If these clubs are insisting you need more experience then possibly work at one of these extras clubs for alittle while & use it as a stepping stone while you continue to tone up & drop some more weight, until you can get into a club your really aiming for. I would even use your online sources & sites as a platform to get regulars into the club for you if possible. I could see these two being used as cross advertisement for you very nicely.

    As I said, I know it's not what you wanna hear, but its something to mull over. I have always been a clean dancer & have worked in "dirty" clubs & cities & still made at did decent as well as a killing on some nights even & I have worked the whole gamut of dif types of clubs be it clean, dirty, dive, gown, or lingerie bar.Everyone likes a clean club, but sometimes we got take baby steps to get to our end goal. It sux, I know, but I wish you the best of luck. Also, I can not emphasize to continue trying & toning up & working out. I just dropped 15 -20lbs in liquor bloat & my earnings have jumped back up again & are waaay more consistent now. So, I have experienced both ends of that spectrum as well, myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlotte. View Post
    it's definitely your dreads and possibly your body since you didnt mention exact measurements. vegas will not take your dreads either. sorry, thats the reality. just be glad they were kind to you. ive never ever worked with a girl with dreads but one time the manager let one audition just so the staff could have a laugh. it was cruel but thats the industry.
    I might be inclined to disagree w/ you. I don't think the dreads are the kicker here. While it may not help her cause, either, though. I had nicely maintained dreads for 6 years as well as one other girl I know & we both have worked at a variety of dif clubs & never had an issue getting hired. But neither of us are black either (I'm a Native mix & the other girl is latina -so there's your race argument again). Now I don't know about LA, but I do know about many other areas & cities including Vegas & I know that being a thick, dark skinned, black girl is more than likely what is hindering her, unfortunately. While this industry luvs exotic women of many dif races as a seller, I have only seen it be kind to only a very small handful of dark skinned black girls & they totally had to almost play a barbie, white girl role to counter it. So fucked up.

    Now, OP, I know this is not what your gonna wanna hear -but it is possibly to make a good income at a dirty club as a clean dancer if your an incredibly strong hustler. I also looked at your online pics & stuff. If these clubs are insisting you need more experience then possibly work at one of these extras clubs for alittle while & use it as a stepping stone while you continue to tone up & drop some more weight, until you can get into a club your really aiming for. I would even use your online sources & sites as a platform to get regulars into the club for you if possible. I could see these two being used as cross advertisement for you very nicely.

    As I said, I know it's not what you wanna hear, but its something to mull over. I have always been a clean dancer & have worked in "dirty" clubs & cities & still made at did decent as well as a killing on some nights even & I have worked the whole gamut of dif types of clubs be it clean, dirty, dive, gown, or lingerie bar.Everyone likes a clean club, but sometimes we got take baby steps to get to our end goal. It sux, I know, but I wish you the best of luck. Also, I can not emphasize to continue trying & toning up & working out. I just dropped 15 -20lbs in liquor bloat & my earnings have jumped back up again & are waaay more consistent now. So, I have experienced both ends of that spectrum as well, myself.
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    I have to agree with Brandi... I think you're hot as you are but strip club managers have a rather narrow minded view of what sells

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    Hi darlin' I also know how you feel. I live in Cleveland, Oh where the top clubs are white and I get the same damn song and dance each time I go to audition as well. I am brown skinned and am told "built like a white girl" well I just that shit ain't good enough because for 6years I have not been able to get into Christies Cabaret downtown. When I go it's "the manager is busy, the gm will call you back if he's interested" stuff like that. Now they take a copy of your drivers liscence. We all know those are some of the ugliest pics one will take in their lifetime. If you seen my pic you damn sure wouldn't call me back, hell I wouldn't either. It's not like they take a pic of you right there and then like "oh ok she is pretty." Damn! Downtown is cut throat as hell and you have to know somebody if you are black and I don't know a soul. (no doorman, dancers security, janitors no body) I did know a girl I worked with at a black club years ago but one day she came out and told me I am black just like she is so she wouldn't help me and I would just have to get there on my own. That bitch got put on the block list real fast.

    On the other hand I do work at a black club and have always had to work at a black clubs. You can make it work though. On the weekend go to the ones that have the best crowd, the most rainmen. How late are the clubs open till. In cleveland we close at 2:30 but on the weekend can go until about 3:30, and we all no black people come out late. Sometime it doesn't start raining until 2 or 3.(pitiful) How much are your dances there? Do guys buy dances, when it's late and it's crowded and people are feeling the vibe I don't ask for dances I look for the ones holding the singles and back up on their ass until they drop those ones, after about 30sec if that floor is clean i move on to the next one. In black clubs there is the potential to clean up but you will definitely work for it. Sometime is about your hustle. Late at night we go on stage with each other 2 to no more than 4girls. (guys love this) Try to find the best black club you can and work the shit out of it.

    As for the white and mixed club fuck them, they suck. While I would give my left arm to make that green money you know what yo' gotti says "drug money, can buy you what you want"! I don't give a damn if you money launder it, print it, wash it as long as it spend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandi_Lynn View Post
    I might be inclined to disagree w/ you. I don't think the dreads are the kicker here. While it may not help her cause, either, though. I had nicely maintained dreads for 6 years as well as one other girl I know & we both have worked at a variety of dif clubs & never had an issue getting hired. But neither of us are black either (I'm a Native mix & the other girl is latina -so there's your race argument again). Now I don't know about LA, but I do know about many other areas & cities including Vegas & I know that being a thick, dark skinned, black girl is more than likely what is hindering her, unfortunately. While this industry luvs exotic women of many dif races as a seller, I have only seen it be kind to only a very small handful of dark skinned black girls & they totally had to almost play a barbie, white girl role to counter it. So fucked up.

    Now, OP, I know this is not what your gonna wanna hear -but it is possibly to make a good income at a dirty club as a clean dancer if your an incredibly strong hustler. I also looked at your online pics & stuff. If these clubs are insisting you need more experience then possibly work at one of these extras clubs for alittle while & use it as a stepping stone while you continue to tone up & drop some more weight, until you can get into a club your really aiming for. I would even use your online sources & sites as a platform to get regulars into the club for you if possible. I could see these two being used as cross advertisement for you very nicely.

    As I said, I know it's not what you wanna hear, but its something to mull over. I have always been a clean dancer & have worked in "dirty" clubs & cities & still made at did decent as well as a killing on some nights even & I have worked the whole gamut of dif types of clubs be it clean, dirty, dive, gown, or lingerie bar.Everyone likes a clean club, but sometimes we got take baby steps to get to our end goal. It sux, I know, but I wish you the best of luck. Also, I can not emphasize to continue trying & toning up & working out. I just dropped 15 -20lbs in liquor bloat & my earnings have jumped back up again & are waaay more consistent now. So, I have experienced both ends of that spectrum as well, myself.
    la and vegas are the 2 cities with the highest percentage of black girls ive worked with. lots of them are thick in my view but I have seen lots of super fat girls call themselves thick and curvy and while its nice that they have high self esteem they are delusional about this industry. its not just black girls that need to be thin and barbie it up for upscale clubs, everyone needs to. me (skinny implant blonde) and my friends (skinny asian model and skinny beautiful brunette) have all been working forever at the best clubs and we tend to dress very girl next door- little makeup, casual hair, cute outfits like longsleeve shirts instead of the norm bikini or bra. but when we audition we always go full glam because thats what they want. we have all had auditions that we didnt take seriously and just showed up and got a big reality check when we were stuck on dayshift or put on probation or rejected. auditioning is not the time to be creative or be yourself. be a barbie. that is what they want.

    its cool you work with dreads tho. I personally like them but I still stand by what I said earlier that unless shes fat, the dreads are probably the biggest factor.

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    from what I've seen working in Vegas esp Sapphires, you def DON"T need to be a skinny minnie or "Barbie" , my first time working there I laughed to myself thinking that so many girls I had worked with were so intimidated by these girls ,I sure as hell wasn't. I was only intimidated by the size of the club itself & the sea of men LOL. I'm not a skinny barbie type & never will be, but then again I'm not trying to work in upscale/high end clubs either. I think the OP should travel to smaller cities if she can financially & try mid to lower tier clubs until she gets $$$ up to travel to somewhere that she wants to. Traveling seems to be the best option IMO, bc after I worked in the same club in LA for a few years, I knew I could make more outside this city even with my alternative look, so I highly doubt dreads would be a deal breaker in smaller lower tier clubs.
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    ... he asks me where else I've auditioned and I tell him just Jet Strip but I've been trying to get an audition with a bunch of clubs. ...
    If another manager asks, don't tell them that you've been applying at a bunch of clubs and haven't even been able to land auditions. People tend to favor individuals that have already been qualified by their peers. Telling them that no one will let you audition makes you seem undesirable and may have a hand in your rejection.
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    Thank you ladies for all the info, suggestions, and tips this is very very insightful and helpful.

    I have had my dreads for almost 10 years now and I'm not cutting them off for anyone or any job, not until I'm ready to let them go. I also really have to disagree with some of you that think my hair is a large part of the factor. I think it's a relatively small "flaw" but I mentioned it because natural hair is a growing trend among black women and I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing it in clubs. At all the clubs I went to at least a 1/3rd to 1/2 the black girls had natural hair and one mostly white club I've been to (I didn't want to audition there, I just tagged along with some friends) had a black girl with dreads. Hers were longer than mine but she was working it and getting rained on on stage which is so rare in Los Angeles. I've recently seen two black girls with natural hair get tipped big time on stage at Little Darlings in Las Vegas too...it was so beautiful, brought tears to my eyes!

    Don't think it's my weight much either because at 4/6 clubs I went to there was at least one girl bigger than me. I should really reiterate that I did thorough research on each of these clubs before approaching them. I scoped them out big time for about a month.

    I do agree with the sentiment that it's me telling them that I'm new. At every one of the clubs I told them that I'm new to dancing and these clubs aren't really upscale either. I wasn't going to Spearmint Rhino's or anything like that, just some middle/dive places that I know have a mixed bag of girls or were rumored to be black girl friendly. Monarch's was the only exception to my list of clubs, I just went there because it was so brand new that I thought that it couldn't hurt to try it. I know sometimes you gotta fake it to make it but once I get on stage won't it be obvious that I'm new to this? I only do stripteases and things like that while camming so I know how to dance slow and stuff but there's so much more space on stage than in my room, when I auditioned at the one club that let me I almost didn't know what to do with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandi_Lynn View Post
    Now, OP, I know this is not what your gonna wanna hear -but it is possibly to make a good income at a dirty club as a clean dancer if your an incredibly strong hustler. I also looked at your online pics & stuff. If these clubs are insisting you need more experience then possibly work at one of these extras clubs for a little while & use it as a stepping stone while you continue to tone up & drop some more weight, until you can get into a club your really aiming for. I would even use your online sources & sites as a platform to get regulars into the club for you if possible. I could see these two being used as cross advertisement for you very nicely.
    No, this is EXACTLY what I needed to hear. I've been thinking about just sucking it up and seeing if I can do well in these types of clubs because all the black clubs here are extras clubs with girls openly having sex with customers. At least I'll have SOME experience and will be forced to learn and perfect my hustle. I just don't feel right lying and saying that I have worked in a club when I never have, I've just read about working in one. I have also considered telling my cam audience about when and where they can come see me (a good majority of them live in my city) but I'm apprehensive about it, couldn't hurt once I'm more comfortable with it but I have considered it.

    I would honestly be more comfortable working at a black club because I'm pretty sure I'll never be slim and thickness is queen there, but there just aren't any good ones with money here. That's why I was like maybe I can just try and get some money here then travel to ATL or LV or wherever every other weekend and stay with family while I work.

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    If another manager asks, don't tell them that you've been applying at a bunch of clubs and haven't been able to land auditions. People tend to favor individuals that have already been qualified by their peers. Telling them that no one will let you audition makes you seem undesirable and may have a hand in your rejection.
    Also true, I'm kicking myself for being too honest for my own good sometimes.

    Thank you sooooo much again, ladies! This is really really helpful advice. I have another six to ten clubs that I want to audition for but I'm going to wait a week or so and try again. I'm waiting on my new SSC and have some minor surgery to recover from this week. Once all that is done I'm getting back out there.

    Thanks so much for all the encouragement, the advice, the suggestions, the sentiments, the EVERYTHING

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    well just because you say you saw a girl bigger than you doesn't mean your weight isnt a factor. most fat girls at clubs were hired thinner but allowed to stay when they got fatter. you say you disagree with me on the natural hair yet ask what the trend is in clubs, ive already said Ive never seen a dreaded girl in 40 clubs in 4 years. I know its hard to hear but I worked in la for a long time and thats reality. its good to be positive but there are a lot of clubs in la and it would be a shame for you to waste so much time and gas $ auditioning at dif clubs and getting rejected each time.

    you should check out the chain clubs. they tend to be better run, it sounds like youve been going to shitty disorganized clubs if theyre not even letting you audition.

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    Marley cat, can we see some pictures, and some of your hair?

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    Did you try the Playpen? It's nasty but a place to get your feet wet.
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    To the OP: Try StarGarden in North Hollywood. It's topless, mostly stage $$. It's kind of a regular's club so it takes a while to make $$. But...the manager LOVES black girls! It's not a black club, it's kind of a rocker club with girls of all ethnicities. The manager is a German white guy. Ask for Kristine or Hans.

    The $$ won't be great at first, but it's a good place to start. It's also very clean. There is no way to be an extras girl there unless it's done OTC.

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    Default Re: Getting Frustrated, No One Will Let Me Audition

    I'm not a regulars kind of gal, so would it still be worth it to try there?
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    I don't think dreads are what guys want to see and managers know this. You mentioned you could wear a wig? Can we see photos?

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    No she said she can't wear a wig she has too much hair. I really want to see a pic. How do you wear them when you go audition? Straight down, pulled up in a ponytail, can you wear any sort of an updo? I know when I used to go try to audition that I would wear long straight hair (we know white men love this) . You can always change it later. Straight hair is a pain in the ass and you always have to brush is and make sure it is just so.

    I also wanted to know how do you do your makeup. Do you wear any. I tend to do mine very elegant but make sure it's not overdone and I leave the jalena eyes (hit the floor) until i work. Go on youtube for ideas of styling your dreads and/or makeup look. What do you wear into the club, you know people scrutinize how we look, what we wear and what comes out of our mouths. Do you know anyone else that works there? With Christies downtown for the black girls you have to know someone there. It's a shame to go through all this for a damn job and I know most people won't get it. It's like "if you just audition me and see what I can do you may like me and be suprised."

    Don't wear yourself down. Like I said before, It's all about the managers perception and what he wants even if there are 20makes and models of that same shit running around. Go elsewhere and get your money and work on your craft. You can always stop back from time to time but don't let it comsume you. If you do get a chance upload a pic. You can scribble out your face. I just want a idea of how your hair looks. I worked with a bartender that had dreads (yes even though she was not a dancer) they were beautiful and very long and kind of curly. I wish you the best and like 2pac "keep your head up".

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    If u look at Marleys signature, she has links to her tumblr and other sites where she has posted pics.

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    U said ur an F cup so I'm guessing you probably are on the hicker side. What are ur measuremens? If your waiSt is any less than like 32 you are too fat. This is LA. I just can't imagine you race or complexion being the reason for every single rejection. White men ar nowhere near as colorstruck as black men but they are much more body concious. Something isn't right about this story. Not calling you a liar but I wonder if you aren't aware of how your coming across to these managers. Anyway if the white clubs don't want you then you gotta figure out a plan B. Try Hispanic clubs if you dare. They like thick girls, but I'm willing to het you will face some racism. Or suck it up and go to a black club until you get enough $ to travel or until you find a nicer white club. Good luck honey! I'm a chocolate girl in socal too and once I have my baby i'll have to deal with this shit. If ur still looking to travel in like October/novemberish maybe we can team up and try Vegas

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    Right, her measurements are 5'7 and 45 38 48 (http://chaturbate.com/marleygotboobs/).

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