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    It has come to my attention over the years of being a webcam model and working on a lot of sites. that some of these sites I use to work for one that paid by the hour and one that was suppose to be a studio for webcams.com originally is now a studio for streamate. even webcamjobs.com that use to be a site for lustdollars.com that paid by the hour is now a studio for streamate.

    So part of me is wondering how I can become a studio I have the knowledge of being a webcam model and running a studio just seems like the next step in moving up in the cam model world.

    The industry has changed a lot and things are definitely different from when I got started, girls are offering almost everything and anything in free chat for tips and the more venturing girls are really mastering their hustle but of course this business always has a new batch of girls who want to start and make money. with my plans of making a resource site for camgirls I am thinking having a studio where I coach my girls maybe guys too would just make sense.
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    Default Re: Owning a studio is it possible

    If you want to run a studio, you would just go to the main site (streamate for example) and sign up as a studio instead of a performer.

    Although, most cam girls here are not fond of studios... so I'm not sure how much positive input you will receive.

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    If you want to run a studio, you would just go to the main site (streamate for example) and sign up as a studio instead of a performer.

    Although, most cam girls here are not fond of studios... so I'm not sure how much positive input you will receive.

    Good luck!

    Here is not the place I would be recruiting models for my studio. I have thought about it on and off about being a recruiter for streamate for a few years now. I just had too many things going on in my life where I never had a to make it happen, but now I do.
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    Default Re: Owning a studio is it possible

    Depends. There really isn't a need for a virtual studio but there are needs for actual physical studio's. I run one and it is working out pretty well. A lot of people can't work from home for various reasons and they love having a place to go to and cam at.

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    a more ethical alternative to running a for-profit virtual studio would be to recruit for sites that offer referral fees for cam chica sign-ups. Referral fees don't get docked from the working chicas pay checks, they are a cost eaten by the sites that seek these sign-ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    Depends. There really isn't a need for a virtual studio but there are needs for actual physical studio's. I run one and it is working out pretty well. A lot of people can't work from home for various reasons and they love having a place to go to and cam at.
    Right On Jane! I did not know you worked at a studio/ran one!!! I started working at a studio back in Feb. and it has been a wonderful experience for me. A real studio can offer many positive things to cammers! I have really enjoyed working for mine and the booking fees I pay are far worth the investment and peace of mind that I am part of a legitimate adult business.

    My words of advice on this topic are the same...Minnie, a lot of camgirls hate virtual studios, and for a very good reason: The virtual studio does not help with anything except possible better placement. Virtual studios cannot offer the help that a REAL STUDIO CAN. A real studio provides so many options for cammodels that they cannot otherwise get themselves or with a virtual studio. For example, my studio requires that all models become independent contractors, and submit to the county for the license.

    The downsides of studios:
    1) They are expensive. The rent you will pay for a studio will be damn near double what you would pay for a basic office because adult cam studios must be zoned for adult activities, such as shooting porn, camming, escort agencies, etc. Due to this, owners of adult zoned buildings usually can get away with charging a much higher rate per square foot.
    2) Licensing: A truly by-the-book studio must offer some kind of licensing for the models: Business license, independent contractors license. These cost money. If a model signs up, appears on cam that night, makes $25, tries again the next day, makes $50....decides she has had enough/cant do it/it isn't for her.....the model cannot pay the cost for her business license and the studio is stuck with the cost. (Not all studios offer this, I called 3 local studios in my town and only one offers an independent contractors license......If you are hiring independent contractors, by law they must have a license, so I decided against working for the studios that did not offer licensing)
    3) Models all come and go and you cannot treat them as employees unless you want to pay them an hourly as employees. This means when it comes to cam-rooms, there will be conflict.

    I have thought about owning a studio as well, and have owned a small one room studio in a zoned office building but the legalities, costs, etc...are too much for lil ol me to handle on my own. I have decided working for a studio to be the best option for me. I have thoroughly enjoyed working for my studio and learning from the inside out, and have definitely enjoyed letting others deal with the headaches and legalities while I come and go as I choose

    I also agree with LOVESHOOKS.....I am considering becoming a recruiter for my studio. It is a gamble and investment of time but you never know. Some models will not make it, but some will and be very successful. I was going to start making a few posts here and there about it, but I was not sure how girls would respond. There is a big difference though, I would be recruiting models to work at a REAL studio, and I would not make a percentage. I would make bonuses and would only make the bonus if a girl cams for 90 days. This cost would be eaten by the site, and not the model. I think this could be very beneficial to me, and to a lot of models out there who do not know where to begin, and cannot cam from home for whatever reason. If you are interested in becoming a recruiter, maybe contact some of the studios in your area (if any) and go from there!

    Jane-you got me out of hiding. Me has been lurking but I had to represent the REAL STUDIO BITCHES on SW! Not all studios are bad bb's.......only the VIRTUAL ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    Not all studios are bad bb's.......only the VIRTUAL ones.
    Not all virtual studios are bad.
    very few virtual studios are awesome. Its finding the needle in the haystack. For new models seeking , it can be a nightmare. I can see and understand they are bad. I have seen some , only a few, that actually go way out their way to help their models. Usually its the studios that take the lowest cut. I mean the LOWEST cut.
    Seems like the highest cut ones who take 5% and more dont give a damn about the model. They are looking for the revenue. Of course everyone is looking for some type of cut if they are opening a studio. Its common sense but to leave models hanging with out a clue what to do is wrong. <-- That is what I hate, studios that claim they will help a model succeed only to get her siggy.

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    With rebuilding and rebranding www.thecamgirlexpert.com I want to be able to give a full how-to experience when it comes to camming. I do not have the space to have a physical studio like I use to have back in 2003 and it was just a lot of drama with the girls. Maybe in the future I plan on opening an escort agency. I could have the girls work webcam while waiting for calls. But even that I am not sure I really want to build that type of business.

    When I had my studio there was no worry about zoning and permits. It was a huge hassle invterviewing girl, and then training them to work the sites and plus dealing with their emotional baggage.

    Imlive, flirt4free and cams.com have a model referral program. I use to make some decent money in the past recruiting girls to work the sites and they were working from home. Some didn’t last long others did really well and even ended up on the sites top model pages. It was very rewarding.

    There are no more studios in my area anymore. There was one called computer friendly-guys they were a studio for flirt4free and got shut down for unknown reasons. I worked for them once and I hated how they kept the place cold. I did like their set up but the computer was extremely far away from the bed and they had the Sony-EVI100 cameras I quickly figured out I could recreate the same set up at home and I wouldn’t have to work in a place that was constantly cold.

    Since I have created the camgirlhandbook aka thecamgirlexpert.com I am already getting request from girls wanting me to coach them and I feel that I should start charging for it I haven’t figured out my set prices for it because I am still thinking I should pursue getting my life coach training so I will have those skills to be a good business coach.

    There are plenty of virtual call centres out there that took down their brick and mortar buildings and recruit for people to work from home so I see creating a virtual webcam studio no different then those. Everything they had for them online, orientation, job training, evaluations, and coaching.
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    I just don't think there's a demand for this. You don't really need that much coaching for camming. Like, super newbs learn pretty quickly what works and what doesn't. They can look at the first page girls on SM for a few hours and see how it works. And this forum is a quick google search away. I don't think most girls would give up 5% or more of their income for camgirl coaching when it's not needed to make good money.

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    I really agree that there's no need for a virtual studio. If experienced, educated girls are asking you to coach them and want to pay you to do so, that's awesome! But that's more of a managerial role, not a virtual studio that takes 5+% of your earnings and won't let you work with the main site directly.

    The only way I could see a virtual studio being both profitable and ethical is if it really did a lot of the grunt work for the girls. Helped you apply at and stream to multiple sites at one time, handled fanmail, provided a forwarding service for gifts, provided a decent payment processor for indy shows and tributes (e.g. CCBill isn't practical for most individuals, but might be for a studio with 100 girls), provided scripts/ideas/example clips for fetishes and roleplays (like SPH or findomme), handled Twitter/tumblr/personal websites, edited and posted content, tracked down and DMCAed pirated content, provided live tech support, dealt with site issues like getting ratings removed/suspensions lifted/rates raised/etc. Basically the more tedious things that this forum teaches you how to do yourself.

    Something like that might well be worth 5-10%, or a monthly fee, as it could drastically increase a girl's profits and reduce work stress. But again, something like that would be more like a manager or assistant than a studio.

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    Default Re: Owning a studio is it possible

    As with what others have said, it's possible, but the idea of a virtual studio? Just not cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlotteslut View Post
    I just don't think there's a demand for this.
    There isnt. Which is why most virtual studios who advertise have to actively deceive the performer to get them to sign up. Then badger them to complete the application. And depending on the site, lock them in a contractual agreement for 3-12months if they try to leave it. If there was any real demand for this service, there would be no need for any of these kinds of strategies.

    Cammodels who are actually up to date on certain websites (ideally are on it themselves so they know what theyre talking about esp when it comes to tech problems), consistency hasnt historically been an issue for the person, helping new models out 1-on-1, doing ads/promo for them (or the recruit benefits from their traffic - camgirls with huge twitter followings and/or pornstars fall into this group), keep open lines of communication, and ideally (bc this is where so so so many people fuckup): defer payout to the site to handle - that makes sense to me.

    It is like getting paid for posting advice youd post for free on SW, makes 100% sense. It is your time, get compensated for it if youre actually you know, doing stuff. If someone has the qualities to be an experienced, consistent, professional manager - they should be one. Ive met a few people who fit this description who run virtual studios and theyre truly just compensated for their time and advice and tend to have a small group of recruits... and each cam actively themselves on the same sites they recruit. That scenario makes sense bc youre getting your hand literally held through a tough saturated field by someone who is succeeding at it. Makes sense.

    However - that is easily idk under 5% of virtual studios out there. So. Boom shaka laka.





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    I spent quarter of my life in studios
    Actual Physical studios. Not as a model. As an operator. I typed instead of girls I talked instead of girls I created their brand new cam characters, if a member told her what to do I helped her how to make the things what the member wanted I made their videos and edited them, I did their hair and make up and I trained them too.
    A physical studio worth it if girls can work there on multiple sites at the same time. We were on at least 10 sites at the same time the top was 16.
    2007 was the best year for it we were able to make 350-800 dollars a shift. A day was divided for 3 shifts so actually it was opened 24/7. And if you have more rooms and you can make at least 350 dollars a shift thats with 5 rooms with 3 shifts a day well......its not bad
    And a great idea because there are girls there who struggle: no experience, shy, no money to get a good pc or laptop or afford fine net etc etc etc.
    Plus it was the best and most exciting experience of my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlotteslut View Post
    I just don't think there's a demand for this. You don't really need that much coaching for camming. Like, super newbs learn pretty quickly what works and what doesn't. They can look at the first page girls on SM for a few hours and see how it works. And this forum is a quick google search away. I don't think most girls would give up 5% or more of their income for camgirl coaching when it's not needed to make good money.
    I can tell you from my experience there IS a demand from new girls on advice, tips, help, etc on how to get into camming and all of that. My blog gets a lot of traffic and I was getting swarmed with emails from girls asking for specific help when I had my contact information available. So, there is a bit of a "demand" for assistance, BUT... I agree that there is not a demand for PAID assistance. I still get a lot of girls telling me that they love the help and information I put out on my blog. So people do find these types of blogs or websites helpful.... But from what I have seen, everyone who has tried to charge for this type of "advice" or "help" is not successful because cam girls just don't want to pay for that kind of help, and it makes the blog/website look questionable when there is a charge to access information. I'm always referring people who contact me to check out StripperWeb because it is really THE best source of information available, and it's 100% free.

    Another thing that I have run into is that other performers tend to REALLY appreciate when they know the information they are receiving is from an active, successful cam girl. I have no idea who you are or where you cam, Minnie, but just be prepared to have your credentials as an "expert" on camming questioned. You are here asking questions that I would personally think an expert on camming would already know. If you have not cammed in a while, as I think you said previously, things have changed a lot over the years. The same advice that applied a few years go might not apply now.

    If you are trying to make a profit, why not just start camming again or continue to cam? It will definitely make you more money in the long run if you are truly an expert at this, than any advice site that could be made.

    I'm not trying to knock your efforts, but just give you a few things to consider before you put a lot of time and effort into something like this. Good luck in whatever you choose to do!
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    I also feel there is a place for the "virtual studio". But I agree that this should be for referral fees - and not take a % of the model's earnings! It's just nice to be a part of a community - and have someone on your side working with you. I'm trying to work with a site right now, where I could get the referral fee - if it works out I'll let you know how it goes!

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