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    So the club I currently work at just announced that we will be the first strip club to beta test a new, interesting technology that the company hopes to eventually implement in more strip clubs around the USA. Bear with me here, I'm a little fuzzy on all of the details. They haven't really explained all of the logistics too us, yet.

    Basically, we will have iPads/tablets all over the club (15 to start with), mostly in the VIP/bottle service areas (but also for the general tables, eventually, I believe) that have a "stripper menu." The menu will feature pictures of every girl that is currently working, and the customer can swipe through the roster and request a girl to his table. The dancer's profile will simply be her name, a picture, and her favorite drink (chosen from a selection of drinks from the beverage companies sponsoring the service).

    If a dancer is currently on stage or in VIP, she will be listed as "not available." Everyone else, "available."

    These dancer profiles will also be linked to a social networking site where girls can interact with their customers in a secure, private environment. This part is pretty awesome. Customers can book VIP/CRs with dancers ahead of time, and will also pay ahead of time.

    Things I do know:

    1. The tablets will be IP address locked, so if anyone were to steal a tablet, the "menu" software would no longer work, thereby ensuring the privacy of the dancers.
    2. The whole thing, for us at least, is sponsored by several (unnamed) liquor companies. The club isn't paying for it (this could be just because we are the beta).
    3. If a customer "orders" you, it is not guaranteed that he will spend money on you. Unlike the website that can be accessed from home, I don't think the tablets even have an option to pay for dances/rooms/etc ahead of time.
    4. There is no wait list for unavailable girls.
    5. Dancers can opt to have a "silhouette" photo on the social networking site for extra privacy. Regular photo for the club tablets, obviously.

    Things I'm questioning:

    1. My club doesn't monitor dances, only VIP, since we generally do table dances on the floor. I'm not sure how this would work, if you're dancing or even just sitting with a customer - the tablet would likely still list you as available. Our poor floor hosts and waitresses are going to be running around like crazy all night, and I imagine customers would be very insulted if a floor host intercepted them and tried to take a dancer away for another customer.
    2. With such a regular influx of new dancers, I don't know how they're going to manage to keep everything up to date - considering the pictures must be done professionally, and I doubt we'll have a regular photographer, or even a place set up to shoot. This could really hurt new dancers that haven't been put on the, er, menu.
    3. I would say our club is mid-sized. We don't have a ridiculously high number of girls contracted. For bigger clubs with higher turn-over on girls, this could get confusing really fast for all of the floor hosts and waitresses trying to keep track of everybody.
    4. It's extra work for everybody. How is the DJ going to keep the availability accurate when we still use a dry erase board for rotation? How often will the DJ forget to change the availability (probably OFTEN)?

    Things that bother me...
    1. How frequently dancers were made analogous with restaurant food during the presentation.
    2. If you take a bad picture, you're kind of screwed, because you're not allowed to use photos from a personal photo shoot. They must be done at the club, by the photographer that the club hires. If you happen to be broken out, bloated or having a bad hair day on the day our club does the shoot, you're pretty much SOL.

    In theory, I like it. It evens the playing field for girls who may not have rapport with the VIP hostesses to get selected by the big spenders who are looking for girls to buy off of rotation. The website will be a HUGE help for building clientele, especially men who travel irregularly from out of town. The tablet is kind of a cool "feature" that I think will bring more people in the door, and it encourages customers to spend money on girls. In practice, I expect that it's going to be frustrating and confusing. Thoughts?
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    i've heard of this ( sort of, a variation on it), only the customers can also rate the girls on a scale of 1-5 stars on how much they enjoyed the lap dance. and its on their website, not tablets. part of me likes it, because i bust my butt doing lap dances, never ripping the customer off like so many girls do, and many girls who give half-assed lap dances and end the songs early give the rest of us a bad name so its like pulling teeth to get a dance! i do NOT like the idea of having somebody take my picture though, i'd like to select the picture presented because a bad picture could destroy your money permanently!

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    Hmmm I don't know. In theory, I also like it, but there's something to be said for making money because you're actually out on the floor and hitting up customers, not just because you're fucking around in the dressing room but happen to have a nice photo or big tits or whatever is appealing, so dudes call you over with the app. It also seems like a HUGE hassle, especially on the support staff end, and as you mentioned to dancers who are busy on the floor but "available" according to the app. I'm also not keen on having a photo of myself on an app/network that any customer can access, because there goes hiding from people you know who happen to walk into the club. I don't know, lots of reasons against it for me, but I suppose it could lead to some customers you might miss out on in an otherwise busy club.

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    I don't like it. If there were a minimum tip the customer had to pay to summon a dancer, it would ease my mind. Otherwise every broke time waster will keep bothering dancers by clicking on all their pics. I like to choose who I sit with. I'm picky when it comes to customers. I like finding my spender and staying in place until his wallet is empty whenever possible.

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    I hate this notion and would leave a club if it were implemented. Menus... seriously? Like the majority of strip club patrons needed help in further dehumanizing strippers.

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    The software sounds cool and interesting, but I think it would ultimately be too much of a hassle for many of the reasons mentioned, plus more. Not to say it could never work - doesn't that club GGR have a system similar to this in place for dances? I've only read about it on here.

    Also, I wonder how many men would be willing to make such a large purchase ($500 or so VIP) based solely on a photo?

    At the end of the day, I like to choose my tables. You don't order me, I order you..! lol

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    ^^ Yeah I was gonna say it reminds me of GGR, where you pick your dancer ahead of time.

    I like the idea, but I think you should have to pre-pay for at least a $10 tip or something to "summon" a girl - I'd be pissed if I got called down and the guy said never mind.

    And I don't like the social networking bit. Is that mandatory? Even a silhouette is too much for me to have on the web.
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    Um if your still working at the same club when you use to post here, they always say other clubs willfollow suit with what they do etc....they still thing their in the 90's when their franchises ruled the strip club industry. I've worked at 10 clubs alone this yeasr and they aren't doing it at any( all were chain clubs) I worked. As for the concept. It's stupid. Were not cam girls and most men want to meet a girl, see her personality and if they click and mostly want to be soldto spend big bucks. In big clubs (2 story) I've had customers see me and get a bouncer to get me and spend big but this was Dallas and Chicago in clubs that have 60-100 girls and are high volume. Imo if your still at the same club that club is way to small and lacks the girls for something like that. It would be pok if the guy immediately purchased a high dolklar vip and you where guaranteed money if you left someone you were sitting with but again there are no high dollar vips there it's just stupid imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addison View Post

    Also, I wonder how many men would be willing to make such a large purchase ($500 or so VIP) based solely on a photo?

    At the end of the day, I like to choose my tables. You don't order me, I order you..! lol
    ^The VIP purchases are booked ahead of time online, and while maybe some customers will book a VIP prior to meeting a girl, I think this service is primarily for those who have already established a regular dancer/client relationship. And yes, I agree! That was another thing that I'm not too fond of... I just think of all of the bachelor parties that I happily avoid on the weekends in favor of the solo, older customer.


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    And I don't like the social networking bit. Is that mandatory? Even a silhouette is too much for me to have on the web.
    I'm not sure if it is mandatory or not, but I inferred that it is. I wouldn't mind a silhouette -- it's literally just a stock photo of a shadow with your stage name. You could be anybody.


    I was curious what girls here would have to say about it, because the consensus amongst most girls at the meeting was that they were pretty excited for it - I was in the "iffy" minority. Honestly, I would like it if the tablets were restricted to the bottle service/VIP sections -- because our club has a "no approach" rule for those areas. So basically as it is now the VIP host/ess just picks girls to go to tables, rather than the customers picking for themselves. The fact that they may try and implement it on the floor as well is a little ridiculous to me.
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    Geez. Just woke up sorry about all the typos. Also I think that cheapo regulars may utilize this to get girls to come over to them only to waste their time and do it all night as a way to amuse theirselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    Um if your still working at the same club when you use to post here, they always say other clubs willfollow suit with what they do etc....they still thing their in the 90's when their franchises ruled the strip club industry. I've worked at 10 clubs alone this yeasr and they aren't doing it at any( all were chain clubs) I worked. As for the concept. It's stupid. Were not cam girls and most men want to meet a girl, see her personality and if they click and mostly want to be soldto spend big bucks. In big clubs (2 story) I've had customers see me and get a bouncer to get me and spend big but this was Dallas and Chicago in clubs that have 60-100 girls and are high volume. Imo if your still at the same club that club is way to small and lacks the girls for something like that. It would be pok if the guy immediately purchased a high dolklar vip and you where guaranteed money if you left someone you were sitting with but again there are no high dollar vips there it's just stupid imo.
    ^The company that owns the technology is completely independent of the company that owns the club, sorry if that wasn't clear. And yes, it is the same club. They are marketing it in other areas of the US as well, but I also mentioned they are using my club as a beta, so I wouldn't expect you to have seen it anywhere else. I'm not sure how successful it will be, though. I feel like most other club owners and managers will recognize how much of a headache it will be and write it off as a waste of time.

    Agreed, I would prefer it if we were guaranteed money. We do get some high dollar customers (not as many as bigger clubs in bigger cities), and usually those customers already have regular girls. For this reason, I kind of like the tablet, because it may encourage them to branch out. It would probably make me uneasy if I had a lot of good regulars right now, but I haven't really been dancing a lot at all this summer, so I've lost the regulars I used to have in the winter/spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    Geez. Just woke up sorry about all the typos. Also I think that cheapo regulars may utilize this to get girls to come over to them only to waste their time and do it all night as a way to amuse theirselves.
    Definitely true -- we can walk away at any time though, of course. It's not like we're obligated to stay if they're not spending.

    I'm not sure if it's mandatory or not, but the reason they have our "favorite drink" on the profile is to encourage the customer to order it for us. So this may just be a whole attempt at spiking liquor sales, which is pretty irritating.

    Another thing I just realized - the GM said something about having our drink ordered and waiting for us when we get to the table. As someone who doesn't leave their drink unattended at the club, that's a little frustrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by summerbre View Post
    Definitely true -- we can walk away at any time though, of course. It's not like we're obligated to stay if they're not spending.

    I'm not sure if it's mandatory or not, but the reason they have our "favorite drink" on the profile is to encourage the customer to order it for us. So this may just be a whole attempt at spiking liquor sales, which is pretty irritating.

    Another thing I just realized - the GM said something about having our drink ordered and waiting for us when we get to the table. As someone who doesn't leave their drink unattended at the club, that's a little frustrating.
    Yeah didn't you say this was put out by the liquor company? Like the club I've been working this summer has a lot of regualars that don't spend and are complete time wasters until you fund out and they're there like 3-4 days a week. I could just see one of these fucktards calling me away from a spending customer to waste my time. I mean what if your sitting with a guy and working on closing the sale are you going to be obliged to just leave because you aren't dancing or in vip? I'd be pissed if that were the case cuz I was picturing this one specific guy at this club who tries to waste my time any chance he gets doing this to get me over there when I specifically try to avoid him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    Yeah didn't you say this was put out by the liquor company? Like the club I've been working this summer has a lot of regualars that don't spend and are complete time wasters until you fund out and they're there like 3-4 days a week. I could just see one of these fucktards calling me away from a spending customer to waste my time. I mean what if your sitting with a guy and working on closing the sale are you going to be obliged to just leave because you aren't dancing or in vip? I'd be pissed if that were the case cuz I was picturing this one specific guy at this club who tries to waste my time any chance he gets doing this to get me over there when I specifically try to avoid him.
    It's sponsored by liquor companies, I guess. No one said which ones, but that's the whole point of putting the dancer's "favorite drink" on the tablet.

    And yes, that would be annoying! I'm not sure how it will work in terms of obligation, but for something like that, I really doubt anyone would force you to sit with a customer. I'm hoping, as this pans out, it ends up being strictly a bottle service/VIP feature for groups and parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by summerbre View Post
    It's sponsored by liquor companies, I guess. No one said which ones, but that's the whole point of putting the dancer's "favorite drink" on the tablet.

    And yes, that would be annoying! I'm not sure how it will work in terms of obligation, but for something like that, I really doubt anyone would force you to sit with a customer. I'm hoping, as this pans out, it ends up being strictly a bottle service/VIP feature for groups and parties.
    I think it might be useful if you were able to turn down tables that requested you but otherwise this sounds like a mess. do you really get to choose your own drink? I only drink champagne at work and I would be pissed if everyone was ordering tequila sunrises for me because patron was the sponsor! especially in big clubs this might be useful because it can be hard to find the girl you want and a lot of guys are way too timid to get up and walk across the room. I just had a customer last week who saw me onstage and apparently followedm around for 45 min trying to get a chance to talk to me but since I was doing my thing I didnt notice him, anyway he was finally able to flag me down and got an hr immediately. so yeah I can see how this would def be useful but only if we could reject requests. cuz I could def see a table I talked to earlier requesting me later just to ask me to go partying with them later or ask for the name of the restaurant I recommended or just harass me more. fuck that!

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    Sounds like a for sure way to get your time wasted unless it was a minimum $20 tip for coming over, I wouldn't do it.

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    I can see how a liquor company would brain storm this idea.. But I think it would be a flop in the club. Even in best case scenario where it is used by bottle service / VIP areas, I can't see people wanting to fiddle with an ipad when they have hot girls actually walking around. I mean, it could take a half an hour just to flip through 50 girls profiles. Furthermore, I think this would hurt the hosts tips, as now they're not the one the customer can thank for bringing over a girl.

    The social media aspect, well that's just the stupidest thing ever. My biggest spenders are often married or in relationships and keep a very professional image. No way would these guys want to be associated with a stripper social site.

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    I really LOVE this idea, but I think it needs to be tweaked in order to best serve the dancers and not create a huge headache for dancers and waitstaff alike. The first thing I would do would be to tweak the app so that it can be accessed from each dancer's personal smartphone as well as the tablets. You would have to log in, kind of like facebook, and from there you could post your OWN photos, schedule, and anything else you'd like to divulge. You would be able to control your own "available" and "unavailable" status (if I have no customers lined up and I'm about to go on stage I'd sure as hell hope to be listed as "available" so that someone will see me, and page me to come over right after my set ideally). Giving the dancers control over their profiles allows the girls to post as much or as little information about themselves as they wish for discretion (goes on to photos as well--I would be blurring out my face, though the customers can't steal the tablets, who's to stop them from snapping a picture of you on the tablet with their own phone?) Great idea, but like many great ideas, still needs some adjustments in the beginning!
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    I love the idea of someone being able to "book" with you ahead of time...except that as other have said, this would basically be if you already had a rapport....and if that is the case, why don't they already have your contact info so they can "book" with you directly??

    Other than that - yeah, just complicated. And as someone who relies heavily on my personality (pretty face, but all natural, a little alternative looking, and not super skinny/huge boobed) and who does NOT photograph well, I would hate the idea that the guys are choosing the girls based on a photo. YUCK! Along with all the practical complications that have already been mentioned.
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    Bad idea! Club owners should take my class called "amy's guide to club owners not doing stupid shit"

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    I would leave any club that started doing this in a hot second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odette View Post
    (goes on to photos as well--I would be blurring out my face, though the customers can't steal the tablets, who's to stop them from snapping a picture of you on the tablet with their own phone?)
    ^Ughhhh I didn't even think of that!! This freaks me out, esp. since I had a narrowly escaped run-in with an acquaintance recently.

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    as someone who relies heavily on my personality (pretty face, but all natural, a little alternative looking, and not super skinny/huge boobed) and who does NOT photograph well, I would hate the idea that the guys are choosing the girls based on a photo.
    You're correct about this setup shifting emphasis away from personality / charisma / convo skills and toward physical appearance. I have worked in a few clubs that had implemented lower tech versions of the same thing. Fortunately I had the huge boobs to do well under those setups.

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    So, the one glaring issue I see here is I take it large clubs (50+ dancers) will have to utilize multiple display pages. So there has to be a way to determine who shows up first (let's face it once someone has been drinking or is out trying to have fun they aren't going to want to analyze all 50+ dancers, it's like Google, they will go with the options on the first page); this could be a huge advantage/disadvantage, but also I wonder how it would be determined as to placement on the "menu"; probably management will implement the idea that if you want to be on the first page you pay extra on your house fee LOL - gosh I shouldn't put out such thoughts, but seriously....how many guys are going to have the patience to analyze 50-100 girls on multiple pages, or how many will just pick their favorite from page 1? LOL.
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    ^You girls are mentioning so many problems that I didn't even think of!

    We are launching them this weekend, either tonight or tomorrow. We took pictures last week. 3 out of 5 of mine sucked, and we took them in a storage room with no AC - it was like 100 degrees back there, I couldn't be bothered to retake them because within 5 minutes my makeup was sweating off and I just wanted to go work. So, yeah, I'm totally thrilled for this!
    “The irony of commitment is that it's deeply liberating -- in work, in play, in love. The act frees you from the tyranny of your internal critic, from the fear that likes to dress itself up and parade around like rational hesitation. To commit is to remove your head as the barrier to your life.”
    - Anne Morris

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