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    Tomorrow ill have to go buy ANOTHER c920. This will be my forth.
    Im very active in shows, and it gets carried around allot, So i guess i have more
    then normal wear on a webcam then the average Joe.

    I was planning on getting a new one and replacing this one in the new box, and returning it. (This one is 4 months old so i feel no guilt).
    Because last time, they wouldnt give my me money back, Because its a "PC" Product, and they carrie to many viruses.

    I was thinking of upgrading, So i was looking up cam comparisons.
    I already have the 9000, And its in working condition, But i dont like the quality.
    But i was SURE it would have made the list. It didnt.

    Heres the chart, Whatcha think?

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    Default Re: Cam comparison.

    Charts like that are pretty much useless for us I think. Those reviewers don't consider our needs.

    I'd be more inclined to listen to the opinions of cam hosts. Do a SW search for webcams and weigh all the info like that.


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    They will probably check the codes on the cam tag, so you can't return a used one in the new box. I tried that once, got caught, and was really embarrassed. You should be able to get your money back from Logitech tho.

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    I don't understand how a web cam can get a virus, that just doesn't make sense to me.

    If you are breaking them only 4 months in, then buy it at best buy & get the extended guarantee. Also check with your credit card company policy about the automatic warranty most offer when you purchase things on it.

    Due to the automatic focus on the face or head with the c920 & my big boobs it was always fuzzy when I cammed. No way to go into the settings and turn that off. I have a logetic orbitz, it did cost me $200 but I love it & it has lasted me 2 years so far. I also move mine around a lot & drop it. Total klutz here, yet it still works.

    Those consumer reports don't work for me. Rarely do they put the equipment through the kind of heavy usage we cam girls do. And I find most of the testimonials to be BS. especially since the same exact testimonials will be on the Walmart , best buy & amazon sites.

    I've seen threads on camming equipment on this site before so you the search thing.

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    Default Re: Cam comparison.

    ^^^ you might also want to consider moving away from 'consumer grade' webcams toward professional stuff ...

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    Default Re: Cam comparison.

    A webcam can't get a virus.

    If you buy them directly from Logitech.com they are under either 1 or 2 year warranty and you can get them replaced for free if they break on you.







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    Wow I didn't know that! Thanks so much Hayden. I myself did the comparison between 2 cams I was deciding on they had almost identical features except for price. I did this on Amazon, also on Logitech's site.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ you might also want to consider moving away from 'consumer grade' webcams toward professional stuff ...

    http://en.ids-imaging.com/store/prod...s/ueye-cp.html

    http://ww2.ptgrey.com/USB3/Flea3

    http://www.mightexsystems.com/family...egories_id=253
    Do you use any of these? I don't know much about cameras but I do know the logitech c920 is 15 mp and these are much less. Idk if that's the most important thing but. Like I said I am pretty clueless about these professional cams.
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    Most ladies use the c290 but like others said maybe invest in a different type of cam. You can always use an HD video camera as a webcam or even a surveillance camera. Here's a good post from Bella:
    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellini View Post
    I've gone through so many webcams!

    I've used a video camera as a webcam, on a tripod, then on a rotating tripod head. The tripod doesn't give you enough flexibility for the annoyance of using a tripod. And those pan/tilt tripod heads wear out REALLY quickly.

    I've used the Sony EVI-100. It was always my ultimate web cam. I watched other models who used them for months salivating;p It was a bitch to set up when I got it. But I figured it out.

    The quality is great for doing web cam shows. But the quality isn't up to scratch if you are recording video. It doesn't have that clear HD quality. Even though the logitech cameras aren't recording at TRUE HD, the recording quality is better with the logitech HD cams than the Sony EVI-100. So keep that in mind if you are thinking of shooting self-shot content.

    So I saw the Sony EVI HD1 and eventually found a second hand one on ebay for a fraction of the price. Problem is it isn't compatible with the FME. It might be compatible with the new version of the FME, I need to test that. I use something called WireCast to broadcast on Streamate, Babe Chat, and Your Daily Cams.

    But WireCast was an additional cost. And it won't work on a site like MFC or a site using a web based flash broadcasting system. And yes you have to deal with wires and an external microphone.

    I have multiple logitech webcams also, so I use those if I want to do something downstairs.

    I'm a geek though and all those hurdles were fun for me to figure out;p I'll be renovating my office in the new year and it's going to be renovated around that Sony EVI HD1 to free me from all those damn wires!

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    Do you use any of these? I don't know much about cameras but I do know the logitech c920 is 15 mp and these are much less. Idk if that's the most important thing but
    Yes I have an early version of the Point Grey Flea 3 with 1.3 megapixel 1320 x 1080 resolution a.k.a. standard aspect ratio 1080p HD, running via USB 3.0 . I also use a Nikon / Nikkor zoom lens with the camera that was left over from my modeling days ( when film was still used LOL ). Point Grey and other 'professional' digital camera suppliers now have 3.1 megapixel and even higher resolution versions out as well.


    As far as megapixels go for camming, 1080p WideScreen HD corresponds to 1920 wide x 1080 high video frames, which is equivalent to 2.1 megapixels. And as stated above standard aspect ratio 1080p HD resolution is the equivalent of 1.3 megapixels. Thus the real issue with creating a HD webcam video stream is NOT the ability of the camera to resolve an image into 1920 x 1080 = 2.1 megapixel HD versus say a future 3840 x 2160 = 8.3 megapixel '4K' UHD versus 7860 x 3820 = 33.1 megapixel '8K' UHD. Maybe it will be 5-10 years from now, but in the meantime available internet access speeds and available home computer / webcam host computer processing speeds have their 'hands full' with 1080p HD.

    The real issue is being able to transfer 15 or 24 or 30 or 60 of those 1920 x 1080 pixel video frames from the camera to your computer, 'crunch' them, and retransmit them to a webcam host, every second. This is where the USB 2.0 capable transfer speeds of most of the 'consumer' cameras runs into trouble. The data transfer capability of typical USB 2.0 only allows for the 'raw' transfer of 720 x 480 worth of video resolution at about 25 frames per second no matter what resolution the camera is capable of capturing. Attempting to cram even 1320 x 1080 HD frames through a USB 2.0 port typically causes the frames per second to drop like a stone to the point were webcam customers complain.

    USB 3.0, FireWire, ThunderBolt etc. allow for significantly higher data transfer rates, which WILL allow 1080p HD video frames to be transferred at a rate of 30+ frames per second. However, none of the 'consumer' grade digital cameras support these higher speed protocols.

    As a side note, the Logitech C920 attempts to minimize the bandwidth limitation of USB 2.0 by performing the video 'crunching' right in the camera so that already compressed video frames can be transferred via the USB 2.0 port instead of raw video data. The plus side is that the compressed video frames only require about half the data that an equal number of raw video frames contain, so that twice as many of them can be sent per second. The minus side is that the video compression hardware in the camera is pre-programmed for a certain compression type, a certain compression ratio, a certain color profile etc., which cannot be changed ... and with those pre-programmed values not necessarily being optimally set for the needs of webcam video.

    I would also add for the benefit of newest SW readers that the legendary Sony EVI 100 is an ANALOG camera. Thus using it for webcam also involves an analog to digital video capture card being added between the camera and the computer. Video capture cards which plug into a desktop computer slot can transfer video data at the full speed of the computer's internal data bus. It was this combination that gave the EVI 100 its legendary status. But video capture cards which must be connected via a port are limited by the maximum transfer rate that the port can handle. Thus attempting to use an EVI 100, or any other analog camera or camcorder, with a video capture device that connects via a USB 2.0 will NOT produce the same legendary results.

    Last tidbit is the fact that the 'professional' digital cameras, like the best analog cameras, allow for use of a 'professional quality' lens. Most of the 'consumer' grade digital cameras uses lenses that are far from 'professional' grade. A couple of the 'consumer' grade cameras, like the upscale LogiTechs, at least now use a somewhat decent quality lens.


    On the flip side, any 'professional' quality solution, whether it is a USB 3.0 compatible digital camera or a high quality analog camera and video capture card, is going to set you back something approaching $1000 by the time you buy the camera, the lens, and the accessories. You can afford to 'trash' quite a few 'consumer' quality webcams for the same price. But on the flip side of the flip side, being able to transmit a 'professional' quality image at a true 1080p HD resolution and frame rate is likely to attract webcam customers that you might not have gotten otherwise.
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    from that chart I only have experience with the c615 and c920 logitech, both mount on a tripod. these comparison charts give a generally idea then its a matter of getting one and see how it works for you and camming needs, plus you also have to see how it fits into your set up. I love my logitech c615 but for the way I cam I need a camcorder with a remote control.
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