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    Default Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    Well, this is yet another vague option for me to try and get myself out of my current financial situation.

    I joined a SD site the other day and so far have had 3 expressions of interest. One of the pictures showed an older man (obviously), standing in a very small room with a refrigerator next to a bookcase. And ok...I don't judge anyone, but...if this man really is wealthy, WHY does his house look so bad!?!?!?!?

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    needle in the haystack with those sites - most are looking for cheap sex from girls who are iin denial that they are technically escorting and dont know to charge more - anywho - a few ladies have said they have had success on them but it was not an instant pay off - try some upscale hang outs in your city for quicker results and maybe you can find a SD on the sites in the meantime - have you searched the threads here? this has been discussed a gazillion times so you should be able to find a lot of threads to read to help you

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    You don't, and the reality is that they often aren't.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    That guy is a joke daddy= He's not a splenda daddy, sugar daddy. He's just old enough to be your daddy's daddy and also has no money at all. With this guy he'll talk you to death and try to avoid bringing up the "monetary coversation". If you push the issue he'll probably turn nasty.

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    That’s the thing, you can’t. Me personally I have never found a true sugardaddy off any of the sugardaddy sites. Most of mine were already clients or men I found through networking which seems to be the better option. If I were you I wouldn't waste my time on those lame ass sites just try get in good with the guys who golf and host yacht parties these are the type of guys that will treat right.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    The truth about "Seeking Arrangements", and other SD/SB sites is this:


    The numbers don't work out in anyone's favor. The guys, who are looking for cheaper sex, are inundate by numerous women looking for the lottery ticket that is the well heeled guy who will "take care of them" paying them ridiculous amounts of money for their company alone.


    The women are inundated with men who don't have big money and want girl-friend/mistress quality sex without the same cash outlay that usually requires.


    As each group has unreasonable expectations the recipe is one for disappointment. Especially for the women.


    The guys have it a bit easier IF they have some game and the time to sift though all the Ladies who have limited experience and can be persuaded to provide more for less, since they don't know the true value of what they bring to the table.


    The truth is that REAL rich guys wouldn't have anything to do with a sugar baby site. They have their own resources that operate by word of mouth.
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    I think there are agencies out there that do introductions with wealthy men if you're looking for a sugar daddy? I can't recommend any though since I've never been with an agency. I can see that being an option compared to sugar daddy sites.

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    Yes...this is all very true.

    I have been on that site for 2 weeks or something I think, and I haven't initiated contact with anyone. I've received 11 emails from various men though. One of them wrote simply "Darling girl...I am staying in a penthouse suite in your area next week. Meet me?" I mean...am I an escort now?!

    I've had a few quite older men (65+) who say their net worth is over $1 million but...the pictures...they just don't match up. One as I said, has his fridge in his living room. lol. And another was wearing what appeared to be a Kmart shirt. HELLO!!?

    Anyway, you're exactly right about the disappointment potential here. I personally want a rich guy who is after companionship and no sex. lol. HAH!!!!!!! They're after a girl who doesn't need much monetary upkeep and who is willing to have regular and enjoyable sex. DOUBLE HAH!!!!!!

    I'm taking my profile off. I had a nice normal pic of me smiling on it and I'm just not comfortable showing myself there anymore.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    True enough, yeah. And no, I'm not an escort, and it's not any kind of negative thing to be one of course, but I don't WANT to be one simply because I just can't have sex with anyone I'm not in love with and don't trust 100%. That's just me. Everything scares me pretty much, especially sex. lol

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    Hey girl you do what you’re comfortable with but I am telling you the easiest and probably the most effective way to land a true-blue sugar daddy is to find out where all the rich hang outs are in your town or any surrounding areas and make yourself available. It’s not always in the bars as lots of wealthy, affluent men love to hang out at other places and do things like play golf (duh), go horseback riding, etc. If there are any upscale shopping centers in your town be sure to try and go to them every once in a while, hell even a trip to a grocery store on the right side of town won’t hurt. That’s how one lady I used to know found her sugar daddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RosesForMyLove View Post
    Hey girl you do what you’re comfortable with but I am telling you the easiest and probably the most effective way to land a true-blue sugar daddy is to find out where all the rich hang outs are in your town or any surrounding areas and make yourself available. It’s not always in the bars as lots of wealthy, affluent men love to hang out at other places and do things like play golf (duh), go horseback riding, etc. If there are any upscale shopping centers in your town be sure to try and go to them every once in a while, hell even a trip to a grocery store on the right side of town won’t hurt. That’s how one lady I used to know found her sugar daddy.
    wealthy guys shop thru the week when working people are - well - working - lunch time in their hang outs has worked well for me in the past - marina's - racetracks if you are near one - coffee shops in affluent areas

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    not to sound picky or snotty but 1 million is really not that much money today and at some point most guys are looking for sex - not all but most - some truly wealthy guys are happy to fork over money to arm candy - real arm candy - not to say you are not as i dont know you - but they are looking for well above average - I think your chances are better if you try some of the other mentioned tactics above rather than the SD ( used loosely ) sites and your chances are diminished if sex is off the table - not impossible but diminished - IMHO


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    Yes...this is all very true.

    I have been on that site for 2 weeks or something I think, and I haven't initiated contact with anyone. I've received 11 emails from various men though. One of them wrote simply "Darling girl...I am staying in a penthouse suite in your area next week. Meet me?" I mean...am I an escort now?!

    I've had a few quite older men (65+) who say their net worth is over $1 million but...the pictures...they just don't match up. One as I said, has his fridge in his living room. lol. And another was wearing what appeared to be a Kmart shirt. HELLO!!?

    Anyway, you're exactly right about the disappointment potential here. I personally want a rich guy who is after companionship and no sex. lol. HAH!!!!!!! They're after a girl who doesn't need much monetary upkeep and who is willing to have regular and enjoyable sex. DOUBLE HAH!!!!!!

    I'm taking my profile off. I had a nice normal pic of me smiling on it and I'm just not comfortable showing myself there anymore.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    This is from SA blog. It's about how you should not act as a sugar baby.....

    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/b...ty-sugar-baby/

    funny, that article sounds like the encounters you all had with the men.

    it just seems childish and delusional to me. It's not a relationship, but it's not escorting.....so what is it? What exactly do these men expect?
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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    What I realized is that even men that are wealthy don't offer much in allowance. If he's making 1million a year or 150K you'll receive exactly the same offer. The biggest hurdle is their ego. They struggle with "is she really into me" or is "it all about the money?' Because of this annoying ego problem many test women and see whoever excepts the scraps without complaint may just receive more.I personally don't have the luxury of playing the "wait game" because that's way too exhausting. If you can sleep with at the very least 3 SDs and find a way to juggle them all plus give them that "you're the only one vibe" you'll probably make out like a bandit. The average SD offers no more than $1500 a month so if you want 3K or more per month it's likely you'll have to date 3 of them. Many SBs will wait around holding out for that 3k a month daddy but most will not materialize.

    The other vast majority of men you'll encounter already see escorts ranging from $250-$600 per hr. If that's what he's spending per hour his goal is to find a way to get as close to the lower amount of that hourly rate but receive 4 or more hours out of a SB. I'm not into the married men as I feel they ask for too much as far as unprotected sex etc. Still married men have less time to worry about what you're doing especially if you want another SD. If you can get a $500 per meet with a married man and see him 3-4 times a month then you're roughly at 2k. Squeeze in another and you've exceeded that 3k a month goal.

    Another issue is that you can't rely on sugar. Just look at the US whatever site. I can't think of the name right off hand but many of those men are trying to get SBs for $160 $180 one off deals. When I look at backpage and eros I can figure out where these men shop for escorts. It's surely not Humpx nor is it eros. They are backpage clisters where the hunt for a deal is about feeling better about paying a woman to be with them. They share details, pictures so that they don't end sleeping with the same SBs. This is more of a money blocker as they'll blacklist you to any other potentials.

    Strangely I didn't realize so many men had hangups with paying for an escort. I mean the length to which these men go to stalk and steak out women just to shave a few dollars off seems pathetic. I suppose their behavior is similar to me shopping for good deals in make-up but still that's make up not people.

    There's also the completely broke that are looking for love in the wrong place and last is the I'm here to regular date women that wouldn't give me the time of day on Match or OKcupid. This last group is a real problem as they tend to lie just to dupe the 18-21 crowd into unprotected free sex or worst rape. There have been a few blogs out there where men have clearly violated a SBs boundaries but to save their ass they contact her the next day to confirm that she'll receive her allowance and that she had a good time. Once she agrees with "I did too" she automatically protects him from being arrested for rape. He never provides the allowance and she sits looking like a fool.. He'll keep in contact with her for a few more days and then do his disappearing act.

    What is probably going to happen soon is one of these sites will be set up for a bust because the escort rates for sugar dates seems to lower with each and every contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_lameer View Post
    Well, this is yet another vague option for me to try and get myself out of my current financial situation.

    I joined a SD site the other day and so far have had 3 expressions of interest. One of the pictures showed an older man (obviously), standing in a very small room with a refrigerator next to a bookcase. And ok...I don't judge anyone, but...if this man really is wealthy, WHY does his house look so bad!?!?!?!?
    You may not be able to tell if a guy is a multimillionaire but you can tell if he at least has disposable income. You need to pretend to have an interest in cars or watches. Many wealthy guys will have a daily driver that just a regular Lexus, Mercedes, BMW but often they have "fun" cars as well. Guys in general love to talk about cars. Get him talking and ask him to bring one of his favorites to your first date. If he shows up with an exotic you at least know he has money to spend. If he's not into cars watches are a great one as well. Tell him that your uncle owns a jewelry store and he got you interested in watches. The same thing, ask him to show off one of his better ones for you. He either shows up with a high-end Rolex, Petek, Hublot (if he's young) etc. and you'll know. This can work for yachts or jets. Just get him talking about what he likes to do and he'll most likely mention that he loves taking his boat out.

    What I realized is that even men that are wealthy don't offer much in allowance. If he's making 1million a year or 150K you'll receive exactly the same offer. The biggest hurdle is their ego.
    As the saying goes, if it was easy everyone would do it. You're right about it being ego based. It's also based on competition. Remember that for every guy in the top 0.1% of wealth, there are many women (and men) that would love to separate him from it. If another women will be with him for $1,500 a month then how could you convince him to spend $10,000 a month? Shouldn't you expect him to initially offer what the other girls are asking for? That's where the ego comes in. If he has a choice between someone that wants $1,500 a month and is in it only for the $$$ and a girl that really "loves" him he'll pick the second one. Now if the girl that "loves" him has bills that need paying, he'd be willing to help her with those bills. Even if the bills end up being a car, apartment rent, tuition, spending money, LV bags, etc. The difference in money between $1,500 a month and $20,000 a month isn't relevant if you're worth 8-9 figures. If you fall for someone and you think they love you as well, money is no object. Don't underestimate the power of ego and self-delusion. Of course, this is just my opinion.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    I haven't had any success from those websites AT ALL I totally agree with the person above who said you just have to get out there and meet the right people. Also in my opinion the most successful, wealthy men aren't going to want to want to post their picture and their identity on a sugar daddy website anyways, they usually have a career and reputation to uphold and that's just not a good look.

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    Ick.

    I don't like sugar daddy sites. The truth is, they go on that site for the title. "Oh, I'm a sugar daddy." In reality, they aren't rich. They may be "well off," but not rich because rich men have other means to find "trophy girls" rather than look on a site like that. the guys that go on there want pretty girls to fuck them for cheap. It's basically escorting. If you want a sugar daddy, be prepared to have sex for money. Hard truth.

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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    I've never tried those sites because they weren't around when I had sugar daddies. I did it the old fashioned way, which is probably best for your intentions. One was my boss who knew me well enough to know that I didn't have casual sex, and that I had a boyfriend at the time, and about sexual harassment in the workplace, so he never brought up the subject of sex. He probably hoped something would eventually happen after I left the job but I ended up moving out of state & our communication eventually fizzled out over time.
    The others were customers I met at different jobs. One man who spent a lot of time at the country club where I was a waitress began requesting me and striking up conversations. Again I had a boyfriend but he still wanted to spend time with me and help me out so sex never came up until it finally did and then it ended. The third time I was working at a coffee shop in a wealthy area, a regular customer who chatted with me daily saw me ride my bike to work every day and wanted to buy me a car, and some nice clothes, etc. because he liked me & thought I deserved nice things.
    I think the main reason these men were so generous with me was because I talked to them out of genuine interest, not because I expected anything. They were on the periphery of my world and they offered to become a more real part of it by taking on a caretaker role in my like. I never expected anything & I was always grateful.
    One of my closest friends met a man in a Vegas night club last year. They chatted, laughed & exchanged numbers then said good night. The next weekend he flew his plane to California to see her. Clearly he thought she was something special. They went on dates all weekend & when he found out that she had just quit stripping to move back home & start a new life he offered to help her out by paying her rent & depositing money in her account each month. This escalated to him paying her more not to get a new job so she could travel with him on his business trips. Eventually he wanted her to move to Texas to be closer to him so he bought her a house and a pilates studio so she would feel safe having a business & a home to fall back on if things didn't work out. This was more of a mistress situation than innocent platonic sugar baby, but she only did what she wanted to do with him.
    I think the sugar daddy sites just attract the worst of both sides. It's okay to be honest that each party has something different to offer, but I think it can only work out well if you both actually like each other, and that's so much easier to find out if you meet in person under normal circumstances. Just my opinion, but it seems to me that if you can just be a really nice person (and attractive, let's not be naive) and surround yourself with wealthy people then it's inevitable you'll meet someone who enjoys your company so much that they'll be happy to use their success to make your life a little easier.
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    I've given up on the websites. All of my long-term sugar babies have been when we met normally. The ones that I met from websites were looking for short-term (often hourly) arrangements. I agree it's better to find someone offline.

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    Stay away from all Sugar Daddy websites, they are the biggest scams! Real sugar daddies dont call themselves sugar daddies! and they dont meet girls online, only losers do that (sorry, its the truth!). Honestly, the best place to meet them is at strip clubs. The best sugar daddy I ever had was a regular of mine at the club I worked at, and he eventually became my SD for almost 2 years. You can also meet them in upscale places, I was friends with a girl who met hers while shopping at a Christian Louboutin store lol.

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    You dont. Its not that hard to lie hence why I never narrow my search based on income. Anyway, its not what a man has, its what he's willing to give you. You got lowly truck drivers who come out the pockets for a girl and real estate tycoons who won't even tip.

    But I usually look at the background. Does the house seem big or cramped? What are the quality of his clothes in the pics? His watch? Glasses? Bleached teeth (usually a trait of the super rich) etc.. What I ignore are posing in front of luxury cars. I find it tacky even if its legit. If he is in the car, that more believable. A private jet? hell yeah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    But I usually look at the background. Does the house seem big or cramped? What are the quality of his clothes in the pics? His watch? Glasses? Bleached teeth (usually a trait of the super rich) etc.. What I ignore are posing in front of luxury cars. I find it tacky even if its legit. If he is in the car, that more believable. A private jet? hell yeah!
    IMHO, quality of clothes doesn't always give it away. Watches most definitely. I've never heard about bleached teeth being a trait of the super rich, we'll have to agree to disagree on that. Owning exotic cars sometimes, other times it a rare antique car that's more interesting.

    I agree 100% about the private jet. That's an easy way to tell. It normally costs over 1M a year to run a flight department for a private jet. That's in addition to the cost of the jet and depreciation. Not all wealthy people own jets, but people that own jets are wealthy. It's also very easy to tell that the guy actually owns the jet and isn't just doing a charter.
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    Default Re: Sugar Daddy sites...how do you know the men really are wealthy?

    Some of the very wealthy are also very careful and picky about how they go about their things. Last year, I encountered a LOBBYIST (also retired Army Colonel) on SA. At first, he sounded like the perfect SD, but he had one big flaw; he was telling me he wanted to hire a private investigator to know about me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    But I usually look at the background. Does the house seem big or cramped? What are the quality of his clothes in the pics? His watch? Glasses? Bleached teeth (usually a trait of the super rich) etc..
    I have wealthy relatives who lead quite homely lives (regular homes, average cars, etc). They rather spend their money in things like traveling or dinning out often than with "keeping up with the Jones". Using that as a measure of wealth is rather shallow and not always accurate. They might be a real estate agent or jeweler.





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    Quote Originally Posted by cherryblossomsinspring View Post
    What I realized is that even men that are wealthy don't offer much in allowance. If he's making 1million a year or 150K you'll receive exactly the same offer. The biggest hurdle is their ego. They struggle with "is she really into me" or is "it all about the money?' Because of this annoying ego problem many test women and see whoever excepts the scraps without complaint may just receive more.I personally don't have the luxury of playing the "wait game" because that's way too exhausting. If you can sleep with at the very least 3 SDs and find a way to juggle them all plus give them that "you're the only one vibe" you'll probably make out like a bandit. The average SD offers no more than $1500 a month so if you want 3K or more per month it's likely you'll have to date 3 of them. Many SBs will wait around holding out for that 3k a month daddy but most will not materialize.
    The why of it is this: Any actual self made man didn't get rich by being stupid. They know the market they are operating in because they have done their homework. They are going to offer going rates for services. Slightly above if they want the top 10%, but they will expect that 10% to perform at a premium that makes the additional worth the outlay. It's not as much ego as you may expect. It is simply an approach to doing business, and they consider this business and approach it as such.

    Sure, you might find a 50 something trust fund baby who never had to work to make his money, and thus has no idea of the value of a dollar, who is bored with his trophy wife and now wants a trophy sugar baby. You can also win the lottery. Like I said, those guys have an inhouse network that works offline and the only way to plug into that network is to have the means to get introduced to it. Someone mentioned hanging out in the same places they do. That would be a good starting point.

    The other vast majority of men you'll encounter already see escorts ranging from $250-$600 per hr. If that's what he's spending per hour his goal is to find a way to get as close to the lower amount of that hourly rate but receive 4 or more hours out of a SB. I'm not into the married men as I feel they ask for too much as far as unprotected sex etc. Still married men have less time to worry about what you're doing especially if you want another SD. If you can get a $500 per meet with a married man and see him 3-4 times a month then you're roughly at 2k. Squeeze in another and you've exceeded that 3k a month goal.
    I know a lot of those guys. Hell, I'll be honest, I was one of those guys. We go sugar baby because we don't like a phone ringing to tell us the hour is up. We want something that feels a tad more real than rent by the hour. So we look for someone who doesn't "clock watch" on sugar sites. And yes, we do tend to equate "raw" with greater passion and more real... as we both, literally, have more skin in the game. Stupid? Sure. Does it matter that it is stupid among those participating? No. Each has other things on their mind and they aren't paying close enough attention to the particulars.

    Since doing the parties I have less and less to do with play for pay. I know all the players on all sides and I don't necessarily want to be part of it unless something incredibly unique is going on. I've become one truly jaded old hump. {LOL} All I want out of this business now-days is to make money, so I when I am involved it is as someone providing a party atmosphere where "A" can meet "B". I get nothing for the hook-up, if one should occur. I just help throw a party [and we are only do a few a year now-days].
    Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.


    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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