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    Call me cynical, but one of the biggest lies I can remember being told was that the 'Kill em w/ kindness' strategy would actually be effective against the classmates who bullied me. As far as my experience, it doesn't work in school, or in the adult world.

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    I'm gonna go with "You have to go to college to be successful and you're a loser if you don't" as a pretty huge lie.
    It's quite unfortunate that the real losers, as in financial losers, are people that go to college and neither increase their intellectual capacity or obtain real-world job skills. That's four or more years gone, even it was great fun, and for increasing numbers of students, a pile of debt that destroys their ability to be financially secure.

    I also believe one of the biggest implied lies is that studies in the humanities, particularly philosophy, are for pot-smoking slackers that will never be gainfully employed. A heightened understanding of the world around you, complex problem solving and critical thinking skills, and an ability to self examine are all skills that transcend time and increase your quality of life.

    PS: I really did have a professor, the best one I had in school actually, who would not accept papers that did not follow the Turabian handbook to the letter. This, of course, was right before Microsoft graced us with automatic citation management and bibliography creation.

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    I've been hesitant to post in this thread, since I don't want to see it closed prematurely. But here are a couple of aspects which have yet to be touched on ...


    - the 'just world' hypothesis ... . This is embedded in many aspects of public school education, and reaches far beyond the basic 'you have to go to college to be successful' paradigm . It arguably leaves graduates with a mistaken expectation that they will be treated 'fairly' by the legal system, by businesses, by gov't etc.

    - the 'single causation' fallacy ... . This is also embedded in many aspects of public school education, due to the resulting oversimplification allowing a particular topic to be covered quickly. It arguably leaves graduates with a 'willingness' to accept a single well publicized explanation for any given event, and a 'reluctance' to consider that other behind the scenes factors are in play.

    - 'social desirability' bias ... public schools instill this bias, both in the classroom, as well as in the hallways ! It arguably leaves graduates with a propensity to make decisions / responses based on social expectations over factual analysis.


    However, sticking with the thread's main question, the biggest 'lie' perpetuated by public education is the 'discounting' of scientific theories which do not fit into the 'established' views of the officially accepted scientific community. Or, to be more precise, these 'alternate' scientific theories are 'discredited' until the point where the preponderance of scientific evidence or the practical application becomes so overwhelming that it can no longer be denied. Prior to 1906 or so, heavier than air flight was 'discounted' despite the fact that the Wright Flier had actually done it. In my own case, the specific example I encountered while attending public school was Alvarez i.e. dinosaurs were actually killed off by an asteroid collision. Another that is still being discredited is 'cold fusion' ... see
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    also, another 'lie' is arguably at the very heart of higher education ... the belief that it's necessary to attend a formal school in order to get an education

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    (snip)" Yet science and engineering continue to be taught using the ancient system, using well-paid professors and expensive university classrooms to teach physically present students.

    Despite major advances in media technology and the accompanying reduction and sometimes outright elimination of cost, the ancient model of organizing schools has persisted to modern times, with education costs and student debts now spiraling out of control.

    One reason for this persistence may be that tenured professor jobs with six-figure salaries, excellent health insurance, and generous pensions are increasingly rare in the private sector. The academic priesthoods that benefit from the current system have a vast self-interest in perpetuating it no matter what. The ancient practices of oral lectures and costly texts are actively blocking lower cost superior methods. The organizational imperatives of this ancient system are clearly obsolete.

    Why does the old style system still persist even though it is already demonstrably inferior? In addition to the financial disincentives, there is another reason: the current system retains a monopoly on assessing student learning and granting credit for demonstrated accomplishment. The schools are able to do this because they have arranged a monopoly on accreditation. This is ultimately a grant of state power.

    As a result, modern colleges and universities have collectively become a rent-seeking cartel, an alliance of nominally competitive institutions that maintains a highly profitable monopoly of accreditation"(snip)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krill_ View Post
    It's quite unfortunate that the real losers, as in financial losers, are people that go to college and neither increase their intellectual capacity or obtain real-world job skills. That's four or more years gone, even it was great fun, and for increasing numbers of students, a pile of debt that destroys their ability to be financially secure.

    I also believe one of the biggest implied lies is that studies in the humanities, particularly philosophy, are for pot-smoking slackers that will never be gainfully employed. A heightened understanding of the world around you, complex problem solving and critical thinking skills, and an ability to self examine are all skills that transcend time and increase your quality of life.

    PS: I really did have a professor, the best one I had in school actually, who would not accept papers that did not follow the Turabian handbook to the letter. This, of course, was right before Microsoft graced us with automatic citation management and bibliography creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by summerbre View Post
    Great idea for a thread!



    ^I forgot about this, but yes! Also that all checks must be written entirely in cursive. Not necessary!

    I will just add:

    Christopher Columbus thought the world was flat and was setting out to prove that it was round.

    No. Most ship navigators and educated Europeans of that era already knew this - it had been proven like 2,000 years ago, thanks to the Ancient Greeks.

    I may have a few more but I'm worried Eric might find them unsuitable or off topic, so I'll withold.
    Whoa ! Just a moment please. I didn't make the rules for this board. Were it up to me, a LOT of stuff would be permissible that is now verboten i.e. "politics".

    All I asked was that we keep our examples FACT - based and avoid opinionating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odette View Post
    Well 4 is the only one that I can't immediately think of multiple sources to back it up as fact, but since it is I guess a tiny bit debatable, screw it. The others though, are infact lies: all you have to do is look beyond north america, they're two of the most obvious lies that most north american school systems perpetuate, which is pretty much exactly the point of the thread. It is no different to teach children that capitalism benefits people in the developing world and omit the part about the prior destruction to the developing world than it is to teach children that columbus discovered america and to omit the native americans and the vikings...

    6) That pluto was a planet
    7) That modern humans killed off the neanderthals
    If you insist : A LOT of rich folks in this country and elsewhere started off poor. The system that enabled them to become wealthy was capitalism. The same system that has created more wealth and eliminated more poverty than all other systems combined.

    Your other examples are excellent except for the feminism one which I must admit I can't decipher.

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    Schools don't really teach kids about how this country basically committed genocide against the Native Americans. It's probably because they don't want kids to grow up hating the beloved "founding fathers" or America. It's quite diabolical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveHerButton View Post
    1. I do not believe in any organized religion but smug books by atheists-scientist like Richard Dawkins irk me. Umm, guess what, science is based upon faith too, it is just that scientist call them 'assumptions'. How many dimensions are there? what is time? nobody really knows. therefore an equation like "F = M*A" has built in assumptions. Assumptions that whatever is going on in the other dimensions is not measurable and will not impact the dimensions we are most familiar with. That may be a safe assumption but who knows? The point is that rock hard science is built upon faith.

    2. a new 'lie' is that everybody should just start a business and they will be successful. This is just not viable and getting even more difficult as large corporations become even more profitable and learn to become more agile. There is an associated lie about so called 'free trade' but I think Eric has already taken that off the table.
    Hmmm. My problem is that religion and science are two totally different things. Science , real science, relies upon the observable, measurable and provable. Religion is a function of faith - belief in a god you can't see or hear ; an afterlife without a brochure or travel report ; virgin births ; resurrections , reincarnations etc. etc.

    In real science there is continuum from proven certainties on one side all the way over to disproven theories on the other. "Assumptions" are frowned upon in both the "scientific method " and practical usage and application. So on balance , I fail to see how "faith" plays a role a science. Except for "Climate Change" of course. I'm kidding. Just kidding. Let's not go there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krill_ View Post
    It's quite unfortunate that the real losers, as in financial losers, are people that go to college and neither increase their intellectual capacity or obtain real-world job skills. That's four or more years gone, even it was great fun, and for increasing numbers of students, a pile of debt that destroys their ability to be financially secure.

    I also believe one of the biggest implied lies is that studies in the humanities, particularly philosophy, are for pot-smoking slackers that will never be gainfully employed. A heightened understanding of the world around you, complex problem solving and critical thinking skills, and an ability to self examine are all skills that transcend time and increase your quality of life.

    PS: I really did have a professor, the best one I had in school actually, who would not accept papers that did not follow the Turabian handbook to the letter. This, of course, was right before Microsoft graced us with automatic citation management and bibliography creation.

    Yep! For #1, I have a friend who actually failed out of Arizona State and still preaches to our other friends how they will be losers until they go back to school. These friends both did their AA degree and didn't see a point in continuing - their careers of radio DJ and cop don't necessitate them spending $20k on university. I agree with them totally, but it's amazing how every time one doesn't get a job he applies for, it's "I TOLD you, school is the answer!" -eye roll-

    For #2, I don't think it automatically implies you're a pot-smoking slacker (though the majority I see are)... Philosophy makes my head spin, so more power to the people who can keep it all straight... But it is hard to get a job in. My neighbor got dual degrees in history and philosophy and I remember his mother remarking "So he got the two most useless degrees they offered" and sure enough, he's working as an electrician.
    Political science and sociology are the others where it's like "Wtf are you gonna do with that?"

    People put WAY too much stock in college. It's just a racket at this point, especially with the "college experience" crap and making you live in dorms and shit. I'm sick of seeing the stories about people with $100k debt for undergrad and crying about the bank harassing them. I wish it was where only super smart kids went to college and it was mostly paid for in schoarships. Argh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveHerButton View Post
    1. I do not believe in any organized religion but smug books by atheists-scientist like Richard Dawkins irk me. Umm, guess what, science is based upon faith too, it is just that scientist call them 'assumptions'. How many dimensions are there? what is time? nobody really knows. therefore an equation like "F = M*A" has built in assumptions. Assumptions that whatever is going on in the other dimensions is not measurable and will not impact the dimensions we are most familiar with. That may be a safe assumption but who knows? The point is that rock hard science is built upon faith.
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    In real science there is continuum from proven certainties on one side all the way over to disproven theories on the other. "Assumptions" are frowned upon in both the "scientific method " and practical usage and application. So on balance , I fail to see how "faith" plays a role a science. Except for "Climate Change" of course. I'm kidding. Just kidding. Let's not go there.
    When one refers to "assumptions" in science, they're referring to the basic assumptions that allow science to be reliable. Assumptions like: evidence obtained from the natural world can be used to draw conclusions about how it operates. and the natural world behaves in a consistent manner.

    (^Interestingly, those assumptions that we make about the "natural world" completely fail us when it comes to quantum mechanics, because particles do not behave in a manner consistent with the natural world, on a quantum level!)

    So yeah, to some extent, I guess faith is required to perform science. Faith that we're not living in The Matrix, basically.

    And as for climate change, I guess we won't go there, but maybe just read a book about it, or something.
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    Schools don't really teach kids about how this country basically committed genocide against the Native Americans. It's probably because they don't want kids to grow up hating the beloved "founding fathers" or America. It's quite diabolical.



    Is that still true ? I'm asking because it's been so long since I was in public school and I don't have any kids that went to school. They STILL don't teach how badly we screwed Native Americans ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by summerbre View Post
    When one refers to "assumptions" in science, they're referring to the basic assumptions that allow science to be reliable. Assumptions like: evidence obtained from the natural world can be used to draw conclusions about how it operates. and the natural world behaves in a consistent manner.

    (^Interestingly, those assumptions that we make about the "natural world" completely fail us when it comes to quantum mechanics, because particles do not behave in a manner consistent with the natural world, on a quantum level!)

    So yeah, to some extent, I guess faith is required to perform science. Faith that we're not living in The Matrix, basically.

    And as for climate change, I guess we won't go there, but maybe just read a book about it, or something.
    Like I said , the scientific method depends on things like observation , measuring etc. The biggest "fact" about science is how much we do NOT know. To me, that is part of the wonder and mystery of human experience. Some people insist on an "explanation" and turn to religion.

    Conclusions ought to be based on evidence. In science , sometimes that evidence is equivocal. Who says that " the natural world behaves in a consistent manner " ? If that were true we could predict hurricanes and tornadoes with certainty. We could discuss this back and forth until we end up going into "string theory " ; "chaos theory " etc.

    As for college - we've discussed this numerous times. Mostly in Dollar Den. Too many people go racking up too much in debt. Frankly, I think the old "campus " model is an outdated and over-priced anachronism. A few schools are recognizing this and are trying to adapt. Those that do it best will survive. Many that cling to the old model may not. I can't really discuss this issue further without getting "political" with stuff like the Student Loan Program; Federal research grants etc. The bottom line is that college is not for everybody and a cost -benefit analysis of attending one would be an excellent idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Is that still true ? I'm asking because it's been so long since I was in public school and I don't have any kids that went to school. They STILL don't teach how badly we screwed Native Americans ?
    I'll just simplify my response to this to: lol, Nope.

    Like, I'm seriously still genuinely surprised when non-natives have no idea what a CDIB is. I feel like they should mention that being a "recognized" Native American means that you essentially have a pedigree, like...a registered dog. Which was a system created by the govt.

    I could go on an ON. But I'll try not to, lol.
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    That is wrong if that is still not taught. I know back when I was in school when we did the Thanksgiving play no one wanted to be the Native Americans because they weren't looked at well. Because I am dark haired, darker skin and wore braids (and have several distinct Native American traits)I was always asked to play one and my classmates laughed at me because of it.

    I have to agree with everyone who mentioned college. I see radio DJ was mentioned and I would recommend getting experience (whether it's college or not)in another field because it's often a short career. I have a degree in radio myself and worked in radio but the career fizzled and because of that I switched fields. I get more interviews because of my experience than my degrees.

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    it is hard to see, but consider this: how many dimensions do you believe in? 3? 4? 7? 11? 21? It doesn't really matter. No matter what number you pick you can only say that you 'believe' in that many dimensions. You cannot proof the number is correct. And your belief is your faith.
    I believe in none. There is solid evidence for one, and I accept that evidence, and less solid (to me) evidence for more. How philosophical do you want to get here? I know two things, and two things only: my consciousness exists, and math exists. Beyond that everything is suspect, to varying degrees. Some much more so than others.
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    If true that is too bad and too sad. Shame on us.

    I'm surprised because I thought that "anti - American " and revisionist history WAS taught in many public schools. Frankly I don't care what they teach so long as it based on facts as opposed to feelings.

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    Some of the things being taught though are definitely moral issues and slanted a particular way. A friend of mine was telling me about some of the things her kids are taught in school and she was horrified. These were slanted a particular way and felt these were things that shouldn't be taught in school (morals issues).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Like I said , the scientific method depends on things like observation , measuring etc. The biggest "fact" about science is how much we do NOT know. To me, that is part of the wonder and mystery of human experience. Some people insist on an "explanation" and turn to religion.

    Conclusions ought to be based on evidence. In science , sometimes that evidence is equivocal. Who says that " the natural world behaves in a consistent manner " ? If that were true we could predict hurricanes and tornadoes with certainty. We could discuss this back and forth until we end up going into "string theory " ; "chaos theory " etc.
    You're arguing something totally different. When observation, measurements, and evidence become equivocal, and they certainly do, that's called biases and errors - in measurement, in attention, intervention errors like contamination, and less obvious errors like selection or population bias, etc. I was simply explaining what the word "assumption" means, in science - and the usefulness of the scientific method is predicated on the "assumption" that the universe behaves in a consistent, predictable manner. It's one of the first things that all students learn when they learn about the scientific method, and it must be true for the scientific method to be valid. Of course, the universe is convoluted and true science doesn't believe itself to be omnipotent, or even unequivocally true, and many scientists consider the scientific method to be imperfect. But it's certainly based in more "logic" than religion, by logic's definition. Also, the fact that weather is often unpredictable isn't the fault of the universe, so much as it is the fault of human ineptitude...

    Just semantics, really. I write learning materials for middle and high school science classes, since I studied the sciences in undergrad, just to give myself a little credibility. I promise I'm not just making the "assumption" thing up.... But of course, there IS a possibility we could all just live in The Matrix. And I say that totally not facetiously... If you get too deep in it you realize, there's NOTHING you can know with certainty. That's why I don't do psychedelic drugs. Freaky stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveHerButton View Post
    it is hard to see, but consider this: how many dimensions do you believe in? 3? 4? 7? 11? 21? It doesn't really matter. No matter what number you pick you can only say that you 'believe' in that many dimensions. You cannot proof the number is correct. And your belief is your faith.
    How am I am using faith to say there are three spatial dimensions and one temporal dimension? Doesn't all observable data show it to true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    If true that is too bad and too sad. Shame on us.

    I'm surprised because I thought that "anti - American " and revisionist history WAS taught in many public schools. Frankly I don't care what they teach so long as it based on facts as opposed to feelings.
    It is my understanding the opposite is true. I read an interesting book on the subject call, "Lies my Teacher Told Me".

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    I believe in none. There is solid evidence for one, and I accept that evidence, and less solid (to me) evidence for more. How philosophical do you want to get here? I know two things, and two things only: my consciousness exists, and math exists. Beyond that everything is suspect, to varying degrees. Some much more so than others.
    Oooh! My favorite topic to debate! The holographic universe is my fav thing.

    But here's the thing. Everything around us is matter. It is made up of energy. Energy vibrates. Matter just so happens to vibrate slow enough so that we can touch it. How do you know for sure that there aren't more dimensions that are just vibrating at a higher speed? That would explain ghosts and spirits. IMO, electronic devices like cameras and audio equipment are able to tape into dimensions close to us, thus explaining ghosts.

    If you can't picture this, picture a fan. When a fan is stopped, you can see it. You see all the panels. When a fan is on & at full speed, you can't even see it anymore! That is how energy works. And since everything is made up of energy... yeah. Some things could be hiding. And probably are.


    And you also mentioned this:
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    I know two things, and two things only: my consciousness exists, and math exists.
    My second favorite topic! Consciousness. What about the biggest flaws of consciousness though?

    Your consciousness exists but... is your consciousness creating reality? Or is reality creating your consciousness? You'll never be able to figure that out. So does your consciousness really exist?

    In addition, are your controlling your own consciousness, or is something else controlling your consciousness? Not even necessarily another person, but could your emotions even be controlling your consciousness considering emotions are energy and energy affects things at different wavelengths? And if someone was controlling your consciousness... if they were farrrrr superior to us with their brain power and had this ability, how would you even know someone was controlling your consciousness? I mean, we're mortals. We could easily be half monkey half alien. Halfbreeds. And wouldn't that mean that aliens would have twice or more the brainpower than humans have?

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    I like the discussion but some of us are digressing from the original topic. I have nothing against metaphysics , time and spatial analyses and related topics but I think those are best dealt with in a separate thread.

    Why don't we confine ourselves to the whoppers we were taught in school ? The posters have come up with some GREAT examples.

    Btw, I think we are doing a good job of avoiding "politics" so let's keep it up.
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