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    So, I've gotten the general impression from previous discussions that not too many people here are a fan of BP. I was wondering if those who have experience (and those who don't, of course) could post their opinions about the pros and cons of using it. There are virtually no advertising outlets for my current location, and though I'm a little nervous about posting on the site, I've spoken with someone nearby who says that as long as I do proper screening I should be ok. Thoughts?

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    I love BP

    Seriously, for the first couple years, I was so freaked out by all the things I heard about it...there were always those one or two women who would say they get their best clients off there, which was confusing because they were lovely, established, with good reputations, etc...but the grand majority would have nothing but bad things to say about BP, the guys who used it and the women who advertised there.

    And then...early this year it was like..the worst of the worst, I hadnt had a date in over 2 months, Id tried everything possible and was all..fuck this Im trying BP. Not only did it save my ass, some of my best clients came off backpage!!! (like how I did that?!) Seriously though, my first month on there I got a multihour, and an overnight date who went on to take me on a weekend trip to a resort. so when I say good clients, I totally mean it.

    To me, BP is no different than any other advertising medisum. There are some great guys, and some complete idiots. The idiots seem to prefer calling, my phone number is not on my ad (its on the contact page of my site though..but most idiots cant manage to make it that far). But the good thing about it is, in pretty much any city, BP is one of the first sites that come up for a guy searching to see someone, so everyone from your average guy who rarely ever does this, to your hardcore seasoned hobbyist, all check out BP.

    When I get a stupid email or someone does find my number and leave me a lame message, I just delete it. But I really do get far more decent guys than bad ones off there. Have only been propositioned by a pimp once LOL and actually, the most amount of timewasting messages I get are from other providers wanting to ask me all sorts of questions. Which I dont tust so I tell all of em to do their research as my canned response.. but yeah, thats about it. I heart BP and Im not ashamed to admit it...cause it seriously helped me catch up on 2 mohths of bills and pay my rent in the first month I started using it.
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    there have been over 200 recent arrest in my city ( I dont live in a large city) they were all either streetwalkers or BP - every single one - knock on wood no agencies were hit - just be extra extra extra careful - I think a lot of ladies on BP dont use basic safety measures in general and are an easy target - oh yea and if you partake in illegal substances dont be stupid and carry anything with you on calls - i am always amazed at the stupid girls who get the extra drug charges - use common sense - not that usdng drugs makes sense but thats another topic

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    Thank you both so much for the input. It's great to hear you love it, BlkSharpie, as I'm sort of in your situation and could really use the money, but I will temper that hope with the realistic input from Nikki. Also, I didn't realize you had to pay... Would it be a horrible idea to pay with my own credit card?

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    Wow, that's an awesome story BlkSharpie!! I've only put one single ad on BP thus far...and it has garnered a lot of calls and emails...but a lot of flakes...I will have to compare it to other mediums before deciding how much I like it.

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    get a throw away reload card - not green dot they will take your money for adult or perceived business purchases - go to the moneypak website and they have a list of card other than greendot

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    Dont use a Chase card. Did that recently and they put a hold on my bank account and sent me an email. I had to verify that I made the purchases myself by clicking some link in the email. But that didnt work right away. So I had to call my bank and speak to a representative. They were polite but started to ask questions. I wonder how much info shows on the banks end? I really hope the titles of my adds didn't show up? Thats kinda embarrasing. But it wasnt for escorting, they were phone sex ads. Now I just use my Netspend card. I think I may have to switch all my adult deposits to netspend from now on.

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    Default Re: Pros and Cons of BP

    Maybe I'm dumb, but it looks like GreenDot is the same thing as MoneyPak. Am I wrong? Also, there are a number of different kinds of Visa prepaid cards on the list... Safe, not safe?

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    Yeah I didnt realize it at first but MoneyPaks can be purchased and loaded to various cards besides Greendot. American Express has the Serve card that works with MoneyPak. Paypal cards as well. Not sure about Netspend? I think Netspend has their own moneypak thingy

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    ^ yep - money pak can be used to load several cards besides greendot - you can also load with moneygram and it is cheaper - just watch and look at the terms of service - some have limits on how much you can put on it and limis on transactions per month - different fees - just depends on how you are going to use it - you can have customers make a reservation deposit with it - they just call you with the number and you can load it over the phone or online - the efinance cards were only 3.00 to load but I think they are harder to find - and need to add that if you are reloading after the initial purchase then you have to register the card - if you want it to be totally annomyous just buy it and use that amout and then get another one

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiancaBliss View Post
    Thank you both so much for the input. It's great to hear you love it, BlkSharpie, as I'm sort of in your situation and could really use the money, but I will temper that hope with the realistic input from Nikki. Also, I didn't realize you had to pay... Would it be a horrible idea to pay with my own credit card?
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    In all fairness...both Nikki and I are being realistic. The thing to keep in mind is how you present yourself on BP. When you check it out, there are a good amoutn of ladies who WrTE LiKE ThiSS!!! offfering $80 specials, available 24/7 with photos of them with a toilet in the background or on dirty hotel sheets.

    1) The professional type guys Im talking about arent giving those ads a second look..thats not who they are calling.
    2) The ads like that, they are not doing any screening at all..or if they do its a cop check (grab the guy or tell the guy to grab her) when he arrives.

    Ladies like that are what you call streetwalkers with an internet connection...when LE goes after women, those are the ones the ones who fall for it and by the sheer number of ladies like that on BP, it makes the amount of busts sound impressive.

    On the inverse, when you are not anything like that, you stand out more to the guys who arent looking for that. LE doesnt put as much work into someone who screens, when they have so many they can take down just by calling and asking for an address. So its really up to you, who you want to attract, what type of biz yo uwant to run, and if safety is important to you, screen and dont let your guard down.

    I get contacted by LE all the time...telling me "a friend" gave me their number so can we meet up, saying no one has asked them for screening info anymore "Im a nice guy, just want to meet someone", or another one I get a lot "my gf just broke up with me and Ive never done this before / my wife just died Ive never done this before...so cant you just help me out Im so sad right now"....sayign he'll see me if Im available in the next half an hour...etc etc etc. Also, they are usually soooo sweet its sick, trying to gain trust to get out of screening. Or, if they provide references, its weak, to another lady on BP who ONLY advertises on BP, with nothing else anywhere online (because its another LE profile used to bait the guys...even if not, your average BP only girl isnt calling you back to give a reference anyway) And LE is best case scenario for bad guys, worst case scenario is its a phychopath with space cleared out in his trunk.

    But thats not jsut BP, thats *everywhere*...thing baout BP is theres so much lower end on there, that if you market yourself right, you will meet the type of guys I was talking about because you will stand out as someone they will even want to meet. If you screen and dont let your guard down, then your odds of geting busted are far lower than the "low hanging fruit" who dont screen at all, and not any more or less on BP than anywhere else.

    Hope that helps explain why bot of us are being realistic
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    I have yet to have a man willing to go through my screening on BP. Not one! I too suspect Im being contacted by le. And yeah they do try hard. But still none of them want to offer up the info. The one I get quite often is im an elderly white man on a business trip. IF that were true then he should know the ropes and comply with my screening. You're supposed to get wiser with age, I thought?

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    When I lived in smalltown Carolina’s I had to use BP because that was the site that would have gained you the most profit however I do not recommend using BP. All it is, is cheap losers, scumbag, slime balls looking for a cheap deal, even cheaper than $80. Lol. I know because almost every guy I met on BP tried to haggle me down as if we were at a used car lot. Now you could say that comes along with the business but the offers I got and the people I met on BP were fucking ridiculous. Like one other user said no self-respecting, upscale business man is going to answer an ad where the girl already looks fucked up on smack and is holding up her phone in a motel bathroom. Oh and she is also right about BP being filled with cops. But when it comes to BP cops is the least of your worries I mean I have met some serious borderline psychopaths on BP who even gone as far as to come back to my incall and try to cause trouble. After that incident I got the hell out of dodge and swore off backpage forever.

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    I didn't mean you weren't being realistic BlkSharpie!! I just meant that what you said made me go, 'Yeah! I can DO this! No problem! *fist pump*', and Nikki made me go, 'Ok, I CAN do this, but I have to be super careful. *wise nodding of my head*'. Lol. You are both incredibly helpful and I don't know if I would've made it this far without either of you lovely ladies. I'm going to remember what you said about the guys who are too sweet and try to get you to see them with no screening--I feel really bad for the women who take that bait!

    Roses, thank you for your input as well. It's good to get a reminder that not every client is a gentlemen who knows the rules.

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    I agree! BP is full of cheapo weirdos! For some reason- they are letting me screen them now, but we have had alot of sting operations in my city-going on here too, so everyone is scared lately. So, I think they realize if I screen that I'm not LE or I would just talk dirty to them and bust them on the spot. Also- YOU MUST sign up and use www.verifyhim.com Especially if your working off of BP. Also- never charge less than 100 perHH on that site. If you are young and very fit- go for 150. It weeds out the ghetto trash and if you stick to your guns- THEY WILL stop calling to negotiate. Dont even bother if its a foreigner who doesn't speak good english. Alot of their culture is- If you say 80, they will say 60 immediately. If you say 100- they will usually just hang up and you dont have to bother with them. Anyways- I have learned how to half sweet-talk the guys and how to be very solid all at the same time and that I must screen them. You will get used to talking to them, putting their minds at ease but letting them know that you have to know that they aren't LE or a violent criminal who could hurt you. And I had LE call me last week too- "oh- I just dont feel comfortable giving out that info. sweetheart" (after asking sexual questions that I refused to answer). Not screened = you cant be seen!!! I hung up on him after giving him a piece of my mind........

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    To add to what you said Fem, unless the foreigner is European I love the Euro men here on business or for holiday!! Mostly Germans, Swiss and Italians I notice...

    Anyway I totally agree with VH, I feel so fortunate that I found it as soon as I did when I started working...I cant imagine screening / working without it. About haggling...I just kept raising my rates til guys stopped. At a certian price point, they dont even bother trying. Then again, I dont plan to ever retire...when Im ready to lay off, Ill just keep raising my rate til no one will pay it anymore So my thinking is unconventional
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    Here's a quick update on my situation:
    I went for it and posted my first ad about a week ago, but I made it short and sweet. I didn't 'WrTE LiKE ThiSS!!!' (lol, still think that's hilarious but sadly true). I used a Visa gift card I purchased at Wal-Mart and had no problems using it with a fake name and address. I didn't write my stats, availability or fees. I simply put a small leader with one picture and suggested interested parties go to my website. I have a tracker on my site that tells me how much traffic I get per day, and WOW--huge increase over the next two days. What's even more shocking, however, is that NO ONE emailed me. Wtf? So I talk with an escort in a bigger city nearby about it, and she says trying to stand out by writing in intelligible English is a great idea, but that maybe next time I should put my email address in the ad. She also keeps telling me I'm sitting on a goldmine, so I should try again. Well, a few nights ago, I did. Used the same card, same leader, but this time I put my email address in it. Again, traffic went up like crazy for a day, but this time I got two emails. Wow. A whopping two!! The first one said he's a fit 43 year old doing this for the first time--I passed. The second told me to email him back and he'd give me his number--I told him that if he were to email me again, it would be with references. Needless to say, he still hasn't emailed me back.
    I believe the fellow escort, but I can't help but feel a teensy bit upset that I have to post a bunch of pictures, spell out my rates, and say the obvious and incredibly stupid lines like '100% real!! 100% independent!!' in order to get business. Originally I told myself that if I didn't get any replies that was fine, because I don't want douchebag idiots knocking on my door. But the money would be so nice...

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    Ohhhhhh.........Sigh..............as much as I hate to admit it. I know what is happening. You see- the guys are not too bright at all on bp. (Think bottom feeder types), so since you are asking to screen them and they do not see any reviews of you (on douchebag sites like TER or EECIE etc.) They are assuming you are a cop and/or they just being very disrespectful because you are the new girl and they don't want to be screened/ are testing you. When they are googling your number- probably not a whole lot pops up- with no review boards etc yet. Once you get some reviews and get established and have regulars etc, the guys will start letting you screen them "once you have made a name for yourself." But seriously- bp is where the cheapskate liars hang out anyways. If you ALREADY have a website, why not go with a link to it at Ero's? Those guys are much classier and will PAY WAY BETTER WITHOUT ALL THE WHINING/NEGOTIATING B.S. that happens constantly with backpage. Trust me- Its much easier/less fatiguing and less dangerous to charge 300 or 400 an hour to a well established business man and get that amount from one appointment- then it is to charge 60-80 bucks for half an hour and have to deal with taking several ghetto trash calls a day to eek out a living. Also-Can you go to the closest bigger city where Ero's is used? You can make way more with half the drama and the guys will be seasoned hobbyists who know the rules and expect/tolerate screening. Btw- dont think that you are not worth it either. I still have probs with confidence and raising my rates-but I'm learning and its WELL worth it!! Try some other sites besides BP. They dont respond too well to websites there. They are the guys that want a "fast-food Mcdonals experience". They dont want to "set an appointment" for in a few days. They are hungry and horny and want a quick bite and sex RIGHT NOW for a cheap price. Where-as the Ero's type crowd wants to set up a dinner date for a future time, come all dressed up and pay mucho more money for a much more high classed "meal" and experience. Those are the type of men who look at and fill out forms on a website. But the bp guys?? Hell- they look at the "PURTY PICTURES" and are way too damn cave-man illiterate and horny to even read what ads say, let alone go to your website. Your already too high class for BP!!! LOLOL Now- you can get higher paying guys off of there- but usually not at first. Ero's is a much better bet for ya!

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    Agree with above - eros is better but bp can get you cust - they are just harder to get to the good ones - and a new ad is always suspect - after they see it for awhile them may lighten up -but the majority are cheap asses - if they see your ad enough someone will step up and TOFTT

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    I went in and changed my old BP ads to include my start date. I also turned of the ability to have them respond to the ad. So inside the ad I included an email only for BP and one other place. That email addy has an auto repsponder stating my process and links to pages on my site that spell it out. But discreetly. I let them know in the autoresponder that I will not break my rules and that they must fill out the contact form on my site. Once they fill out that form the results go to the second email address that's posted on my site. I've gotten lots of responses and zero have been willing to fill out the contact form. But in a way it weeds them out and I can say that the responses are much better than the guys wanting to send me pics of their dicks and so forth. But I only just did it a few days ago and I have noticed more guys googling my name as a result of the ad. That helps with google placement and I spent very little for that ad. So in my opinion that alone helps me in the long run even if they don't book.

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    Yeah, I saw a Craig's ad, guaranteed happy end, wtf? plus a picture, showing face? wtf, damn. I mean you can get in trouble for just giving a phone #, right?


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    Is there a closed group on this site for escorts?

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    Whatever Im going to create one. Cuz somethings I dont feel should be discussed here. Makes me a bit uncomfortable. So how does a invite only group sound? Kinda like the verified group? Members have to have a certain number of likes and post?

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    Sounds great, I'd be interested. I don't think we have one now, there's one for cammers, I believe


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    Just created it LOL Providers United is the name https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/group.php?groupid=103
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