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    Hello!

    I have been actively camming since April. At the moment I cam mostly on chaturbate but have slowly been adding streamate hours into my schedule as well.
    I am not having any success!

    I don't want this to turn into a whining thread so I'm going to give you the straight facts about what I'm doing and see if I can get some help. I've done searches in this forum and I'm hoping to get some slightly more direct answers to my questions than what I've been finding so forgive me if any of this is addressed elsewhere. I would appreciate any links to helpful threads as well as some general advice and constructive criticism.

    I am a blonde, bbw (though I'm losing weight since I cut sugar from my diet, tripled my water intake, and added a little exercise to my daily routine). I'm not huge but I'm definitely not skinny.
    I seem to be having trouble generating traffic. I'm usually on cam for about 6 hours a day. The most I've ever had in my room is 65 people and most of those were greys. On SM, the most I've had in my room is 10 or 15.
    I feel like I'm over all rather attractive and I do see a lot of traffic on my amateur photo site.
    I make at MOST $250 a month from camming and sometimes less. Most nights I make maybe $10. The most I've ever made in a night is $5.

    How do I keep people in my room? Most of the threads here tell me to make my room exciting and fun but I can't find any tips on how to actually do that.

    I dance around to music, I tease, I try to start games with the people, I try to always smile. What else can I try?

    I keep my cam space neat and tidy, I have lots of toys though I don't usually show them in free very often. I wear bright underwear and I fix my hair and put on makeup before I open my room.

    I have a good internet connection with great upload speed so I don't think I'm having connection issues.

    I have a great computer and I just upgraded to the logitech pro c920

    I have about 570 followers on CB and only 18 on SM (as I said I'm only just now experimenting with that site).

    How long did it take you to start making money? Do I need to just give it more time to build up regulars or should I already be making money? How do I increase my traffic?

    Oh, also I generally cam from 2:00 AM to 7:00 AM CST and also from noon to 3:00 or 4:00 PM

    At this point I am open to any and all suggestions. I really do enjoy camming. I love putting the work into it I just want to make sure I'm putting the right kind of work into it.

    As I said I apologize that these questions have all probably been addressed but in doing my searches I had a hard time finding what I was looking for.

    Thank you so much for taking the time to read this.

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    I can't give you any advice on CB, but if you're not breaking $5/10 a night on CB I'd definitely concentrate on SM. They're having problems right now but you should still be able to beat that. A lot of people complain about token-based sites not being kind to BBWs, that may be your issue?

    I know you say you enjoy putting the work into it but you seem to be putting in a lot of work for relatively little money. Can I ask what your hustle/rates/etc on SM are like?

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    On SM I have premium chat set at $2.74 a minute and exclusive at $3.75.

    I can't get the HD encoder to work for some reason so I can't get access to Gold Shows yet.

    I try to get gold for flashes but that's never been successful.

    I've got an MFC account but I've heard it's difficult for BBWs on that site so I haven't actually done anything with it yet.

    I agree, I feel like I'm putting a lot of work in with no return!

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    Try another site,find one that will suit u.I am not american,nor english(and I mention this because I noticed that your nationality matters most of the time ) and the only time I was making 250 a month was when I didnt paid enough attention to my chat,I did not entice them enough to go private,I didnt put enough hours or I was just cam-burnt ,as I am now.I ve tried ctb and didnt work for me,I am a bbw too and MAYBE that is why I did not succeed there but I doubt,as I ve seen a lot of curvy-bbw girls doing pretty good there.I tend to believe that I did not felt comfy on that site and thats why I did not succeed there.But thats my story.Maybe you feel comfortable there and for some other reasons you are not doing good.Keep it there,but meantime try other sites too,250 a month is awful.Been there done that so I understand u very well.

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    I think some system of constructive critique would be amazing. Like if a few successful veteran girls could watch a new girl for 15 minutes, and then give them advice. Of course that's 15 minutes they aren't on cam themselves, so I can see how that would be a hard sell.

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    Don't worry about gold shows, you can make money without them. The encoder is important. It's possible to work without it but your placement goes way up if you use it, which means more traffic, which means more money. What exactly are you having trouble with?

    I would raise your prices... it seems counter-intuitive but guys may think there's something wrong with you or that you don't put on a good show if your prices are that low. If your camera, computer and Internet connection are good (check your cammodels link when you're streaming to see what the guys see: yourname.cammodels.com) I'd bump to at least 3.49.

    How many people are usually in your free chat? If you're generally getting 5+ people in your free chat at a time but no one's biting that probably means you need to work on your hustle, if it's less than that you need to work on your traffic (use the encoder!) and/or play with your position, lighting, etc. You don't need to dance around, be scantily dressed, or be really entertaining in free chat on SM.

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    How do I be entertaining in free chat? What are some things I can do? It's difficult when I have nobody in the room. Do I talk to myself? That's why I tend to dance around because it gives me something to do so I'm not just sitting there when people come in.

    I usually only have one or two in free chat.

    As far as the encoder, I posted a thread about it here.

    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...keeps-crashing

    It just always freezes and I've never actually been able to get it to stay working long enough to even get SM open. As soon as I open the encoder and press a button of any kind the whole program freezes and I have to shut it down through the task manager.

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    That's the thing, on SM you DON'T need to be entertaining in free chat. I'm telling you this so you don't wear yourself out dancing around or anything. Generally I just sit on my bed chatting with people, or if no one's talking I'll browse the Internet or occasionally fake a conversation (in classic chat, if you do this in party chat they'll think you're crazy, lol.) It's not like a token site where you make money off of entertaining people in free chat, the idea is that they get a limited experience in free chat and have to pay for more skin/attention/entertainment. I'm not sure exactly how to fix your encoder problem... if you've tried everything listed on the thread maybe you should contact SM support? They're not terribly helpful most of the time but it's worth a shot.

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    Yeah I've heard SM support isn't very... supportive. I'll give them a try though.

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    Make sure you are using your mic in free chat and are talking to the people that are in there. Personality is key on cam sites. You can move around and dance occasionally, but make sure you don't give to much away for free.

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    I think I have a stellar personality! I also know that my shows are freaking HOT. However, I have a hard time getting guys to buy a show to tell them that! I'm amazing at dirty talk and for the guys that are into being dominant I'm great at playing the submissive little slut. I know I have things going for me I just have to figure out the best way to market that.

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    I definitely use my mic. I rarely type messages into the room I always try to speak. I greet every person that enters my room and try to get/keep a conversation going.

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    I DO NOT like working on CB. Too many freeloaders! I am no good at getting them to pay me there. I saw a great post on here about how to hustle on CB however. I think it's on the chaturbate thread. I also read there bbws don't tend to do well on cb?? Thoughts anyone else?

    I work on cams.com and get about 2 privates an hour there whenever I am on. It works out a lot better for me on cams.

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    Also, I've found just looking hot and REALLY engaging the men is the best thing to do. Say their names & ask them questions. Be yourself & show your personality. The thing that gets a private stared often for me is telling a guy I've been talking to I have done shows w/no orgasm & need to SO BAD (lol). Kick guys who are just asking to see you show ass/etc...they are getting off to you for free.

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    I think that the hustle is what I need to work on! I don't actually think I know how to lol. In CB I always bounce the ones who ask me to show something unless they tip of course. I've heard mixed reviews on BBWs on CB. I've always heard we do better on SM but as I'm unable to use the encoder I seem to not be having as much luck there either. I'm not one to give up easily and I've always been good at whatever I set my mind to doing so I'm determined to make this work.

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    The encoder IS helpful for placement = more traffic. But remember that it is not a must have. Try to cam with the encoder , but do a 3 strikes rule. If it crashes your system 3 times, don't waste time and energy just frustrating yourself. Get on and don't think about it anymore. Your frustration with the issue will end up messing with your mood and customers will be able to see it. Always be positive!

    Make sure you list you strong points and emphasize it in your profile. Examples: Include the fact that you 'want to be their submissive slut' (If you want to deal with customers like that) You enjoy dirty talk so let them have 'lighter' dirty talk in free to hook them and tell them they are getting you all worked up and should bring you to private so you ca show them how worked up you're getting. Basically, make your profile appealing.

    Read this thread: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...&highlight=bbw It went off the tracks at one point, but it is great!

    Good luck!!

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    Thanks,

    My point with the encoder is I can't even get it to work to set up the preferred settings. I've never even been able to use it with SM lol so I don't know if it would crash my system then or not. I think I got a bad install or something and just need to wipe it off my system and try some sort of clean install or something.

    Thanks for the link I'll check it out.

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    My guess is that you are giving too much away free. They need to tip or come to private to get their requests.


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    I don't give anything away for free. I charge for every flash. I even charge for PMs most of the time on CB.

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    Wow. I personal think its time to give up on what's not working for you. Its time to reformulate ur hustle. Im a bbw as well and blonde (black girl with blonde hair at that) and I don't really have more then 11 guys in my room at a time but on slow sunday (always super slow for me) I spend half my time in private, on an average day I spend 65/75.To me I don't think having the most guys in your room make the world of difference, at 65 guys Id be rich. I don't know anything about the token sites so this is for the non token sites.
    -Change your hair color, buy a pink wig if you have too. I saw this girl on SM, long blonde hair did nothing but stare in the cam and hit every gold show. Dyed her hair black and cut it short, now shes at the bottom of the page restarting timers. So something so small could have a huge impact.
    -Change your outfits. On sunday the first hour on I only had 2 private under 10 min each, needless to say I was not happy. I changed my outfit and my nite went on as usual.
    -Change your style of makeup, lets say your very heavy on the eyes, you might want to try a bold lip and a cat eye
    -If your shows are hot, film them, make vids and sell. Make short shows and long ones, make trailers that you can give out as free thank yous to generous tippers. create a lil buzz
    -Do photo sets , that you can sell and update your profile with.
    -Instead of dancing, just sit there and smile sweetly. never lie down, unless your legs are open to the cam. As big girls I think we look too fucking relaxed and ready for bed lying down.
    -Do fetish vids, feet vids, giantgantism vids ( im sure I spelt it wrong but its you as a big girl compared to them as a small man) etc you might find that you do better on the fetish market.
    -Change your hours up, if you can. You might find you make more from 7-11a and work more on the days you make the most and not the least. Like on Saturday, I might work 12 hours on Sunday I'm there for 4.
    -spilt stream and work more then one site at once, I know some girls do 5 at a time.
    -Don't be afraid to try MFC, if you enjoy the token hustle. Just because it didn't for those big girls doesn't mean you wont be amazing on there.
    -If you do a gold show you can actually merge the sites together and have a token show going for x amount and gold show going and you can perform your hot show for 2 or 3 sites at once.
    -Don't be afraid to ask the guys who come in your room, how can I be more interesting, what would make you want to stay I my room longer? Ask that to the guys who actually stay in your room and actually talk to you for a bit not the guys begging for tits.

    What every it is you decide to do, your brand as it is only makes you 5 a day, let it go and do something different. Don't cling to what's not profitable.

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    Thanks for the suggestions! I can work almost any hours I want so I'll definitely try to change up my hours. I've filmed some of my shows before. I hope to start selling them. I like the idea of tralers for generous tippers. Thanks again!

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    So, tonight I'm trying just sitting and smiling and not being too active in the free area just keeping conversation going. I've been on for about an hour and I've made $20. I welcome any and all other advice but tonight has definitely been better (I'm on CB tonight).

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    would you look at that, already turning a profit. Yay you!!

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    Apryl, you are AWESOME

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    Where is your marketing?

    Why are you not working on building your own brand & bringing in your own customer base? I tripled my income for the same amount of time on cam within a Year of marketing on twitter. Marketing should be at least 10 hours a week.
    There are wonderful threads about marketing on this site.

    I don't care how many people are in my room as long as I can get one to spend money & take me private.

    Encoder is important. Print out the instructions & go through it step by step. There is no excuse, don't opt out of it. Figure it out. Many girls have figured it out, you can too. Don't give up so easily. I hate excuses, when apparently others have figured out how to do it. You are letting yourself off the hook way to easy.

    Watch other cam gals & they hustle to get privates & such. Gold shows are for gals who have proven they can convert.
    Ask the guys who do take you private to give you a good rating or comment.

    The hustle is something you have to work on & improve upon each & every DAY!
    I don't work chaturbate. SM is awesome.

    Once again being a bbw is your issue, your personal issue. Many bbws' make money. There are several threads on the bbw issue. Confidence sells. Amazingly enough I never let my fat ass hold me back but use it as a selling point. I've managed to have a whole career being a bbw & a top selling girl on cam too. So that is your issue, not the men on the cam sites.
    Try reading "The Secret" or rent the movie based off of the book. You are holding yourself back.

    Many new girls on cam don't make money, they don't survive past 2 weeks. It actually takes work & a learning curve to make money & get to the top.

    Why are you recording shows for? I don't get it. There is a wonderful thread all about c4s & other sites & how to do those. But to just put up recorded shows from a camming is NOT the way to go. You need to put way more energy & imagination into making clips that sell.

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