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    Now, I know the guy is VERY LIKELY full of shit, but I'm curious--
    if someone posted an ad on craigslist looking for a contract wife-- meaning to pay her, and have it remain non-sexual, I'm assuming
    for citizenship, what are the chances it's a sting?

    I know it's considered fraud, and even if it were a genuine offer I probably wouldn't say yes but there's still the possibility and
    I'm willing to charge him to meet with him and hear out his entire story.

    What are the legal repercussions?

    *stolen from AutumnAmbrosia*

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    No idea, but PASS anyway.
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    I did dude was totally dumb in the second email.

    BAN!

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    The fact that it's on Craigslist should tell you all you need to know.

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    I wouldn't do it, not from craigslist. Actually I wouldn't do it at all unless you know the guy really well or really do love him and trust him. I remember reading about this case a long time ago:

    http://nshima.com/2008/05/01/marrying-for-a/

    She posted an ad and eventually the USCIS found out somehow, after they had gotten married.

    Helping him adjust his status and applying for his work permit etc. is a real headache because there is a lot of paperwork involved. You would have to sponsor this guy and would have to show your tax returns as proof that you earn an annual minimum salary to say that you can support both of you.

    Also once you become his sponsor to petition him, you basically sign a contract agreeing to be financially responsible for him in case something goes wrong.

    http://www.immihelp.com/affidavit-of...ligations.html

    Website won't let me copy and paste, but it basically says that if that husband decides to go on welfare then according to the gov't, your assets could be used to support him. And if you don't support him, he can actually turn around and sue you for it.

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    This is from my personal experience:
    In the past, a contract wife is often a woman who agrees to a green card marriage for money. Usually a man gives the woman money upfront...anything from 5000 to 75000 dollars for the down payment. You will get the other half after you guys decide to get marry. If you decide to do this type of hustle;make sure everything is put in a contact and all the parties agreed. Also the main people doing these contract marriages come from India,China,Turkey,Arab lands, Latin America, Eastern Europe, and Africa. Plus they are middle to upper class men looking to get into the USA or North America. Or if they are already here; they are looking for fast citizenship by marrying an American woman. This hustle can be done if the guy is someone you can trust and comes from a culture where arrange marriages are common place. The best contract husband is either an African business man or Punjubi Gyspy from India; because they offer you the contact, money, and arrangements upfront. By the way, you can also enter into this type of arrangement with Mexicans or Brazilians but they want to pay you like 1500 a month plus live in your house. I hope this helps as I knew many chicks in Miami who did this hustle. This was in 1990s to early 2000s, however now, you should try to become the man's friend and googled his name before getting married. Also be prepared for the government questioning your marriage. I would not recommend this hustle instead you are a great actress, hustler,or know this person. This is a dangerous and complex hustle that can land you in hot water
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    ^Sounds like the Brazilians and Mexicans are the smartest of the bunch because you have to end up living together anyway. It's not quite as simple as getting married, filling out some paperwork and then he has a green card and you're free to live separate lives.

    For all intents and purposes, you have to have a real marriage: "This is a lot easier to prove if there is a wedding reception where the U.S. citizen spouse’s parents and relatives are present, where the couple has joint property and files joint income tax returns and especially if the couple has a child together."

    There is great scrutiny on these marriages and even an exam: http://shusterman.com/pdf/immigrationmarriage.pdf

    It's definitely not a decision to take lightly and you'd be foolish to think that it's an easy hustle and everything will be great once you sign the marriage license. You'll be under scrutiny for years and you really do have to present the marriage as real for the entire time, or else contract husband gets deported and you don't get your payment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    ^Sounds like the Brazilians and Mexicans are the smartest of the bunch because you have to end up living together anyway. It's not quite as simple as getting married, filling out some paperwork and then he has a green card and you're free to live separate lives.

    For all intents and purposes, you have to have a real marriage: "This is a lot easier to prove if there is a wedding reception where the U.S. citizen spouse’s parents and relatives are present, where the couple has joint property and files joint income tax returns and especially if the couple has a child together."

    There is great scrutiny on these marriages and even an exam: http://shusterman.com/pdf/immigrationmarriage.pdf

    It's definitely not a decision to take lightly and you'd be foolish to think that it's an easy hustle and everything will be great once you sign the marriage license. You'll be under scrutiny for years and you really do have to present the marriage as real for the entire time, or else contract husband gets deported and you don't get your payment.
    Oh Shanna, ....you are correct because the marriage laws have changed. But I was talking about what it was like during the early 2000s in California, now it is so hard to even enter into a contract marriage with anyone. However this hustle can be done if you are a great actress, you are friends with the guy, or if he is your sugar daddy.....but the government would always be in your face. Also I was talking about this subject from my experience in which it was easy because in California....the government did not really pay attention when minorities married illegals often during the early 2000s. I knew plenty of black and latina women who ran this hustle but that was during the 1990s and early 2000s; plus they would marry only Indians, Mexicans, Africans, and Turks in order not to get caught. Plus I was going to enter into one of these marriage but my fiancee died before the marriage took place. However in my case, I got all of the money because he was like my best friend and we actually had a real friendship and companionship. Shanna, everyone who does this hustle well knows that you must have a real wedding and some girls even have babies in order to look like real wives. This is a easy hustle for those who know how to plan it but I never said it was simple...it is a very complex and dangerous thing.

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    Oh by the way, even if you do this hustle properly....this is a very dangerous and complex hustle that should not be taken lightly. However, this was a popular hustle during the 1980s to the early 2000s for those women looking for big money. But now it is a very dangerous thing to try....so think about it if you are going to try it.

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    I don't think it's worth the headache and the risks. I would rather donate my eggs if I needed one big lump sum of money
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    Oh Shanna, ....you are correct because the marriage laws have changed. But I was talking about what it was like during the early 2000s in California, now it is so hard to even enter into a contract marriage with anyone. However this hustle can be done if you are a great actress, you are friends with the guy, or if he is your sugar daddy.....but the government would always be in your face. Also I was talking about this subject from my experience in which it was easy because in California....the government did not really pay attention when minorities married illegals often during the early 2000s. I knew plenty of black and latina women who ran this hustle but that was during the 1990s and early 2000s; plus they would marry only Indians, Mexicans, Africans, and Turks in order not to get caught. Plus I was going to enter into one of these marriage but my fiancee died before the marriage took place. However in my case, I got all of the money because he was like my best friend and we actually had a real friendship and companionship. Shanna, everyone who does this hustle well knows that you must have a real wedding and some girls even have babies in order to look like real wives. This is a easy hustle for those who know how to plan it but I never said it was simple...it is a very complex and dangerous thing.
    But you made it sound like you were giving advice for girls considering it now. You did not say "this is the way it used to be". Someone might have followed your advice and ended up in prison or worse.

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    oops. Double post!
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    He can also run up huge debts & then you would be stuck with them. Take that into consideration. So what if he paid you $10,000 to $20k if he while in the United STates ran up hundreds of thousands of dollars of debts, as his wife/his partner you would be equally responsible for the & your credit ruined for 10 years of more.
    Especially, when he can leave & just go back to his original country.

    They always say no sex, but honestly you think a man who gave you a large sum of money wouldn't pressure you into sex once living inside your home. You risk going to jail, he would just hop a flight back to where ever. Then how much would that cost in lawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    He can also run up huge debts & then you would be stuck with them. Take that into consideration. So what if he paid you $10,000 to $20k if he while in the United STates ran up hundreds of thousands of dollars of debts, as his wife/his partner you would be equally responsible for the & your credit ruined for 10 years of more.
    Especially, when he can leave & just go back to his original country.
    Prenup.

    They always say no sex, but honestly you think a man who gave you a large sum of money wouldn't pressure you into sex once living inside your home. You risk going to jail, he would just hop a flight back to where ever. Then how much would that cost in lawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    Prenup.



    A man who is trying not to get deported is probably going to be in good behavior.

    A man trying to enter this country by fraud is NOT to be trusted.

    A man who ask you to break the laws & risk jail time is NOT be to trusted.

    A man who ask you for a bit of money to enter into marriage is NOT to be trusted.

    A man you know nothing about, could be a criminal in his own country running away is NOT to be Trusted.

    Being deported back to family & friends is NOT a hardship as doing jail time in this country to them.

    How do you know if this isn't a terrorist trying to gain access to this country?

    Prenups mean absolutely nothing to creditors chasing you down & putting debts on your credit history.

    Marrying a STRANGER is not a good idea, much less one coming from another country & culture committing fraud & breaking the law.

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    Fraud is NOT easy money. Marriage is a serious thing, to treat it otherwise is a mistake.

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    The guy will always use it against you or throw it in your face or threaten to anonymously tip off the authorities if you don't do as he says. He can always fuck over your credit and your life since he would NEED to know your SSN and other personal information if you plan to apply for a marriage license together (you will be questioned).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    He can also run up huge debts & then you would be stuck with them. Take that into consideration. So what if he paid you $10,000 to $20k if he while in the United STates ran up hundreds of thousands of dollars of debts, as his wife/his partner you would be equally responsible for the & your credit ruined for 10 years of more.
    Especially, when he can leave & just go back to his original country.

    They always say no sex, but honestly you think a man who gave you a large sum of money wouldn't pressure you into sex once living inside your home. You risk going to jail, he would just hop a flight back to where ever. Then how much would that cost in lawyers.

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    Allow for me to speak from my experience:

    This is true but this happens with horror stories..... some men can actually keep their word and others can not. In my case, I did get a large sum of money without sex being involved. However it is not true for everyone, many women get played and others did not. You are talking about something that everyone who enters into this type of marriage must think about. Frankly, men can do the same thing to you even if they are us citizens. But in my experience, the government did not step in and everyone got away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    A man trying to enter this country by fraud is NOT to be trusted.

    A man who ask you to break the laws & risk jail time is NOT be to trusted.

    A man who ask you for a bit of money to enter into marriage is NOT to be trusted.

    A man you know nothing about, could be a criminal in his own country running away is NOT to be Trusted.

    Being deported back to family & friends is NOT a hardship as doing jail time in this country to them.

    How do you know if this isn't a terrorist trying to gain access to this country?

    Prenups mean absolutely nothing to creditors chasing you down & putting debts on your credit history.

    Marrying a STRANGER is not a good idea, much less one coming from another country & culture committing fraud & breaking the law.

    Sam

    Fraud is NOT easy money. Marriage is a serious thing, to treat it otherwise is a mistake.
    Sam, you make a lot of great points and this type of hustle should not be taken lightly. However, you can also run this same risk by marrying a American as a well. Also you must understand in order to do this type of hustle...one must think about the money only.Usually, a real marriage is the last thing on the person's mind. This is not for everyone nor should everyone do it, plus no one said that fraud is easy money. I just know from experience what happen to me....I have the type of background and family history in which this sort of marriage is not really looked down on. Plus the people I knew did this sort of thing often...some even fell in love and had a "real marriage" while others did this to get out of being on aid. Frankly, if a woman does this...she must build a proper friendship with the guy and check his past out before you marry him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    Prenup.

    Usually a prenup is not used....you sign a iron-clad contract in which he provides for you and you talk about what you need from him.

    A man who is trying not to get deported is probably going to be in good behavior.
    Most of the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    The guy will always use it against you or throw it in your face or threaten to anonymously tip off the authorities if you don't do as he says. He can always fuck over your credit and your life since he would NEED to know your SSN and other personal information if you plan to apply for a marriage license together (you will be questioned).
    Glamour, this is true but I believe before enter into a contract marriage they should get to know each other first as friends Plus they need to remember that you can always googled the person before the marriage

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