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    Moderators - please direct this to another topic if this is out of place, sorry!


    I recently began Web Cam Modeling to help support myself and pay off my student loans. I knew my work would be linked to my SSN for taxes, but was unaware that my "previous employment history" on webcam sites could show up on an Employment Background Check with a future employer until now.... I didn't even know these EXISTED!

    Found this information on the thread about Taxes:

    I was definitely nieve about previous employment checks, but too late now to go back. I'm already signed up, and have already been making money. I'm really nervous about the implications this could have on my future.... I LOVE camming, but was looking to have it supplement my career while I got on my feet - not ruin my chances of being hired.

    Has anyone else experienced this? Has anyone had to explain themselves to an employer, or have it come up in a background check? How do you handle these situations?

    I'm SO scared!

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    Default Re: Employment Background Checks

    Melonie and I have discussed this on other threads too.

    Some background checks include pulling your credit report. If you apply for a loan and put down the cam site/ strip club/ etc as your employer it may show up on your credit report. Or if your employer reports to the credit reporting agencies their names can also show up on your credit report. This is easy to remove. Go to annualcreditreport.com (it is a government sponsered website that will give you a free credit report) if those employers are listed just dispute them as errors. They will be removed.

    The other way to avoid this issue is to create a business name you operate under. There are other threads concerning that as well ..https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...&highlight=llc
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    This comes up quite a bit and I'm sure Melonie will around soon to post some helpful links but I can tell you this: it hasn't hurt me. Several years ago I ran a background check on me both credit and just in general and a club I worked at and my agency both showed up. The club showed up because I got a tax form (this club paid me), but it was in the name of the parent company which was the name of the family (It was a small company). This family owned other clubs, but most of the others were not strip clubs, I think the others were legit restaurants. My agency showed up because I was paying taxes but also using it to show my income for things like loans and cars. My agency name wasn't sex orientated luckily and I later found out pretty common. I also booked entertainers not sexual either, such as an artist and a DJ.

    Has this affected me? not at all, and since then I have worked for a government agency and as a teacher, both of which did heavy background checks. The rest of my background doesn't show up at all because I filed taxes under an independent contractor and listed myself as a model.

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    ^^^ yup, for the moment at least, the largest risk factor is a 1099 from an 'adult entertainment industry' related business being submitted to the IRS which is linked to your real name and social security number. High profile employers, state professional licensing agencies etc. now typically require that job / license applicants execute a 4506 IRS permission form which allows those employers / state agencies to examine your tax records. If a 1099 exists that was issued by a well known 'adult entertainment' related business, odds are that questions will arise.

    My larger fear is not what might happen this year, but what might happen a few years down the road. Facial Recognition Software is already in the FBI tool kit, as well as most state criminal investigation agencies, and is now also being sold to major corporation. Thus the future possibility exists that applicants for straight jobs / professional licenses will be subjected to an internet search using a photo taken at the time of application. If a matching face shows up in an 'adult' pic or vidcap on a webcam partner tube site, a strip club website, a pirate site, an upload site etc., odds are that the person's resume' will accidentally fall in the waste basket.

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    Default Re: Employment Background Checks

    Melonie makes a great point, don't show your face in ads or pics for work OR allow your club to do so.

    I personally have one of my old clubs that shows up on my credit check, BUT the name is really ambiguous so I don't worry about it.

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    I personally have one of my old clubs that shows up on my credit check, BUT the name is really ambiguous so I don't worry about it
    Unfortunately, that's not necessarily a 'safe' assumption anymore. Private databases are available which can provide investigators with a profile for ANY company's business activities, thus making an 'ambiguous' company name of limited value in all but the most basic of background checks.

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    Apologies for going slightly off topic, but at what point will we stop disallowing anyone that ever worked in the 'sex industry' to have a 'normal job'. If or more likely when, facial recognition software allows prospective employers to find out anyone's past activities, are we going to say that any web cam lady can't be hired?!

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    <snip> ... My larger fear is not what might happen this year, but what might happen a few years down the road. Facial Recognition Software is already in the FBI tool kit, as well as most state criminal investigation agencies, and is now also being sold to major corporation. Thus the future possibility exists that applicants for straight jobs / professional licenses will be subjected to an internet search using a photo taken at the time of application. If a matching face shows up in an 'adult' pic or vidcap on a webcam partner tube site, a strip club website, a pirate site, an upload site etc., odds are that the person's resume' will accidentally fall in the waste basket.
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    ^^^ nobody is saying, or has ever said, that any girl who has a history of having worked in the 'sex industry' will not be allowed to ever work a 'normal job'. In the vast majority of cases, typical 'normal job' employers won't dig deep enough to discover a past history of 'sex industry' work, and/or won't care if it is discovered. Indeed, where today's new 'normal jobs' are concerned, which now primarily exist in service industries, many 'normal job' employers could care less about past work history, and are arguably more concerned with other 'job qualifications' such has how well the skimpy server's uniform would fit the applicant, how 'bright' the applicant's smile is, etc. !!!

    However, most inquiries along these lines which have actually been posted here at SW do NOT involve 'normal jobs' or normal job employers. Instead they involve 'professional' jobs which involve a large investment of time and tuition money to first obtain a college degree, then involve an IN DEPTH background check by a state professional licensing agency when applying for a professional license, and then involve an IN DEPTH background check by potential professional employers. Potential professional employers in the educational field, in the medical field, in the financial field, in the legal field etc. have already experienced instances of public 'embarrassment' etc. when it was discovered after the fact that a teacher, nurse, etc. has an 'adult industry' past, which those 'professional' employers do not wish to repeat. Today's news in fact has a story about a Texas school district discovering that they have hired a teacher who was formerly a Playboy Model ... see ... which will probably now result in lots of adverse publicity for the school district, attempts at firing, potential lawsuits etc. which the school district could have avoided if it were possible for them to discover the girl's 'adult industry' background at the time she first applied for a teaching job. As such, girls who will eventually apply / compete for such professional jobs may be at a disadvantage compared to other applicants who do not have an 'adult industry' background. For better or worse, state professional licensing agencies are authorized to set standards for 'professional behavior', standards that work in the 'adult industry' violates even though such 'adult industry' work may be 100% legal.

    How big of a disadvantage could an 'adult industry' background be for a 'professional' job applicant 2-4-6 years down the road ? That's impossible to address accurately. If the economy is such that the unemployment rate for 'professionals' drops to near zero thus future professional employers will find themselves hard pressed to find and hire qualified professionals, then maybe the disadvantage will be minimal. If the economy is such that the unemployment rate for 'professionals' remains at historically high levels thus future professional employers will find themselves with a stack of resume's from qualified professionals to choose from for every available open position, then the disadvantage may be substantial. And, as was discussed in other threads, having one's 'adult industry' work history discovered by a state professional licensing agency cannot prevent the issuance of a professional license. But it could make the difference between a teacher being hired by a suburban school versus an inner city school, between a nurse being hired by a high profile private hospital versus a state prison hospital, between an attorney being hired by a fortune 500 corporation versus a strip club chain, etc. As such, having an 'adult industry' background discovered could have negative real world consequences both in regard to the working conditions of a future professional job, as well as in regard to pay levels / career advancement opportunities of a future professional job.

    Where the situation exists that a dancer or camgirl is considering 'absorbing' several years worth of lost opportunity costs by studying for a college degree ( in lieu of earning as much money as possible by dancing / camming ) leading to eventual 'professional' licensing and 'professional' employment, plus investing tens of thousands of dollars in tuition costs, IMHO it would be irresponsible to 'pretend' that that the possible future discovery of their 'adult industry' work history couldn't have negative consequences that will affect their eventual 'professional' employment opportunities - thus affecting the potential 'payback' she might receive from her huge investment of lost earnings potential, time, and tuition costs !!! Similarly, IMHO it would be irresponsible to 'pretend' that the methodology and tools used to perform IN DEPTH background checks in the past will not be changed to take advantage of available new technologies in the future.

    From that standpoint, emerging facial recognition technology today arguably represents the same sort of potential for change regarding future IN DEPTH background checks as was the case when webcam hosts and strip clubs were forced to start issuing IRS 1099's a few years ago. However, unlike 1099 mandates which could not retroactively recreate a 'paper trail' of previous years' payments from 'adult industry' related businesses, facial recognition technology can be applied to ANY image remaining posted on the internet no matter how long ago that image was originally posted.

    Can I assert that facial recognition technology will actually be used when a dancer or camgirl who is considering enrolling in college this year actually graduates 2-4-6 years from now, applies for a state professional license, and seeks 'professional' employment ? The obvious answer is no. However, the risk that facial recognition technology WILL become a factor over that 2-4-6 year time span is significantly above zero !!!
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    Melonie is, sadly, quite correct in her concerns.

    On the broader picture, a lot of this technology results in "slotting" people and not allowing them to change their public persona. It's disturbing and feels wrong, but one needs to deal with the realities out there. It's as if everyone is a politician nowadays...

    I will say that there are definitely places where people don't care as much about what they find out, even if they do.

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    The signing of a form 4506-T allows a third party ( potential future employer, state professional licensing agency, prospective lender etc. ) to access particular personal tax information. According to , which is an IRS document service provider ...

    - the IRS will provide copies of the signer's 1040 annual tax returns, the signer's W2's ( employee income reports ), the signer's 1099's ( business payment reports ) etc. to the 3rd party

    - the IRS will provide information for the past 4 years to the 3rd party

    Also note that, if the form 4506-T form is not executed with particular date limits being set, the 3rd party can continue to request future year tax information for the signer. This is becoming somewhat of an issue with mortgage lenders ... see In theory state professional licensing agencies could do the same thing, i.e. requiring that the signer / professional license applicant sign an 'open ended' 4506-T which in turn allows them to 'pull' the signer's tax returns, W2's ad 1099's in future years.

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