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    I found this post on the sex worker problems tumblr (sexworkerproblems.tumblr.com) and thought that it was really well done and really interesting and useful for people who suffer from chronic yeast infections. I'm not really good at writing out the procedure so seeing this post and the recent thread about sore vaginas and someone writing about having a yeast infection made me think that this might be worth posting for you all to see:
    Hello everyone! I’m here to talk about something that we don’t like to talk about: yeast infections and bacterial vaginosis! While yeast infections (yi) can happen to anyone on any part of their body, I am going to focus on vaginal yeast infections (and bacterial vaginosis) in this post. I am going to discuss how to treat a yi or bv with boric acid. There are other treatments such as garlic, apple cider vinegar, tea tree oil, and yogurt but boric acid treatment isn’t common knowledge and it is, by far, the most effective treatment that I have encountered.

    I have a medical condition that requires me to take medication. While I am happy that it has my condition under control, one of the medications has a lot of crappy side effects. One of these side effects is that I get yi or bv at the drop of a hat. It’s very annoying and can end up costing me money, as working with a yi or bv is uncomfortable at best, and impossible at worst.

    Until I was about 20 I treated yeast infections using Monistat or similar over the counter products. Eventually I got tired of spending so much money on these medications and, well, they kinda stopped working. I was also pretty grossed out by using them and if you have ever used one I’m sure that you can understand why. Eventually an oral option was available over the counter. Unfortunately, it interferes with a number of medications, including mine, and caused a really bad reaction. Around the time that I became so unimpressed with over the counter medical options, I also started doing research about my vagina and learned a few things. First of all, there are two different things that can go wrong with a vagina leading to a person thinking that they have a yi. It is possible that a person is suffering from bv and not a yi at all! Further, when someone treats a yi with an over the counter medication, it is possible that they will end up creating an environment where bv will thrive. Since bv is usually treated with antibiotics and antibiotics are a trigger for a yi, this then can create an ongoing battle between the two afflictions until it drives a person crazy.

    My miracle cure to yi and bv is boric acid. Boric acid is very bad for you if taken orally. Very bad like it might kill you. However, when used in a vaginal suppository it is simply amazing and will restore the ph balance of a vagina, thereby clearing either, or both, of these problems up. If you are not sure which one you have, you can do this treatment and not have to go through a diagnostic process. This can also be used as a preventative measure if, like me, you will get a yi or bv from taking antibiotics or from having sex (with a new partner, using condoms that you aren’t used to etc. etc.) Aside from being able to clear up both of these problems, the boric acid treatment is incredibly cheap. A container of boric acid is anywhere from 15-30$ and you can buy 100 gelcaps for less than 10$. A single container of boric acid has lasted me more than 20 treatments. I’m sure that it might have lasted longer but I decided to replace my boric acid to prevent contamination at that point.

    The boric acid treatment is very simple. First, you must acquire your boric acid. I found mine on Amazon but you can find it at most health food stores. You will also need to get some gelatin capsules which you can also find at most health food stores. If I can’t find the gelatin capsules or if I am out of them, I will simply open and empty a gel cap filled with vitamins, empty it out, blow into it to get all the vitamin powder out and then use those. Not ideal but will work in a pinch. Now you simply scoop the boric acid powder into the capsules. Fill two up and insert them into the vagina for 10-12 days depending on the severity of the yi / bv. Sometimes I do the treatment for less time, sometimes I do it for the whole time… it really depends on how your body responds to the treatment. I will also do this treatment when I take antibiotics except I only use one gelcap and only for the duration of the anti-biotic use.

    There are some things that you should know about using boric acid. First of all, it gets messy. When the gel cap “melts” and the boric acid comes into contact with your vagina there will be a sudden outpour of liquid. This is not immediate, and depending on how active you are it could take a few hours. When using this method, it is essential that you either use a panty liner, a towel, or thick underwear. If you work during the day, I recommend doing this treatment mid afternoon. If you do the treatment at night, it will “activate” in the morning and while you are going about your day you will suddenly be surprised by the outpouring of liquid. As well, you can rinse your vagina out before you go about your business and no one will be any the wiser.

    Unfortunately, this treatment will not sooth any external symptons of a yi or bv so if you are experiencing a lot of external discomfort I suggest either using the anti-fungal cream that comes along with a Monistat cream (this can be bought individually), or if you don’t want to use any medicated product, natural, unflavored, cultured yogurt is good as well.
    I would like to make it clear that traditional gelcaps are not vegan friendly. There are vegan options though that can be found online or at health food stores - just make sure that you are getting the right ones if this might be a problem for you.

    REMEMBER THAT BORIC ACID IS TOXIC IF TAKEN ORALLY.

    Good luck and have a happy vagina!

    - SW 17

    from here



    I have only done the treatment 3 times but found it very effective all of those times and I highly recommend it for cost value if nothing else. I have also used it once for preventative measures but who knows if it was effective because I might not have gotten a yeast infection either way.

    I don't want this thread to turn into a debate about swp at all and if this should be moved to body business I understand... I just thought that with the recent threads about sore vaginas it would be worth putting here as I think that we suffer from more vaginal issues than most other users on the site.

    Good luck and stay safe and happy vagina!
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    Great post!!! I friend of mine swears by boric acid but I didn't know about it being used this way.

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    I'm allergic to the active ingredient in Monistat, so I can't use it. I sprinkle Slippery Elm powder on the outy bits to take care of the irritation. Works like a charm.
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    I always just eat raw garlic and insert one clove vaginally until it's cleared up. It works for BV as well as YI.

    http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/garlic.asp

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    Default Re: Dealing with yeast infections (especially chronic) without using harsh chemical c

    I remember watching a Sara Jay video about it and going "boric acid" bc Id heard/tried (mostly successfully) everything else: monistat, garlic, yogurt, diet changes, cotton panties, grapeseed extract so thought Id heard it all until her video and this post reminded me of it. She explains it a little - not indepth like this article (thanks for posting) but enough in case videos are a helpful supplement for people going "wha-?"



    these folks are more indepth, esp on how to make the capsules






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    Thanks for posting that
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    Thank you for this post!
    For prevention, I would recommend staying away from cheap toys, sex toy cleaners, and spermicide (nonoxyl 9, found in some condoms and sex toy cleaners, is really irritating and can increase the transmission of STDs). Since I cut out those things, I've only had one incident, and it was after taking antibiotics.

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    Girls, I always get better after eating lots of yogurt with the Lactilobacilus (or however it's spelled!) bacteria in it. Works like a charm! I usually get nasty yeast infection when taking antibiotics, but eating about 500 ml of yogurt a day really helps! Actually, it's good to eat anytime, just to help your body create good bacteria in your stomach and vagina. xx

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    I can second (or third or fourth) boric acid. I'm too lazy to make the pills so I just wash my hands really well, dip my wet fingers into a bag of boric acid, and then insert and "swish" around.

    Do that a few times and you're good to go.

    However, I will say that the nice part about camming is that I can eat garlic when I'm sick and not have to worry about turning anyone off (except myself that is )

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    Quote Originally Posted by BANHammerGoddess View Post
    I can second (or third or fourth) boric acid. I'm too lazy to make the pills so I just wash my hands really well, dip my wet fingers into a bag of boric acid, and then insert and "swish" around.

    Do that a few times and you're good to go.
    I really wanna try this, and I'm also lazy. How do you know how much to use if you're not putting it in capsules? Is it really that hard to find already in capsule form?

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    I have yet to find it in capsule form and it's really not that hard to do it yourself. Like it will take you less than 5 minutes to make the two capsules every night or you can just sit down and make 20 and not have to do it again for a long time.

    Just PLEASE remember to not take them orally!!!
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    When I first read this post I thought that I was still asleep and having fever dreams because I *just* finished writing a brief on alternative ways to treat vaginal infections (chiefly boric acid). I was all, "first I gotta dream about all the shit I'm not doing, then I gotta dream I got up and ate and now I must have fallen back asleep because my paper is contaminating Stripperweb! ...no wait...I'm pretty sure I'm awake right now."

    This is all right on. I must emphasize that boric acid is hella toxic if it gets in contact with your blood stream. Like everyone has said, do NOT eat it! Don't get it in a cut, don't rub your eyes with it on your fingers (that'll burn) and if like, you're getting an outbreak of herpes or just had a cervical biopsy done or something, don't put it in your vag. Keep it out of reach of kids and pets.

    There has only been one study done on the effects of boric acid for vaginal infection treatment during pregnancy. The study found that in, "typical dosage" (14 days of 600mg/night) the amount of boric acid absorbed into the blood stream was too low to harm the fetus and that it's actually safer to take intravaginal boric acid than it is to take "azole" yeast infection medicines ("butoconazole, clotrimazole, miconazole, fluconazole, terconazole") while pregnant.

    This is not to say that azole YI meds aren't safe, the usual dose of those is 150 mg/night, which is perfectly safe. Researchers found, "major malformations" of the fetus when pregnant women were using intravaginal azole medications at doses of over 400 mg/night. ...I would like to know how and why these women were jamming two and a half times the recommended dosage up in there at once. An ex-boyfriend of mine did used to think that if a recipe said to cook for 20 minutes at 250, he could get it done in 10 minutes at 500, so perhaps they were following that logic?

    ANYWAYYYY, morrrbidddd.

    SO! Boric acid is safe. Don't eat it, don't rub it in a cut. It is safe to use when you're pregnant, even safer to use than the medication that doctors would typically prescribe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloDesire View Post
    I really wanna try this, and I'm also lazy. How do you know how much to use if you're not putting it in capsules? Is it really that hard to find already in capsule form?
    I imagine that it would be difficult to find in capsule form because to sell it in capsules that aren't obviously suppositories would imply that it's okay to take by mouth, which it is totally not. Maybe search for, "boric acid suppositories"?


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    Thanks for all of the help! I'm just going to make my own. I think Walmart sells the boric acid powder and the empty capsules shouldn't be hard to find either. If not I'll just order it on Amazon. I just want instant gratification lol.

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    Well ladies I just went out and got everything I needed to try this. I have another yeast infection starting (as I ALWAYS do the week before my period). I got the boric acid at WalMart in the first aid section and I the only place I could find empty capsules was from a local organic market/vegetarian cafe and I got the VCaps. I came home and made all 100 capsules. I will try them tonight and get back to you ladies on how it's working for my chronic issues Thanks for all of the great tips!

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    I have been using the boric acid thing for years, especially when I got into majorly doing sex work. I SWEAR by it. I have not had an infection since, and I am extremely sensitive and always was so that says a LOT. I buy a bottle of boric acid on amazon, '00' veggie empty clear capsules on Amazon, and fill up about 14 at a time. I put 2 in one night every week, and if I am having a busy week or feel irritated, I'll do it nightly for 3 nights.

    I got rid of recurring chronic infections about a year ago by inserting 2 in at night for 2 weeks. When you make the capsules, wear gloves, and wipe down all surfaces that have had contact with the boric acid--ESPECIALLY if you have pets! And MAKE SURE TO NOT TOUCH YOUR EYES AFTERWARD!

    Also, I boric acid bombed my pipes like, every week when I was living in New York City to prevent mice and roaches, so boric acid has a few other benefits, as well.

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    Also, I boric acid bombed my pipes like, every week when I was living in New York City to prevent mice and roaches, so boric acid has a few other benefits, as well.
    I want to know how to use it to bomb pipes!

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    I also use garlic cloves! I put one in an emptied tea bag, seal it, and insert it. I leave it in overnight and I feel muh1ch better by daytime

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    For those who is not comfortable using boric acid, try use Gentian Violet. It stains everything, so use it very carefully. Use rubber gloves while using it! It will stain your fingers!

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    once you have resolved issue .. try taking preventative measures :

    Flaxseed Pills
    Acidophilus
    Azo Yeast
    Probiotic Supplements

    Its very easy to mess up your vag's ph balance but if you can maintain a fair enough diet and maybe taking a small supplement on a regular basis it may prevent future occurences or keep them to a minimum.


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    Boric acid in pipes, easy! For prevention and small issues, just sprinkle a whole bunch down the drain and around the water pipes under the sink. Boric acid actually unclogs pipes too so you don't have to worry about pouring it down the drain.

    Apartments in NY are really old so I literally picked apart the drains and poured everything in...lol...and the "bombing" was more for the rain gutters, I'd wrap a huuuge chunk and put them in the rain gutters, and the brick pavers right outside our house. I doubt it's necessary unless you are living anywhere but like, New York, or Boston, or Philly, or something. Anywhere else and just sprinkling a bunch in the drain openings and water pipes should be awesome!

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    do you do that at night re: boric acid down the drain? or is it okay to do it and then take a shower later on without worrying about it washing away and being a waste?

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    Yes I always have at night because obviously I don't want it touching dishes in the sink. I don't think water would be a problem tho, because it is suppose to go down the drain with the force of water and is obviously going to get wet---just don't let it all wash into the tub

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    So back to vaginas. I'm not being funny, but if boric acid is toxic to consume orally, when is my bf allowed to go down on me? :-I

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    ^I was wondering the exact same thing!

    I insert a probiotic meant for oral consumption daily. It has worked WONDERS for BV.

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