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    Thumbs down Double Standard for Male and Female Strippers...

    So, I don't keep up with the Hollywood scene, all that much, but I think it sucks that so many male actors get to be all open about their previous careers are strippers. Even admired for them, evidenced by movies like "Magic Mike." Brad Pitt, Channing Tatum, Jamie Foxx, even Javier Bardem all jiggled their booties for dollars and no one gives them shit about it. And I'm sure there are more I don't know about. These guys are not D or even B actors. They are like the hottest guys in Hollywood!

    Why can't girl strippers achieve their level of success? The only lady strippers I know who have become famous are Anna Nicole, Courtney Love, and the Octomom... I don't know. I don't pretend like I know a whole lot about this subject because I don't keep up with the celebrity stuff very often. But, I am pretty sure if Natalie Portman or Naomi Watts or Ellen Page bared their boobies for tips, ever, they wouldn't be there they are today, walking those red carpets.

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    Default Re: Double Standard for Male and Female Strippers...

    The reason is for the simple fact most male dancers actually put on a show and don't really do lap dances and all of that (or didn't). Of course another part is the sexism where if a woman is sexual she's a slut but a man is a stud. I don't agree but that's how Hollywood looks at it.

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    Default Re: Double Standard for Male and Female Strippers...

    I think it's because women in general when dealing with male dancers giggle like little school girls when a guy is getting all sexy. I mean how many men go out and say " hmm I'm going to buy this sexy outfit for myself when I go home tonight". "My wife is going to so love this?" =Rare.

    Sure there are a few women that will be pretty direct and even practically try to rape the guy but most women are fine with keeping their distance and enjoying the show.

    Even clubs? How many strip clubs are really out there for male performers? Most states don't even have them and if they do the majority are for male customers. Most male strippers today make their money off of bachelorette parties or parties in general.

    We also live in a patriarchal society where the virgin/whore dichotomy only applies to women.

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    I have only been to 3 male strip club. That does not include the "Ladies Night" one of my clubs sponsored that had dude dancers once a month. It was really tame and the audience did not get crazy--but the event wasn't well promoted and not many women ever showed up. Mostly, just a lot of old dudes came in and were disappointed when they realized there would be no pussy on the stage, that night. But, one of the three strip clubs I went to was a real male strip club for a female audience and it was NUTS. Women were crawling onto the stage and stuffing $ into the guys butt. Like, they shoved their entire hands down the back of his man panties. Women were on each other laps, at the stage, taking photos and generally out of fucking control. My friend bought me a lapdance. I was not into it. It wasn't nude or anything, but the guy practically poked my eye out with his spandex covered erection while my stupid friends slapped his butt. This experience actually made me feel slightly more compassionate for my retard customers... Apparently pretty much everyone loses half their IQ when they enter a strip club. I also have attended 2 strip clubs with my guy friends who play for the pink team. Gay strip clubs are totally out of control. (Or at least the 2 I went to were.) The things I witnessed in those 2 places would make the nastiest extras girl blush.

    But, as far as the male review club for a female audience I went to, I will admit that it was different in many ways, than your average gentlemans club. I don't think there was much, if any OTC action going on at the club I went to. The ladies were def got wild with their friends at the club, but the party ended when the club closed, I think. I also didn't see any women at that club come solo. They all came with groups of friends and most of the fun they had was with each other, not individually with the dancers. So maybe, as far as blatant prostitution, it's far less common in clubs that cater to women. (I KNOW there was some serious OTC action happening at the gay clubs.) Clearly, I have very limited experience with dude strippers, but it really doesn't seem like its all that much "classier" than what we do.

    Anyway, I agree that there are some differences between guy and lady stripclubs. But I still think the double standard is bullshit. Guys can strip and go on to rule the world. There's another thread going here about a girl wondering if she's going to have trouble getting her CNA lisence because of her dancer past! Seriously? The fact that being a female dancer could render her inadequate to clean up poop, is even a concern is so sad. And all the while, Brad and Angie are representing the country in the UN.

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    Default Re: Double Standard for Male and Female Strippers...

    Yep, it's the same in regards to stripping as the double standard is in all areas of life regarding male vs. female sexuality. Males can be sexual - females can't. I've been to male strip clubs, gay male strips clubs, and even had a few male stripper friends, and I agree with the above. In some places, it was more tame than a female strip club and there weren't lapdances - though I definitely disagree with the idea that they "put on a show" more than female strippers. Seemed pretty similar to me. And in other places, the stage dances and lapdances were wild. The female customers were crazy. (I do feel bad for male dancers for this reason. I know females do it to other female dancers as well, but it seems like women are far worse about losing it and partying it up in a strip club. It's like they operate under this idea that a girl can do whatever to whoever and the other party will "like it" so it doesn't matter - ugh. But anyway...) And I've seen way more blatant trolling for OTC activity - by the dancers - in male strip clubs than I ever saw a female dancer pull at a regular strip club.

    Maybe they don't do VIPs or anything, but I agree that shit can get way rowdier in a male club than a female club. Yet, that's considered a "fun, party atmosphere." Whereas, regular strip clubs with female dancers, nowadays, people always talk about them in hushed "ooooh, the strip club" voices, like it's a very seedy and shameful place.

    I think there's a very deeply ingrained image and idea of male vs. female dancers where males are doing it just for fun. "Boys will be boys," you know? I've never met a male dancer that didn't have another job, though that's probably due to the smaller demand than anything - but still, that's what society sees. But female dancers, they do it as a job, for the money. We hear the story of the single mother with the deadbeat baby-daddy stripping to support her children, but how often do you meet a male dancer who talks about how he's doing this as side work to pay child support? Right? So of course, it seems way darker and miserable and pathetic to be a female dancer doing it because we "have to" than to be a young man "living up life" by stripping down.
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    Default Re: Double Standard for Male and Female Strippers...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasmine.Doll View Post
    So, I don't keep up with the Hollywood scene, all that much, but I think it sucks that so many male actors get to be all open about their previous careers are strippers. Even admired for them, evidenced by movies like "Magic Mike." Brad Pitt, Channing Tatum, Jamie Foxx, even Javier Bardem all jiggled their booties for dollars and no one gives them shit about it.

    I'll give you an analogy: A guy who gets laid a million times = stud. A girl that gets laid a million times = slut.

    Guys in any sexy industry are admired. Girls involved in the same industry are derided.

    When Magic Mike came out, I wanted to post about the double standard but I didn't have the patience. It certainly ticked me off that day-time talk shows got some of the actors to come on and bump and grind on the female hosts to cheers and applause. No complaints. Miley Cyrus goes on stage, in the evening, shakes her flat booty... and all Hell breaks loose! It's obscene! Oh my Heavens! *clutch pearls* *faint* etc.

    Movies about female strippers are usually unhappy, dark, cautionary tales. Magic Mike is a fun time... make sure you shout it from the rooftops that "it's based on a true story!!!".

    In these films Guys are viewed as being in control... they can fend for themselves... they're in no danger... what guy wouldn't want dozens of women pawing them all over? Right? Right! High-Fives and pats on the back, woohoo!

    In movies and shows, Girls in these industries are victims just waiting to happen... often forced to resort to a "seedy" career due to unfortunate circumstances... they're doing this just to survive... because what girl would ever willingly choose to be sullied by the sex industry? Right? Right! RIGHT?!?!?!

    WRONG!

    The perceptions regarding gender roles dictate (unfortunately) how men and women with a history in the sex industry are viewed and treated. This is why (with the exception of Azealia Banks, Lady Gaga, Amber Rose, Eve... and the ladies you mentioned) successful women who have stripped in the past keep their history on the DOWN LOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    I'll give you an analogy: A guy who gets laid a million times = stud. A girl that gets laid a million times = slut.
    ^This! Male strippers are seen as “entertainers” in the eyes of the media, they are not seen as “sex workers”; they do not provide sex or sexualised entertainment, apparently and we do . They are labelled “artists” and "performers", much like burlesque dancers.

    Unfortunately, female dancers aren’t funny, aren’t a novelty and accepted. We work for ourselves and are associated with desperation and greed. Where as male strippers often work for agencies and in groups-they are there to entertain people, not use the possibility of sex to "milk" or "rob" them. They do “shows” like Man Power etc in public and are more accessible, where as we work late at night, in clubs and are more “mysterious”. People are ignorant, if they don’t understand something they will hop on the band wagon and agree with society's opinion of us. Most people confuse prostitution and stripping, so that doesn't help our case-a sex worker is a sex worker.

    The thing that annoys me about “Magic Mike” is that nobody seemed to watch the movie I saw. They didn't "see" the character’s inner turmoil, dysfunctional relationships, the penis pumps and also the fact that in one scene they do drugs so that they can “do their job”... everyone just saw the abs!

    Anyhoo, that’s how I feel society sees us and them
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    Most of what is posted is certainly true.

    To play devil's advocate,

    The male actors were not in the positions they are in because they worked as strippers, but in spite of it. Personally I wasn't aware of it at all. Which makes me think how many actresses worked as strippers at some point, and how would I know? Many dancers are pretty damn good actresses, so why not the reverse?

    Actresses pose for Playboy before and after they are famous, people buy them by the pile. When an actor strips it off for a magazine, people pretty much laugh.

    I don't see men who run through women as getting the big thumbs up, and if a man cannot keep relationships together, they are frequently pilloried in the press.

    Taylor Swift for instance, seems to run through men at a pretty good clip, and the only criticism I have seen is for her endless breakup songs.

    Kim Kardashian's showing off of her considerable skills landed her a TV show, Colin Farrell just looks like an ass.

    Just sayin' it aint all doom and gloom

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    Lady Gaga did alright for herself. Eve did well. Debby Harry was very successful in the 1970's and 80's.

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    Miley Cyrus knows what she is doing. She got the reaction she wanted, since everybody is talking about her and hence watching her youtube videos. Smart. Even Floyd Mayweather wants her to walk out with him for his next fight.

    Now I'm sure Marky-Mark would rather leave his past behind him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveJardin View Post
    ^This! Male strippers are seen as “entertainers” in the eyes of the media, they are not seen as “sex workers”; they do not provide sex or sexualised entertainment, apparently and we do . They are labelled “artists” and "performers", much like burlesque dancers.
    THIS 100 %! That's why I do not call myself a sex worker because the public has a very different connotation for that expression than what I do. I'm having a legal good time not the horror show they think we are all living.
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